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rezzan
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden329 Posts
December 22 2012 15:25 GMT
#621
this game isnt playable at all right now.. its overall really boring.. alot of cities are empty, and i mean cities big as new york city,and theres not one single item,.player,zombie heck not even doors or any house you can enter.

every other server with at least 30+ ppl will suck,since ppl play in pair of 5 and camp cities and kill anyone who gets near cuz they buy weapons, also alot of cheaters that fly around and 1 shot you and steal your stuff as soon as you leave the safe zone..

the map is WAY to small for 40+ ppl even if its probably not unlocked yet,its like 1/4 of dayz map. (cherno is bigger than warz almost)

pretty lousy game,free game?`yes.. buy to play it ? NEVER.

Im waiting for dayz standalone..
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AxUU
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland162 Posts
December 22 2012 15:34 GMT
#622
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 16:13:52
December 22 2012 16:12 GMT
#623
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


if you have friends to play with it can be fun but if you play alone I'd advise to stay away for now.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
December 22 2012 19:39 GMT
#624
if you have friends, play dayz.. you'll have a better time watching your 15 bucks flush down the toilet than playing this
Not even death can save you from me.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 22 2012 20:30 GMT
#625
On December 22 2012 23:24 KingJames wrote:
I payed less for this game than a movie ticket and I have had more than 2 hours of enjoyment out of it. The game got boring pretty fast and I moved on. Every time I look in this thread its full of people complaining about the game just move on and play something else if you don't like it. Why come and crap up the thread?

why are you comparing a game to a movie instead of a game to a game. for example, i paid 0$ for dota2 and i got 1.5k hours of entertainment out of it. why cant warz meet numbers like that?

and what is wrong with people discussing a game in a dicussion thread about the game. It's not titled "warz circlejerk", it's for discussion and that's what people who are posting/reading this thread are here for. just because you aren't/stopped playing a game doesn't mean you dont have the right to discuss it rationally.
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Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
December 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#626
As soon as I saw this topic at the top of Sports & Games, I knew I'd have a blast reading it through xD Just missing the popcorn now...

I haven't played War-Z at all, but the last few times a game pulled so much drama on itself, it didn't go too far. Might as well stick with Day-Z.
<3 SC2 <3<3 Dota 2. Steam ID: HellS
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
December 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#627
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


don't even bother. there's a lot of confirmation bias in this thread. go back to like page 25 and you'll see people who bought it who are also defending the right for the developers to scam and lie to people.

honestly the only reason why you should ever buy it at this point is to use it for hacks. the world will be better the faster hackers outright kill the game.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
December 22 2012 23:33 GMT
#628
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


No. Stay far away from this game. It's awful and the developers are terrible.
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Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 23 2012 00:51 GMT
#629
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


Watch streams and decide, this game has a lot of negativity around it but there is a lot of people who really enjoy the game.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
December 23 2012 01:09 GMT
#630
On December 23 2012 09:51 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


Watch streams and decide, this game has a lot of negativity around it but there is a lot of people who really enjoy the game.


I still think the shit the developers are pulling should not be endorsed; for the sake of the future of game development.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
December 23 2012 01:23 GMT
#631
http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2012/12/21/the-war-z-rififi-chez-les-zombies_1809400_651865.html

In other news, WarZ makes Le Monde!

The bad way, of course.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
December 23 2012 01:30 GMT
#632
On December 23 2012 09:51 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


Watch streams and decide, this game has a lot of negativity around it but there is a lot of people who really enjoy the game.


i'm sure i could also find people who enjoy being homeless and shaving with rusty razors too.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:20:36
December 23 2012 04:08 GMT
#633
Edit: Removed, I am wrong.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 23 2012 04:27 GMT
#634
↑ Yeah real classy. Copy-paste bullshit then leave the thread.
o choro é livre
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:20:55
December 23 2012 06:47 GMT
#635
Edit: Removed because I was wrong.
Jason21
Profile Joined December 2012
Belgium2 Posts
December 23 2012 06:56 GMT
#636
i have played the game and given it a fair chance, and what people say is true
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
December 23 2012 07:24 GMT
#637
On December 23 2012 15:47 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 13:27 Al Bundy wrote:
↑ Yeah real classy. Copy-paste bullshit then leave the thread.


It gets frustrating seeing a bunch of people who have never played the game nor given it a fair chance bashing the game and saying things that aren't true. It gets annoying but I guess based on what you said I should just stay here and continue to put my self in situations that are frustrating for me?

No matter how many times I repeat something against a point, some other person repeats the same thing(example sergey made big riggs).


