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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
December 18 2012 22:28 GMT
#401


not saying tb is always right, but the video seems quite convincing. also what is up with the stamina system? this is too funny. i think most mcdonalds fatties can run longer and faster than that.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2012 22:58 GMT
#402
Just started playing today...after 14minutes, server shutdown..
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 18 2012 23:39 GMT
#403
Game is not done, can't believe they would think a game that is this buggy and terrible to play was ready for a release.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 01:43:15
December 19 2012 01:36 GMT
#404
[image loading]

Reflections.

Question, I haven't played since early alpha (or whatever the fuck), is TB's video representative of what this game looks like today? If so, what in the fuck are the supporters of this game thinking?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 19 2012 01:41 GMT
#405
That's really sloppy programming.
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 01:56:18
December 19 2012 01:55 GMT
#406
Loved the part where the floating backpack beat him to death before he could spawn in.

And the water part.
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 02:07:23
December 19 2012 02:05 GMT
#407
The game is actually good. And its still in beta, they're improving on the game and still optimizing the game. It's both fun with a group and its fun soloing if you know what you're doing, if you don't know whats going on, youll be complaining how stupid the game is and how you wasted 15$ for a game that's not even full released.
"Want some? Go get some!"
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
December 19 2012 02:08 GMT
#408
What I find alarming is that I don't think it was staged or anything. It was just 40 straight minutes of awful gameplay with several major flaws shown on screen.
I don't get how anyone could side with the devs. The game is NOT in alpha or beta or whatever anymore, and it still looks pretty unplayable.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 02:21:34
December 19 2012 02:20 GMT
#409
On December 19 2012 11:08 tyr wrote:
What I find alarming is that I don't think it was staged or anything. It was just 40 straight minutes of awful gameplay with several major flaws shown on screen.
I don't get how anyone could side with the devs. The game is NOT in alpha or beta or whatever anymore, and it still looks pretty unplayable.

The game is in Beta, and are you kidding me? It's totally playable which is why thousands of people are playing each minute, how else are they supposed to fix bugs? By letting people play the game and reporting the bugs in. The developers have done a lot so far, but need to do so much more before it's ready for a release. If you haven't tried the game out for yourself, don't even go flame about it.
"Want some? Go get some!"
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
December 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#410
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 18 2012 06:29 acidstormy wrote:
WarZ just got released onto Steam today.

This is where i have such a HUGE problem with the way these guys are selling the game. Their words and screen shots are so misleading.

Taken from their description of the game on Steam...

"A Huge Persistent World: The War Z is an open world game. Each world has areas between 100 to 400 square kilometers."
So.... are there more than one world or what? Is it in planning? 100-400 sqkm? does that mean one world is exactly 100 sqkm?

"Up to 100 Players per Game Server"
What????????????????

One of the most important of all imo,
"Single Purchase, Downloadable Client with ability to play the full game without subscriptions or requiring in-game transactions"
There are plenty of people on the WarZ facebook fanpage shit-talking "fanboys" and people disgruntled with their warZ experience. One of the common thing these bashers say is (paraphrasing) "you BOUGHT the alpha and beta, NOT THE GAME, you knew what you were buying". I'll just copy and paste a post from a fan straight from facebook.

"Damon Wolf Always the fucking same with these idiots, because your post shopping experience didn't blow your tiny little mind you moan.
You were told, you would be stress testing a game in a near state of completion.
You were not made to buy early access, you were given an opportunity to help the dev team fix stuff while it's being played, and happen to have bought the full game already.
Why didn't you wait? Wait until all this was dealt with, then buy your copy, and play the full thing?
YOU failed to research, YOU thought you would be getting a head start in the game, YOU are to blame.
The only scam here is that the dev's should point out you may be entering games full of plebs who do not like being shot, and often say hacker like it's a rape alarm!"

I totally disagree with these people, because it is not advertising early access or anything. It advertises the full game, with updating patches.

"No Classes, No Levels, No Caps: Create your own survival campaign, gain experience points and spend it to learn dozen of available skills"

There are definitely no ways to allocate your experience points atm. Sure it COULD be implemented in the future, but it's false advertising.

WarZ Steam
Here it is for yalls to take a good look for yourself. At this point I'm not even bashing the game itself, i'm bashing how shady its makers are.

Edit: I just took a look on reddit, and it seems everyone was already on this before me. At least people are wising up a bit!


I agree that the marketing techniques from this business is shady and unacceptable. You do gain experience from killing zombies though which isn't hard, they'll get around to it.
"Want some? Go get some!"
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
December 19 2012 02:37 GMT
#411
On December 19 2012 11:20 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 11:08 tyr wrote:
What I find alarming is that I don't think it was staged or anything. It was just 40 straight minutes of awful gameplay with several major flaws shown on screen.
I don't get how anyone could side with the devs. The game is NOT in alpha or beta or whatever anymore, and it still looks pretty unplayable.

The game is in Beta, and are you kidding me? It's totally playable which is why thousands of people are playing each minute, how else are they supposed to fix bugs? By letting people play the game and reporting the bugs in. The developers have done a lot so far, but need to do so much more before it's ready for a release. If you haven't tried the game out for yourself, don't even go flame about it.


http://store.steampowered.com/app/226700/

I don't see a word beta or alpha written anywhere. Do you ?
The game is in fact released, this is a fact, and half the features they're advertising for are not in the game. This by itself is unacceptable.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 02:45:56
December 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#412
If this is actually the release version, it appears to be the buggiest, glitchiest, ugliest release I've seen since Dead Island. And the Dead Island people accidentally uploaded their dev alpha, not their final product.

