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GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
November 07 2013 00:23 GMT
#761
On November 06 2013 09:36 Haedley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 09:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
anyone got this on 360? is it a total hunk of shit on there and i should wait for xbo?


Buy it on PC. Console Versions are all bad, especially XBoner.


Everything I've seen of the PS4 version looks very good.
renoB
Profile Joined June 2012
United States170 Posts
November 07 2013 00:45 GMT
#762
Anyone else kind of upset that there isn't Rush Large maps? Those were my favorite. I love the bigger maps, but conquest just doesn't do it for me... to unrealistic feeling.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 07 2013 01:27 GMT
#763
what pisses me off is when you are playing and the game crashes (whether it be your fault or BF4's fault... usually is the games fault) it doesn't save your points that you had in the game. Have 10k points, too bad fuck you. have 4k points and promoted to lvl 10, too bad back to lvl 9.. Really like the game but that part bugs me
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 01:58:45
November 07 2013 01:34 GMT
#764
On November 07 2013 02:57 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 09:07 Aylear wrote:
On November 06 2013 08:26 Shelke14 wrote:
alright guys, talk me into it or talk me away from it.. I liked BF3, was a huge fan of BC 2. Whats the final verdict. should I?

EDIT: too late bought it, you guys better play with me


Haha, that didn't take long. I will say that I liked Bad Company 2 a lot, and I think this one is generally better in most ways except for the netcode. You should have some fun with it.

This game has an even worse netcode than Bad Company 2?


It's getting there. It is doubly noticeable when the servers are as laggy as they are now, but yes -- the netcode is starting to wear on me. Mutual kills, kills from behind cover, kills by people running around corners before you even see their model, getting the drop on someone from the side and still dying, etc. There was a period where it felt pretty good; a few non-lagged 48-player servers made it seem like it was improved from BF3, but I'm slowly losing faith in this position.

I still love this game though so I'm completely the wrong person to ask if people should get it.

Edit: When I defend the netcode it is because of posts like this. It's long but you should read it. A very shallow tl;dr would be to say that while the netcode is hard-coded and it is unlikely to be fixed, the server and client bugs that cause the problems we are seeing most likely will. It's been a broken launch in general, and it's slowly being fixed. We'll never see a perfect Battlefield experience because one just is literally not possible, so I refer back to one of my previous points: It's online. It lags. Suck it up and deal with it.
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 07 2013 08:30 GMT
#765
On November 07 2013 10:27 Shelke14 wrote:
what pisses me off is when you are playing and the game crashes (whether it be your fault or BF4's fault... usually is the games fault) it doesn't save your points that you had in the game. Have 10k points, too bad fuck you. have 4k points and promoted to lvl 10, too bad back to lvl 9.. Really like the game but that part bugs me


I think usually you keep the points as long as you dont reconnect to the server before the map ends.

So if you get DC 10 mins into the map, either join a new server, or wait for that map to end before re-joining.

Thats what used to happen in BF3 (and I think even BC2)
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 07 2013 09:00 GMT
#766
I find infantry only maps, for now, to be the most appealing while I unlock some key important stuff.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
November 07 2013 11:31 GMT
#767
On November 07 2013 10:27 Shelke14 wrote:
what pisses me off is when you are playing and the game crashes (whether it be your fault or BF4's fault... usually is the games fault) it doesn't save your points that you had in the game. Have 10k points, too bad fuck you. have 4k points and promoted to lvl 10, too bad back to lvl 9.. Really like the game but that part bugs me

You are wrong. The only instance in which you lose all your points is when the server crashes. Right now it's a rare occurrence but in first few days it was almost every game. As I've experienced it, people just run around in place and everything freezes.If you crash it's very simplw, don't reconnect to that server, at the end of the map server will send battlereport with all your stats, battlelog will calculate your rewards/medals and all is fine and dandy. Just go ahead and play on a different server, yes you will lose your unlocks/rewards (not battle packs tho, they are available the second you get them) but only for a brief time till the battlereport is sent.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
November 07 2013 13:13 GMT
#768
Confirming above to be correct.

It's mostly annoying if you're playing with friends and it crashes midround in a match with a lot of tickets. You either have to go somewhere else where your friends aren't playing, or wait around for 20 minutes for the round to end.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 19:59:44
November 07 2013 19:49 GMT
#769
So technically I'm not wrong jochan because I was reconnecting to the servers to keep playing. I didn't know if you went to another one it would keep the stats. Now I know so I won't reconnect that's all. It is still considered losing all the points when reconnecting to the same server. Hence the stats and points disappear.

