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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
July 26 2015 14:15 GMT
#2861
I know that I cant sperate peace coalition members but poland isnt supposed to be part of the coalition. Like I said I declared on the "Austria coalition" when I still had a truce with Poland so they can't be part of it.

Poland joined later because they allied austria. So in my book they should count as a normal ally who is fighting in the coalition war.
Respect my authoritah!!
Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-26 15:36:51
July 26 2015 15:35 GMT
#2862
Year 1566, England (Me) has a PU with France since 1447 ist already integrating Neaples and didnt allow Portugal nor Spain more then 1 colonial Province due to abusing the BBB and I took a good chunk of their homeland away.
I domiate the overseas like a madman and just got another 5/5/4 Ruler.

Everything goes perfect in this Ironman game and then ..... My fucking game crashes with an runtime error during the autosave at the end of the month, i then reload the game and everything seemd fine but everytime i try to pass the month i get the same error over and over again so im stuck .... im so fucking mad right now

i swear im gonna delete this fucking bullshit game.. but i wont...

Rant over =)
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6271 Posts
July 26 2015 17:18 GMT
#2863
On July 26 2015 23:15 TerransHill wrote:
I know that I cant sperate peace coalition members but poland isnt supposed to be part of the coalition. Like I said I declared on the "Austria coalition" when I still had a truce with Poland so they can't be part of it.

Poland joined later because they allied austria. So in my book they should count as a normal ally who is fighting in the coalition war.

Did Poland join the coalition after the thruce ran out? Maybe they joined the coalition against you and after that got called into the war.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
July 26 2015 18:11 GMT
#2864
On July 27 2015 02:18 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 23:15 TerransHill wrote:
I know that I cant sperate peace coalition members but poland isnt supposed to be part of the coalition. Like I said I declared on the "Austria coalition" when I still had a truce with Poland so they can't be part of it.

Poland joined later because they allied austria. So in my book they should count as a normal ally who is fighting in the coalition war.

Did Poland join the coalition after the thruce ran out? Maybe they joined the coalition against you and after that got called into the war.


yes they did join after the truce but I thought u can't join an ongoing coalition war? The other nations also didnt join after my truce with them ran out. Just Poland, after they allied Austria, so I thought they were being called in as a normal ally...
Respect my authoritah!!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 26 2015 20:52 GMT
#2865
[image loading]

Currently control all of Turkey. Since my way is blocked by boats (I got one stack defending my vassal Ukraine, and Brandenburg is also helping out with quality troops), I think I'll finally use the 419 strategy and wait for their war exhaustion to go to 20 before taking a strip of provinces that cuts off all their Asian (real Asian this time, not the Levant like I did before) provinces from Constantinople.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
July 30 2015 07:34 GMT
#2866
My iron man game just turned into a non iron man one

Is it a known bug?
Survival
Profile Joined July 2015
Netherlands6 Posts
July 30 2015 08:40 GMT
#2867
On July 30 2015 16:34 pPingu wrote:
My iron man game just turned into a non iron man one

Is it a known bug?



Happened to me aswell when I played poland, I can't play anymore ironman games because the game tells me I "need to be logged on to steam in order to play ironman." Which doesn't make any sense because when i play EU4 I am always logged on to steam.
Must be a bug that arose since last patch I guess.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 09:36:46
July 30 2015 09:12 GMT
#2868
Which third/foruth Idea Groups would you take in an MP game as (Sunni)-Ottomans?

So far i have Admin and Quantity.

Toughts for Idea 3:
Quality vs Offensive:

Quality:
Pros: +10% Combat for all Units, 5% Disc at the End. Nice Policies with Econ/Admin/Religious.
Cons: 3 useless Naval Pointsinks.

Offensive:
Pros: Better Generals (but i'm near 100 AT basically allways anyway, same with prestige), +5% Disciplin, +20% Forcelimit.
Cons: 2-3 rather useless Pointsinks (siege isn't really good is it?), Policies are a bit lacking.

Toughts on 4th Idea:
Econ vs Religious:
Both have perks but atm i think Econ is a bit better because Money is allways good and i have no issues with religious unity/missionary strenght.

The policies are also both decent:
Religous offers: 2.5% Disc., 20% Morale, 5% Moralerecovery (with Qual/Quantity, nothing of worth together with offensive)

Econ offers: 5% Disc., +33% Landforcelimit (with Qual/Quantity) or 10% Artillery Combat and +33% Forcelimit with Offense/Quantity.

