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acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 08:21:46
December 06 2012 08:20 GMT
#361
Fair enough, i can't really argue with what you just said. From last time i played, these problems were apparent, maybe i'll try playing for a few hours when these changes are implemented.

Technically beta*.'

Edit: BTW, what button is it to turn off and on flashlights?? i can't find it on the controls atm
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 07 2012 02:17 GMT
#362
On December 06 2012 17:20 acidstormy wrote:
Fair enough, i can't really argue with what you just said. From last time i played, these problems were apparent, maybe i'll try playing for a few hours when these changes are implemented.

Technically beta*.'

Edit: BTW, what button is it to turn off and on flashlights?? i can't find it on the controls atm


If you click backspace with your flashlight out it hides it (you cant have it out and turn it off) but for weapon attachment flashlights the hotkey is X(i rebinded mine to tilde).

Also as for the changes to the GC shop, I don't like that you can buy high caliber weapon ammunition for GC. I feel that is something that should be bought with the ingame dollars or traded with other players. That being said - with people complaining about it the devs said it was just temporary and they are experimenting with items in the shop. So I am hoping they change it.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 02:38:46
December 07 2012 02:33 GMT
#363
On December 04 2012 10:41 Tiegrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 13:20 Disengaged wrote:
On November 28 2012 21:16 ElectricWizard wrote:
http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/general-discussion-of-things-and-such/82-hey-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz

What a horrible bunch of people the guys behind WarZ are, makes me want to see what Rocket does in standalone all the more.


This guy has a website?

Lolwat.

The amount of bullshit thats just spewing out from him is laughable. This guy tried coming into a very popular wow stream, a guy named Towellie, and he was playing WarZ at the time. This guy was just spouting nonsense after nonsense, bashing the game and kept on repeating the same stuff over and over. Towellie destroyed him. Destroyed him so much in the "WarZ scam" arguement that the guy had to resort to "meet me in real life and ill beat ur ass" and "LOLUMAD?," when it was clear that he was the one that was mad and Towellie just kept his cool.

I wouldn't believe a guy whose a keyboard warrior. Resorting to the "meet me and ill beat ur ass" and couldn't state more "facts" in Towellies channel about the "WarZ scam,". He kept repeating the same "facts" over and over"

If you had read what was posted, it's an ex-WarZ mod not Rhinocrunch. The same thing was posted on Reddit about half a week ago too, and the person was validated as one.

An ex volunteer forum moderator. I was right when I told other people in livestreams and whatnot that he was just pissed off for what had happened to him. As the guy said in that video.

Developers wouldnt tell a volunteer forum moderator shit THAT important and THAT damaging.
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
December 07 2012 07:16 GMT
#364
On December 07 2012 11:17 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 17:20 acidstormy wrote:
Fair enough, i can't really argue with what you just said. From last time i played, these problems were apparent, maybe i'll try playing for a few hours when these changes are implemented.

Technically beta*.'

Edit: BTW, what button is it to turn off and on flashlights?? i can't find it on the controls atm


If you click backspace with your flashlight out it hides it (you cant have it out and turn it off) but for weapon attachment flashlights the hotkey is X(i rebinded mine to tilde).

Also as for the changes to the GC shop, I don't like that you can buy high caliber weapon ammunition for GC. I feel that is something that should be bought with the ingame dollars or traded with other players. That being said - with people complaining about it the devs said it was just temporary and they are experimenting with items in the shop. So I am hoping they change it.



ah, i was using that method before, i think they will be adding an actual hotkey for when the flashlight is equipped
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 10:21:25
December 09 2012 10:16 GMT
#365
WARZ BUYER BEWARE

this isn't about whether they should or shouldn't give out refunds, this is about the way they handled it.

please read entire post before saying things like this "shoulda read TOS" or "it's in alpha what do you expect" or "who cares you bought a shitty game" all of those points are IRRELEVANT if you read my entire post






So, I bought Warz and after numerous problems and even being unable to play for large amounts of time, I e-mailed the company hoping to maybe get a refund, if i don't oh well I bought a shitty game, it happens. I sent in a ticket, and they responded saying to think it over, the game is still in development and if after giving it some thought I still wanted a refund they would grant one.