Edit: been putting a lot of hours into hardcore team death match. Seems to be good for raising my k:d ratio. I'm so bad at flying, all I do is die in conquest when I go for a plane
Shigure
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States215 Posts
November 07 2013 20:21 GMT
#770
Isnt there a new test range now with all vehicles spawned so you can train in singleplayer and get used to the vehicles?
Iam the mod in KawaiiRice's stream, banning you
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
November 07 2013 20:25 GMT
#771
Yes.

Thing is that to learn to dogfight properly requires you to have someone to fly against.

Learn how to keep your speed at the optimal turning speed when circle jerking around.
Learn how to scissor, barrel roll etc. and do manoeuvres like these consistently.

If you can learn things like that, you'll outfly the majority of random pubbie pilots.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 07 2013 20:29 GMT
#772
I'll have to check that out. Right now my main strat is to sneak behind the enemy and cap points. Kill anyone who tries to re-take the points or if a tank comes then C4 it. For some reason kids in those tanks think they can just sit in the center of a town and not worry about anything other than other vehicles.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
November 07 2013 21:41 GMT
#773
I have no experience in flying planes, even since BF2. I can't even get the proper orientation for hitting targets, it just seems that I'm flying in circles with no objectives.

Decent at everything else, but those jet objectives are going to be the bane of me.

That reminds me, does the F-35 still hover in BF4? Maybe I can get jet points by hovering and capturing points.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 07 2013 22:51 GMT
#774
I'll be playing in a bit if anyone wants to squad up
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 08 2013 09:47 GMT
#775
Carbines are so OP. The ACW-R has like no real recoil at all
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
November 08 2013 15:34 GMT
#776
I can't fly for shit either. And good pilots piss me off like nothing else, apart from maybe the anti-air tanks.

What a fuckin stupid concept that is. Sit afk and hold your fire button towards the sky. I mean watching grass grow requires more skill than that shit.

Anyway, how do you fly? You use arrow keys and WASD or mouse or what? I feel like I can't turn fast enough with mouse, but if I use arrow keys then I can't aim. And in any case it goes way too fast, but that might be because I never use the brakes.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
November 08 2013 16:15 GMT
#777
Use wasd and mouse combined.
Bind pitch up to space and unbind fire from space.

This way you turn and then hold space to go in circles, and now you just gotta keep your course, keep account on locks/ECM, ammo, enemy air asset positions and turnspeed.

If you don't use brakes you're not going to ever outfly anyone. Max turning speed is about 305-315, possibly a bit wider in this game I believe people have been saying, but to keep it within that in a prolonged turn you have to use the brake. This not to mention that brakes are very useful when you're strafing ground targets or choppers and essential for stuff like scissoring.

The worst thing is that the fighter jets just do no damage at all with their cannon. It's a fucking peashooter even against enemy jets. If you're inexperienced with staying on the tail of someone they will literally get away from you for long enough to passively regen the damage you deal back up again. Meanwhile Heatseekers are just incredibly frustrating and amazingly uninteresting, while also teaching you nothing about flying properly at all.
Cheps
Profile Joined August 2010
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 17:07:59
November 08 2013 16:50 GMT
#778
Fun game so far.

Quick question regarding flying:

Is it possible to have UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT arrow keys inverted but then the mouse not inverted? That's how it was for me in BF2 and I can't seem to find the option in BF4 to do this. Kinda sucks because its hard to aim with u/d/l/r and if I had mouse un-inverted then it would be a lot easier than having to relearn how to aim with inverted mouse.

edit: nvm figured it out. had to play around in the jet key bindings settings for mouse bindings
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
November 08 2013 17:31 GMT
#779
I've been enjoying the game for the most part. I play as engi and blow people up. I especially enjoy rocketing people who are behind cover, I'm pretty sure one of my victims were pretty annoyed with it hehehe.

I've been having trouble trying to find organized play though, after watching the EU vs USA showdown I really want to experience something like that at least once.
aCePikNik
Profile Joined May 2011
United States69 Posts
November 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#780
Having lots of fun with BF4 so far :D

So far, i've unlocked all of the assault rifles and don't really have a favorite they're all pretty meh. SCAR-H probably if I had to pick, all of the others have too high rates of fire for my liking. Moved onto the shotguns now, unlocked almost all of them but still using the 870MCS. SPAS-12 will probably be my favorite though, it was in BF3

So far, I like domination the most I would say, especially on operation locker.

Carbines are next after shottys, and I have to say leveling shotguns is making this game pretty shitty to me lol. No matter what map it just seems like I need to get closer no matter what, aside from locker. Bleh. Also seems like the netcode is kinda fucked, sometimes I can shoot someone 3 times at about 10m range and not kill them with an 870MCS blast to the face, and other times its a 1 hit kill all the way across a room. T.T

Love the game so far though, the new attack boats are fucking fun to play in on parcel storm when its gale force winds and huge waves.
<3 Sheth <3
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