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On September 25 2013 10:52 Eben wrote:
This new patch is... AMAZING! wooooo!
Impressive patch list. In all my years of gaming I don't know if I've ever seen a more comprehensive effort- especially considering the game hasn't been out long.
Unfortunately, it sounds like they might have broken a thing or two judging by the forum (force-vassalization and switching sides in war). Was excited to start a new game tonight, but might wait and see if a hotfix comes in tomorrow.
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I'm most impressed with the attention to AI behavior. Seems to me like they added thousands of lines of AI coding to make this happen. A more intellegent AI is better for the immersion, and provides a better challenge for the player in situations that would previously be exploitable.
Its also impressive that they managed to do this considering the strain AI complexety puts on a game like EU4. With 50+ countries in the game at all times, It really requires some work to let AI decisions be smooth and fast for all of them without being preditable and exploitable.
Great to see Paradox is in touch with what problem the game has, and are smart enough to try to figure out ways to solve those problems intellegently.
The fact that they are making the game more accesible for modders is also a big plus.
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Hotfix is live (another coming next week sounds like)!
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?724677-Hotfix-version-1.2.1
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Patchnotes 1.2.1
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- Can no longer see destination of others shattered retreat using the low morale icon
- Fixed issue with changing side in the war when making someone your vassal
- Fixed chat where player would not show up i chat
- Warexhaustion now gives revoltrisk again
- Border friction is now entierly dependant on how much basetax you border them with
- Unions now end when the subjects dislikes the overlord, as the tooltip says
- Defender of tha faith now gives normal deus vult cb as well
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- Border friction is now entierly dependant on how much basetax you border them with
FUCK YEAH
You no longer will have -200 border friction if you are their only border!
- Defender of tha faith now gives normal deus vult cb as well
Makes the title worthwhile if you don't have the religious ideas, neat.
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Great changes overall, fixes some of the few (Seriously what a great game) frustrations I had.
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I can't help but feel kinda bored whilst playing this, there just doesn't seem to be much to do. Most of my games just end up the same with the first 50-100 years be pretty interesting and then I can just start dominating stuff if I choose to.
I'll either stop playing or play some Victoria II...at least that feels like interesting things are happening as the years pass.
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I have a quick question. So I have the possibility to take over Bohemia, who is currently the Emperor of the HRE, with a personal union. Erbkaisertum is also alreay enacted. Now if I take them over, do I (playing as England, if that's relevant) become the Emperor or do they just hold elections again and exclude Bohemia this time?
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I think in EU3 they would hold new elections, since a minor in a Personal Union can't be the Emperor. It's also very logical, considering that theoretically not Bohemia is the Kaiser, but their King, which you would replace in a Personal Union, but you would not become him.
Though i could be wrong here, and it could also work differently in EU4. Being outside of the Empire is usually not problem when becoming Emperor, except for the Malus you get in the election evaluation.
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Anyone know if it's possible to go past 1821 without the game fucking up/crashing? And if so, how?
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1821 is the end date lol. Thats when the game ends. Ill post my Majapahit game soon  , formed malaya and went crasy.
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You can go past that date with mods. If you really want to but without any further improvements in tech and such it would be rather dull.
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For eu3 there are several great mods that extends the period all the way to like 1933 if I remember correctly. Adds air units and stuff, it was really good. I hope the modding community is working hard on eu4.
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I am playing a game as Austria at the moment and it's kinda obscene what kind of missions austria gets.
improve relations with an elector +1 stab, +10 legitimacy, +20 diplo
they get this all the time.
also form a union with Hungary, Bohemia, Burgundy. The game doesnt even care if those countries have someone from your dynasty as a ruler the game just throws a free personal union at you.
So yea as I see it it is harder now to get all the HRE events then it was in EU3 but in exchange austria is just more ridiculous than it was in the last game.
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This game's on sale. I bought it. It's fun.
Portugal vs. Morocco takes such a long time to get cores :0
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They have "Berber Tradition" iirc. Increasing the time/cost of coring by 200%. n_n
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On November 23 2013 23:06 dismiss wrote:
They have "Berber Tradition" iirc. Increasing the time/cost of coring by 200%. n_n
Just tried a quick game as Morocco with a friend playing Granada. It is impossible to do anything, Castile and Portugal kill you within the first 5 years.
I could MAYBE see it being fun if Algiers and Tunisia were also human players and helped against Iberia, but it'd still be tough.
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On November 24 2013 15:15 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 23:06 dismiss wrote:
They have "Berber Tradition" iirc. Increasing the time/cost of coring by 200%. n_n Just tried a quick game as Morocco with a friend playing Granada. It is impossible to do anything, Castile and Portugal kill you within the first 5 years. I could MAYBE see it being fun if Algiers and Tunisia were also human players and helped against Iberia, but it'd still be tough.
I'm not saying that it's hard to kill Morocco and Granada. They are both screwed right from the start, and relatively easy opponents. But even once you do kill Morocco, any of their provinces with "Berber" Tradition" are extremely expensive to core. Of course, you don't want to leave Morocco there, as it will just try to get Ceuta back, but if you do conquer and annex them you are faced with spending thousands of points on coring or facing countless revolts. Their provinces also do not convert easily.
Really, if you're playing Portugal only Sus and Tangiers are probably worth it, but even then you're looking at 500 points to core. However, I haven't tried vassalizing and then annexing Morocco, but it would be hard to get opinion high enough to annex as far as I can tell.
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On November 25 2013 03:51 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 15:15 Millitron wrote:On November 23 2013 23:06 dismiss wrote:
They have "Berber Tradition" iirc. Increasing the time/cost of coring by 200%. n_n Just tried a quick game as Morocco with a friend playing Granada. It is impossible to do anything, Castile and Portugal kill you within the first 5 years. I could MAYBE see it being fun if Algiers and Tunisia were also human players and helped against Iberia, but it'd still be tough. I'm not saying that it's hard to kill Morocco and Granada. They are both screwed right from the start, and relatively easy opponents. But even once you do kill Morocco, any of their provinces with "Berber" Tradition" are extremely expensive to core. Of course, you don't want to leave Morocco there, as it will just try to get Ceuta back, but if you do conquer and annex them you are faced with spending thousands of points on coring or facing countless revolts. Their provinces also do not convert easily. Really, if you're playing Portugal only Sus and Tangiers are probably worth it, but even then you're looking at 500 points to core. However, I haven't tried vassalizing and then annexing Morocco, but it would be hard to get opinion high enough to annex as far as I can tell.
To work around that vassalize them. They are too big at the start but after taking a few provinces its possible. Then annex them diplomaticly and you automaticly get cores on all their land.
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is this game good now?
CK2 is currently messed up too much -.-
(release version was not that enjoyable imo)
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Ck2 changes I can see people not likeing.
meiou and taxes is good or at least the national revival mods like aeiou das kaisertum and third rome.
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