Okay cool right, seems pretty fair, after a few days of the same BS problems I replied to them again saying I thought it over and i would like a refund. About a day later they send a reply quoting the EULA saying that no refunds on the product are eligible. Now if they had said this from the get go fine, but the EULA hadn't changed at all between me sending in the ticket and me finalizing my refund request.

To me that is an incredibly disgusting thing to do, try to get me to stay with the game on good terms, and when that fails, refuse to refund me.

Like I said I don't care i wasted money on a terrible game, I care how unprofessional and scummy the company acted, anyways here are the back and forth e-mails if any one is interested.



scott lago
Dec 03 08:10 am (YEKT)

Hey guys,

I've been trying to play your game but with constant server issues, updater problems, and general ability to even get into the game I would really love it if you could refund me the game and just delete my account. I have no desire to play as when I try there is some problem preventing me from doing so, and even when i get into the game there are so many bug issues and lag problems that make it unenjoyable for me. I may be willing to purchase it in the future if all the bugs are sorted, but me paying extra money for early access that didn't work, having to use third party to software to run the game, the updater not working, I really am fed up and done with the game at the moment, you really shouldn't sell a product that doesn't work at all, and if you decide to anyways I should hope you give out refunds, if you could give me a refund that would be very much appreciated.

Thanks, Scott

Viva (Xsolla)
Dec 04 06:20 am (YEKT)

Hello,

First think it over:
You were aware that what you bought was not a final version and not even beta-version and thus had numerous drawbacks.
You bought the full version of the game and on sale.
You got the access to the start of the game and can watch it develop and expand.
Every day there is twice as less bugs and crushes.
The game added several servers so you can play with no wait if you press «Quick Join»


So we advise you to stay in the game at least untill the Beta starts so you will not have to buy it again for the full price. If you still want a refund by the said date we will return the money.

scott lago
Dec 06 09:09 am (YEKT)

yeah I have thought it over, I do want a refund, so if you could do that it would be great.

thanks, Scott

Viva (Xsolla)
Dec 06 01:13 pm (YEKT)

Hello!

Subject to the terms of the War Z Terms of Service (the “TOS”) and the End User License Agreement (the “EULA”), governing your purchases on War Z website www.thewarz.com and affiliated sites (the "Websites"), ALL PAYMENTS ARE FINAL, THERE ARE NO REFUNDS OR RETURNS FOR PRODUCTS OR SERVICES PURCHASED on the Websites except, in War Z’s sole and absolute discretion or where required by law. War Z reserves the right to terminate your account and to prevent your use of any and all services if your account is used to engage in illegal activity or to violate the TOS or EULA. http://www.thewarz.com/tos.html So there is no way to make a refund.

We apologize for inconveniences.


I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of... ah forget it
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
December 09 2012 10:56 GMT
#366
They are pretty shady. I don't agree with how they responded to you that you were "aware that what you bought was not a final version and not even beta-version and thus had numerous drawbacks." No where on their website says this game is under development and you are buying in on a non-refundable early access. They've got SOME information under their FAQ which is totally bleak. They speak of closed beta and registration for it, and I would assume it is free since its only a small group of people being accepted. However, at the bottom of each page on their website, I can actually BUY THE WHOLE GAME?!?!? Inconsistent.

The number of inconsistencies with their ability to follow through on their promises really hurt their image so much. In my eyes, they have gone way past acceptable unethical practice (which is why i follow war-z so closely!). Consumers who are generally business minded (people who believe quotas & statements carry weight) are a small minority of buyers in my opinion. They've gotten the majority of their sales on impulses (Zombies, DayZ appeal, MMO appeal, etc.), once again, my opinion.