Someone's BSing about the state of the game: the devs, or the fans.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#413
On December 19 2012 11:05 LiLSighKoh wrote:
The game is actually good. And its still in beta, they're improving on the game and still optimizing the game. It's both fun with a group and its fun soloing if you know what you're doing, if you don't know whats going on, youll be complaining how stupid the game is and how you wasted 15$ for a game that's not even full released.


It's not beta, because Steam is selling it.

The only beta game Steam sells is DotA 2.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#414
On December 19 2012 07:28 Corvi wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKAm3nzg6I

not saying tb is always right, but the video seems quite convincing. also what is up with the stamina system? this is too funny. i think most mcdonalds fatties can run longer and faster than that.

So when his character died, he lost the bat that he paid with real money? He lost it forever, like there's no way it will reappear once the character has revived or something? I mean, if there was Perma-death then losing the item would be understandable but here I dont get it.
I don't mean to badmouth the game or anything but I pretty much agree with everything TB said there, including what he said about Valve's stance.
o choro é livre
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
December 19 2012 03:13 GMT
#415
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2012 11:52 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:28 Corvi wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKAm3nzg6I

not saying tb is always right, but the video seems quite convincing. also what is up with the stamina system? this is too funny. i think most mcdonalds fatties can run longer and faster than that.

So when his character died, he lost the bat that he paid with real money? He lost it forever, like there's no way it will reappear once the character has revived or something? I mean, if there was Perma-death then losing the item would be understandable but here I dont get it.
I don't mean to badmouth the game or anything but I pretty much agree with everything TB said there, including what he said about Valve's stance.


That's the consequences of the game. If you die you lose everything, why would you end up retaining it? You can't just have an infinite # of characters that you can just hop to once you die, you have a limit of 5. I don't see what's wrong with dying and losing your stuff, and going on another character and playing on it for an hour and then once that dies you go back on that other character and spawn and start all over.
"Want some? Go get some!"
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 03:47:20
December 19 2012 03:17 GMT
#416
This is crazy! They release a game so messed up as a full game.

Shame on steam allowing them to scam people.

I feel like something needs to be said or done..

Is this the first time steam allows stuff like this to go on?

I wouldnt be as bothered by this if it wasn't on steam but I feel as if steam is giving them a bigger platform for them to deceive people rather than if they just sold it with out them.

People will pick up this game misinformed
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 19 2012 03:26 GMT
#417
This game shouldnt be on steam until it is actually done.

This just feels like a huge money grab by devs marking an alpha as a full game.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 03:33:29
December 19 2012 03:32 GMT
#418
On December 19 2012 12:13 LiLSighKoh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2012 11:52 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:28 Corvi wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKAm3nzg6I

not saying tb is always right, but the video seems quite convincing. also what is up with the stamina system? this is too funny. i think most mcdonalds fatties can run longer and faster than that.

So when his character died, he lost the bat that he paid with real money? He lost it forever, like there's no way it will reappear once the character has revived or something? I mean, if there was Perma-death then losing the item would be understandable but here I dont get it.
I don't mean to badmouth the game or anything but I pretty much agree with everything TB said there, including what he said about Valve's stance.


That's the consequences of the game. If you die you lose everything, why would you end up retaining it? You can't just have an infinite # of characters that you can just hop to once you die, you have a limit of 5. I don't see what's wrong with dying and losing your stuff, and going on another character and playing on it for an hour and then once that dies you go back on that other character and spawn and start all over.


try the part where the devs have a legitimate expectation that people are supposed to want to pay real money for items that will inevitably be taken from you. I've played a lot of warz (I bought in at the cheapest price before all this steam ridiculousness), I am reasonably good at it and yet there is absolutely no way to out-skill your eventual death, much as in dayz. the microtransactional model has zero place in this game, which is his point, not the general impermanency of items.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 19 2012 03:44 GMT
#419
On December 19 2012 12:13 LiLSighKoh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2012 11:52 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:28 Corvi wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKAm3nzg6I

not saying tb is always right, but the video seems quite convincing. also what is up with the stamina system? this is too funny. i think most mcdonalds fatties can run longer and faster than that.

So when his character died, he lost the bat that he paid with real money? He lost it forever, like there's no way it will reappear once the character has revived or something? I mean, if there was Perma-death then losing the item would be understandable but here I dont get it.
I don't mean to badmouth the game or anything but I pretty much agree with everything TB said there, including what he said about Valve's stance.


That's the consequences of the game. If you die you lose everything, why would you end up retaining it? You can't just have an infinite # of characters that you can just hop to once you die, you have a limit of 5. I don't see what's wrong with dying and losing your stuff, and going on another character and playing on it for an hour and then once that dies you go back on that other character and spawn and start all over.

There is nothing wrong with that indeed. If I understand this correctly, if you buy a bat and die, other players can loot it. So if you make a new character you can run to the one that's dead, and salvage the bat.
o choro é livre
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
December 19 2012 03:47 GMT
#420
this game is literally a cash grab, i doubt they will do a single update after their "release"
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