Honorable Mentions:
Influence: Nice Ideas (but nothing outstanding, Players tend to not care about AE reduction and Diprep ), neat Policies (but nothing outstanding)... Main draw is that you can fill it with Dippoints and it would help with Annexing Vassals.

Innovative --> -25 Mercenary Cost, +1 Leader witheout Upkeep, Cheaper Advisors AND +20% infantry combat policy.


Atm. i'm trending clearly towards Quality but i'm really unsure about the 4th (admin) Idea, well i won't go Innovative i guess but the other 3 seem to be decent picks...
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
July 30 2015 09:40 GMT
#2869
In a multiplayer game definatly Innovative , in the current patch its hard to get a decent leaderpool going because the war college and the admiralty are gone. Also the +20% infantry combat ability is your only hope to beat commonwealths or russias troops qualitywise. (your troops will never be good enough to fight on an equal basis against france or prussia , gotta overwhelm those with numbers)
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
July 30 2015 09:48 GMT
#2870
Is 20% Infantry Combat better than the Disciplin policies of the others?
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 10:02:51
July 30 2015 09:54 GMT
#2871
Depends , combat ability increases the damage your troops do , morale decreases the damage you take , and discipline counts for both. if the majority of your army is infantry , +20 Infantry combat ability beats out +5 discipline

from most to least important id rank the modifiers like this: military tactics <- army tradition <- discipline <- morale/combat ability modifiers <- moral recovery speed
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
July 30 2015 10:01 GMT
#2872
Yeah, but by that point the army will loke like 50% Inf, 40% Artillerie and a few Horseys for Flanking? Wouldn't the Artellery do the acutal dmg here and not the Infantry which is mainly a meatshield?
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
July 30 2015 10:04 GMT
#2873
base damage is determined by the number of pins the units have , the special thing about artillery is that it can fire from the second row (and adds half its defensive value)
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 30 2015 10:11 GMT
#2874
On July 30 2015 16:34 pPingu wrote:
My iron man game just turned into a non iron man one

Is it a known bug?

I had this happen to me when I saved it locally instead of using cloud.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6271 Posts
July 30 2015 10:43 GMT
#2875
On July 30 2015 18:54 Irratonalys wrote:
Depends , combat ability increases the damage your troops do , morale decreases the damage you take , and discipline counts for both. if the majority of your army is infantry , +20 Infantry combat ability beats out +5 discipline

from most to least important id rank the modifiers like this: military tactics <- army tradition <- discipline <- morale/combat ability modifiers <- moral recovery speed

Military tactics is what decreases damage taken. I think morale only matters for how long you can stay in the fight and you get stack wiped when your morale drops to 0 before both a shock and fire phase have completed.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 11:31:24
July 30 2015 11:14 GMT
#2876
I read up on the Wiki (but its 1.10... so... no idea if its still true).

Discipline = Does everything, more dmg, less Casaulties (also for Moral).
Combat Ability = More dmg (also for Moral).
Moral = just more Moral = You stay longer in a fight.

So Discipline reigns supreme 1% Discipline = (1% combat ability + 1% tactics).

Tactics reduces dmg taken but is a diffrent beast (no ideas for it, only flat increases from Tech).
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
July 30 2015 12:13 GMT
#2877
[image loading]

By far the best regency council I ever got
annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 16:25:02
July 30 2015 14:26 GMT
#2878
On July 30 2015 18:54 Irratonalys wrote:
Depends , combat ability increases the damage your troops do , morale decreases the damage you take , and discipline counts for both. if the majority of your army is infantry , +20 Infantry combat ability beats out +5 discipline

from most to least important id rank the modifiers like this: military tactics <- army tradition <- discipline <- morale/combat ability modifiers <- moral recovery speed

discipline is indeed a modifier on damage taken(which is divided by your discipline) and dished out(multiplied by your discipline)(both normal and morale),
but morale increases your total morale and morale damage(and does not affect normal damage), combat ability increases damage done(both morale and normal)
RAIN!!!, MMA!!,Innovation!!,Parting!!
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 30 2015 18:52 GMT
#2879
In general, 10% morale is superior to 5% discipline early game as far as winning battles is concerned.

Morale damage is multiplied by max morale so morale bonuses are essentially double counted.
?
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-02 13:20:58
August 02 2015 13:18 GMT
#2880
[image loading]

[image loading]

Just finished my bugged iron man game as brandenburg

I got france, naples and genoa in PU, lost some time and couldnt get as much of russia and ottoman as I wanted, didnt have the time to finish the HRE either but close

[image loading]

Oh yeah and the final score screen
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