Unfortunate for your situation. D:
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#367
Yup that's fucked up. Should have told you off the bat there were no refunds in the email response (even if it is in the tos)

Don't some countries require a refund to be available? How long has it been since you bought it? Zork got a refund.
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acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
December 09 2012 12:34 GMT
#368
I do remember that whole fiasco with S.Korea and diablo 3 =x
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#369
That's pretty fucked up what they did. I would complain majorly to them about it, if you haven't already.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13305 Posts
December 09 2012 13:35 GMT
#370
I love how with any email douchebaggery like that they end it with a "We apologize for inconveniences."

As in they apologise for the inconvenience of saying one thing and doing another?

Pretty poor form. You should take it to some major gaming sites that are running coverage of the game. Once they get a whiff of the bad press from what has happened to you, they'll backflip (again).
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
December 09 2012 13:44 GMT
#371
Scam. Avoid at all costs. Should be fairly obvious considering everything about it screams Day Z cash grab.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 09 2012 14:13 GMT
#372
Scam or not, the game was moderately fun until they merged servers. Now, they are so crowded that you can't walk 10 feet without getting murdered immediately. They said they would implement a kind of questing system, skill trees, and other distractions, but so far it's just a giant PvP murderfest. Sigh.....
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
December 09 2012 18:54 GMT
#373
On December 09 2012 23:13 ayaz2810 wrote:
Scam or not, the game was moderately fun until they merged servers. Now, they are so crowded that you can't walk 10 feet without getting murdered immediately. They said they would implement a kind of questing system, skill trees, and other distractions, but so far it's just a giant PvP murderfest. Sigh.....

sounds like a fun place for hackers
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
December 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#374
I just got shot 3 times. Time to go do something else.
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 10 2012 14:38 GMT
#375
it's a fun game but the hackers are killing the game now that the servers merged and your chances to meet a hacker are much bigger now.

Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 11 2012 00:11 GMT
#376
On December 10 2012 23:38 Skilledblob wrote:
it's a fun game but the hackers are killing the game now that the servers merged and your chances to meet a hacker are much bigger now.



Yeah, they said on the second week of December they will have an anti-cheat coming out that will stop hackers for the long-term but we will have to see.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
December 12 2012 12:35 GMT
#377
On December 06 2012 04:06 Risen wrote:
If it's not one thing it's another. People like Zorkmid won't be happy until they find something that sticks. The forum post turned out to be bullshit so it's onto another thing. Some people just want to hold onto their opinions no matter what... it happens.

Why do you even come in this thread Zork? Just stick to DayZ. I personally can't wait for the standalone, I know you can't wait for it, just stay away from here. You've already said in this thread you didn't like it and what you didn't like about it. I disagreed with your post and a lot has changed since you got your refund as the game was in ALPHA, but the point is everyone knows you don't like it.


I need to make sure that TLers on the fence don't buy this game. Apparently they won't be able to get their refund anymore.

Also, I'll visit whatever threads I like.
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
December 12 2012 13:17 GMT
#378
On December 10 2012 23:38 Skilledblob wrote:
it's a fun game but the hackers are killing the game now that the servers merged and your chances to meet a hacker are much bigger now.



so even war z is Hacker infested? god damnit :<
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 12 2012 14:07 GMT
#379
On December 12 2012 22:17 Daumen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 23:38 Skilledblob wrote:
it's a fun game but the hackers are killing the game now that the servers merged and your chances to meet a hacker are much bigger now.



so even war z is Hacker infested? god damnit :<


they seem to be working on anti cheat solutions but it takes a while :/
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 12 2012 23:49 GMT
#380
On December 12 2012 23:07 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 22:17 Daumen wrote:
On December 10 2012 23:38 Skilledblob wrote:
it's a fun game but the hackers are killing the game now that the servers merged and your chances to meet a hacker are much bigger now.



so even war z is Hacker infested? god damnit :<


they seem to be working on anti cheat solutions but it takes a while :/


Second to third week of December is when the anti-cheat is suppose to be implemented. Heres to hoping it works because this is such a fun game besides the hackers.
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