You know what's frustrating? You assuming everyone here hasn't tried or seen someone try the game. You assuming that everyone is just jumping on the bandwagon. Guess what, most of the people here have played or watched the game being played. Guess what else? The Devs are nothing but trash, the company itself is trash. They're nothing but liars and scammers. The game is complete trash. You don't sell something that's in Alpha. You don't sell a "beta access" only and then force people to rebuy the game when you release it. You don't release a game with a list of features that don't exist, and will never exist. I could keep going but you should get the point right now. You're trying to lead a holy crusade supporting this game for god knows what reason, when in reality everyone knows how bad this is. This game should never see the light of day again, nor the money of another person.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 08:40:07
December 23 2012 08:38 GMT
#638
On December 23 2012 13:08 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 10:30 TheDraken wrote:
On December 23 2012 09:51 Kamikiri wrote:
On December 23 2012 00:34 AxUU wrote:
is it worth the money because I've seen people say that it's a hundred times better than dayz and i've seen people say that it's a hundred times worse and I really don't want to waste my money since i'm cheap.


Watch streams and decide, this game has a lot of negativity around it but there is a lot of people who really enjoy the game.


i'm sure i could also find people who enjoy being homeless and shaving with rusty razors too.


You are saying extremely silly things now and not making any sense. Have you tried the game? What do you not like about the GAME.

Someone said this on reddit:

So, because you have 20+ years of gaming experience, you think you know what you're talking about when it comes to game development? You think that's some sort of credibility? The way the hatred is being directed toward War Z IS just the bandwagon or, in other words, a hivemind. It's the popular trend to bash on this game right now when you haven't even played it.
Sure, everyone can have their opinion, but the farce that you and other flamers are putting on this game has potentially ruined the image of this game and confused a lot of potential players like the OP. You can feel like you're honest, and that's your opinion. But you have no facts to back it up. This is not a cash grab or a potential scam or anything close to a scam. They would not be issuing refunds if this was a scam.
I highly recommend you try this game out for yourself and not bother listening to the bullshit people like Switch296 tell you. The popular trend right now is to bash this game just because the rest of the internet is. Yes, Hammerpoint has made some strange decisions and yes their PR with sergey is questionable at times. Mistakes have been made also, sure. But, it doesn't mean that the game is a scam or cash grab.
This whole "lieing" bullshit has been taken entirely out of hand and blown up to such an extreme nit picky proportion, I'm ashamed that these people call themselves gamers. The vast majority of them I can bet have not played the game. It was already established that the steam release was a mistake and premature. Get the fuck over it internet. Play the fucking game or don't. If you don't like it, oh well and that's fine. But don't shit all over everyone else who actually does enjoy the game. It's one thing to have an unbiased opinion on a game. Yes, there are problems with it. But to take it as far as it has is petty and a piss poor excuse to show off a massively none existent epeen.
They've been making vast improvements to the game since the original alpha client and they listen to the community when changes are made. This is a very small team of independent developers and they've done a great job so far. It's as much a learning process for them as it is for us.
So OP, YOU play the game and YOU determine your opinion. I've gotten well over my $15 worth and it's quite an enjoyable game. Not only have I been able to play the game but also play a major role in the direction the game should go through my feedback with the developer along with everyone else testing. Remember that there is a difference between opinions and facts. The debacle behind the WarZ is mostly FEELINGS and OPINIONS portrayed in a way that could pass as believable facts.
For example
facts:
-There is a hacking problem in this game. Right now, it's not uncommon to get shot in the face from an unimaginable amount of distance
-The WarZ is still much in alpha with features still being added into the game over time
-There is little incentive to cooperative PVE play at the moment as they have not included the PVE elements yet.
This is called unbiased critiquing and these are points which I do not like about the game. From a game development standpoint, these need to be worked on.
possible opinions:
-The game is a scam/cash grab (witch hunters, flamers, and bandwagon)
-The hammerpoint devs are copying DayZ (development began before DayZ and for the love of god can we not have more games of the same genre???? i.e. silent hill and resident evil or doom and quake)
-The game is pay to win (learn what pay to win is before shouting it)
These are opinions formed by cliques, witch hunters, and flamers on the internet. These tactics are used to destroy the reputation of a game and/or its developer.There are also legitimate opinions that can be formed as long as they're within reason (that's kind of how game development.. well develops).
TLDR: Try the game out for yourself and don't buy into the bullshit flamers like switch296 and the rest of the internet feeds you.


