Speedrunning Thread - Page 52

On March 09 2013 07:44 fishbowl wrote:
The record for FFT any% is 4:30:21 (see here) as of March 2nd. TL;DR of the run: JP scroll Ramza till he has Holy/Flare, learn all Calc skills, go to town. Of course that summary doesn't really do the run justice. It's an extremely refined run that has been worked on for months now. TheClaude is pretty much the authority on FFT and you should consult him or the very few other people that run FFT along with him (CVagts is the only person I can think of tbh) if you have any questions.

On March 09 2013 08:23 Duka08 wrote:

Ah this is great thanks! Didn't know people were actively doing RTA of this game. Very motivating! I was afraid RNG would be too much to bear, that was honestly one of my biggest curiosities. Will have to check this out in full at some point.

Ah I love this game! Must play it tonight now.

On March 09 2013 10:10 Raelcun wrote:

The strategies for RTA are just very different from the segmented run. Generally you want Ramza to start as with high faith and brave (sucks because you get into pokemon style resets over Ramza's stats), then you build up a lot of JP on the first fight having him punch the enemy chemist that uses potions(He won't run out). You block Delita out so that he can't interfere, then you use the scrolling bug to give Ramza max JP on wizard, learn the op spells and use the JP you earned in the first battle to learn yell.

Ramza spends the first few battles using yell repeatedly to gain enough JP to learn the few Calc formulas that you need. You don't need to max out Calc because if you can get Ramza's speed to increase he'll go first and every other character on the field will have a CT that's a multiple of 5. This is usable on the majority of the fights but you'll need a few other calculations to figure out the others.

There are some battles where this doesn't work and in segmented they'll manipulate some calcuations that hit Ramza as well as all the enemies and use the MP Switch ability make him take MP damage instead. Obviously since the chance of this activating is a % based on your brave this isn't really doable in real time for all of the times that you need to do it. Any number of these calculations have the potential to hit Ramza through MP switch, so alternatives are needed. An RTA needs to find ways around the battles where that's used in the segmented run. The segmented run is extremely optimized, I suppose there's probably more room on the RTA to improve though since it has to abandon the normal strategy at a few points.

tl;dr not a whole lot of RNG besides MP Switch

On March 09 2013 13:56 Duka08 wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm just surprised that, given the differences you've described, the difference is only ~10 min (at least, based on the segmented record posted to SDA, but now I highly doubt that's the latest haha....). What about random battles?

It may be one of my favorite games but given the length and style of the run it'll take me a few tries to see if I can dig it. Still, going to play it regardless (no runs!) just because I'm hype from talking about it.

Edit: AC4 didnt come in today

On March 10 2013 08:02 Yacobs wrote:
Plexa, your manipulation of the RNG interests me for other games. I know it's probably impossible for a lot of games but nonetheless I wonder if it's possible to manipulate the RNG for Dark Souls. Is there a systematic way that you used to test the game and to try to figure out how to control the RNG?

I'm guessing Dark Souls is virtually impossible since the random number generator is probably seeded based on your system's internal clock or something like that but you never know. Even if you can't manipulate it, I wonder if a roll early in the run can predict the outcome of rolls later in the run, for example.

On March 10 2013 08:02 Yacobs wrote:
Plexa, your manipulation of the RNG interests me for other games. I know it's probably impossible for a lot of games but nonetheless I wonder if it's possible to manipulate the RNG for Dark Souls. Is there a systematic way that you used to test the game and to try to figure out how to control the RNG?

I'm guessing Dark Souls is virtually impossible since the random number generator is probably seeded based on your system's internal clock or something like that but you never know. Even if you can't manipulate it, I wonder if a roll early in the run can predict the outcome of rolls later in the run, for example.

On March 10 2013 08:02 Yacobs wrote:
Plexa, your manipulation of the RNG interests me for other games. I know it's probably impossible for a lot of games but nonetheless I wonder if it's possible to manipulate the RNG for Dark Souls. Is there a systematic way that you used to test the game and to try to figure out how to control the RNG?

I'm guessing Dark Souls is virtually impossible since the random number generator is probably seeded based on your system's internal clock or something like that but you never know. Even if you can't manipulate it, I wonder if a roll early in the run can predict the outcome of rolls later in the run, for example.

On March 11 2013 11:16 Plexa wrote:
I just posted a miniguide on the RNG system from GS1 on SDA. Maybe it's useful to someone also speedrunning something on the GBA. Werster is actively rerouting his GS1 route now to accommodate for various RNG methods, he's going to have one hell of sick time after that I can tell t_t. I will probably do a run tomorrow to fix the obvious errors then wait for werster to destroy it.

On March 10 2013 07:16 KingDime wrote:
I was hoping to break 2:30 in SC2 campaign today but unfortunately I was 6 seconds off



I'll give it another attempt tomorrow because im damn close to breaking that 2:30:00 barrier.
Couple deaths from the broodlord on shatter the sky sealed it as 2:30+

In game time or SDA timing is 2 hrs 12 mins 36 seconds adding all mission times from the archives.
Happy and sad with this record atm heh.