Edit: I'm leaving this here and closing this thread for awhile because the amount of people here who are uninformed and just trying to bash the game is unreal.



i honestly feel like you just made this (copypasta) post out of a sense of indignation. ok. we get you like the game. but all of the "other people" who don't like the game aren't just a bunch of bandwagon misinformed morons. frankly it has nothing to do with the game. it has to do with the shit attitude and the shit product the developers have pushed out and then lied about repeatedly. it was bad enough when games come out half finished or rushed. the game-after-game-fast-cash trend we've seen is a shitty pattern of behavior that some video game companies have come to adopt, and warZ is the culmination of everything that is fucking wrong with this model.

-the features they claimed were in the game were not in the game.
-they heavily censored any sort of criticism on their forums.
-they took away functionality (spawn time patch) and put in micro-transactions immediately after a jump in sales.. a money grab.
-they had the nerve to change their TOS to say no refunds (illegal) after shit hit the fan because of their misrepresented product.
-they had the nerve to fucking copy so much from dayz and then lie about it being in production before dayz simply because they ripped the engine off an earlier game.
-and then sergey had the nerve to say garbage like "'Over 100 sq km' falls in '100 to 400' right?" and tell us we were to blame for misreading the game info. like what kind of sleazy fuck does he have to be to think that shit is okay? as it is the colorado map isn't even 100 km. so he lied about that shit too.

go ahead and defend him by saying that it was all a big PR mistake or whatever. but honestly if their PR is that fucking bad that they've resorted to lying and near fraudulent behavior, they deserve every disparaging insult thrown at them for being so damn incompetent.

but let's be real. sergey knew what he was doing. the guy is a shady asshole who just wants money and doesn't give a fuck about you. THAT is what we have a problem with.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 10:57:01
December 23 2012 10:56 GMT
#639
On December 23 2012 16:24 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:47 Kamikiri wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:27 Al Bundy wrote:
↑ Yeah real classy. Copy-paste bullshit then leave the thread.


It gets frustrating seeing a bunch of people who have never played the game nor given it a fair chance bashing the game and saying things that aren't true. It gets annoying but I guess based on what you said I should just stay here and continue to put my self in situations that are frustrating for me?

No matter how many times I repeat something against a point, some other person repeats the same thing(example sergey made big riggs).


You know what's frustrating? You assuming everyone here hasn't tried or seen someone try the game. You assuming that everyone is just jumping on the bandwagon. Guess what, most of the people here have played or watched the game being played. Guess what else? The Devs are nothing but trash, the company itself is trash. They're nothing but liars and scammers. The game is complete trash. You don't sell something that's in Alpha. You don't sell a "beta access" only and then force people to rebuy the game when you release it. You don't release a game with a list of features that don't exist, and will never exist. I could keep going but you should get the point right now. You're trying to lead a holy crusade supporting this game for god knows what reason, when in reality everyone knows how bad this is. This game should never see the light of day again, nor the money of another person.


People say they disagree with what Sergey does and thats why they don't like the game nor support the company okay thats fine. Its post like yours that make it frustrating, they never sold solely beta access. Buying the game at any point in time gives you the complete game ALWAYS you never have to repurchase it...This is what I am talking about, people with no idea what they are talking about bashing the game.

As for the people not purchasing the game because of Sergey and what the dev team does, okay so be it that is your decision and I understand that. I play the game because I have FUN. I think the game has a lot of potential and the devs have been updating it a lot, asking the community for feedback and implementing changes they request. If you don't believe me look at their forums and look at the polls they have done. They put in 100 pop servers instead of 70 because the community requested it, they removed 4 hour respawn+pay to respawn because the community requested it. I like that the Dev's do Q&A's often and update the game regularly while asking what we want. These are the reasons I play the game and I think it is great, I enjoyed DayZ in its buggy state and I love this game when it is in a state no where near as bad as DayZ was.

The majority of complaints I see are from people disagreeing with Sergey and the devs which is rightfully so considering some of the massive mistakes they have made. That doesn't make the game terrible though, many of the complaints ive seen people make regarding gameplay(including people in this thread and TB) are things that could just as easily be applied to DayZ but instead DayZ is the holy grail of zombie games. There are people like Infernal dream up here which thinks you purchase alpha/beta access than you will have to repurchase the game which is not true. If you purchase at any point you will ALWAYS have the game. If you dislike the game and don't support it because you disagree with what the devs have done, than so be it I respect that. They aren't as bad as they are always made out to be(like what I said above) but they deserve the flak they are getting for doing incredibly stupid things outside of the game itself.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 11:53:36
December 23 2012 11:52 GMT
#640
What happened to the Metacritic sticky Sergey put up in WarZ General Discussion? I could have sworn I saw it there yesterday.

...on closer examination, looks like a lot of stickies were removed. Don't remember what the rest were.
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