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On July 11 2012 10:41 kiy0 wrote:
It doesn't really matter where DH12 ends up. Next year will most likely be a repeat for the Heat.
If they got it done with that roster, with injuries slowing them down, I can't see them not winning again with a better, healthier one. With Rashard Lewis and Ray Allen on board, this pretty much guarantees they will shoot north of 40% on their 3pt shots throughout the whole seasons (playoff included).
Pay Riley has done it again. Yet he can still do more if Mike Miller decides to retire and they get room to offer Chris Kaman a good deal. Then they just need to buy out Pittman and sign the rookie Justin Hamilton.
There really is nothing anyone can do to stop MIA from winning next year but that doesnt mean they cant compete for either number 2 or for the other conference final spot.
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Dear Atlanta,
Please stop drafting / signing / dumpster-diving-for small ball players. You have enough.
Love,
Me
P.S. Please sign Dwight Howard.
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A headcase on one team is usually a headcase on another team.
Miami may be the favorite, but it's not a lock by any means. Battier and Miller went from flatlined to shooting lights out. They, or Allen or Lewis, may not have such good play.
Who's to say OKC doesn't turn another corner like they did this year. And is Derrick Rose going to be out the whole year?
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I think Lewis is going to be a good addition for them and maybe as big as Allen's. We shall see though I just think it seems a little undervalued in the last few posts. If they are able to get another big it might not mean that many minutes for Lewis, but it will give nice matchup problems depending on the opponent.
edit: I am a little glad Lakers are going to take Richardson in the deal. They could use a SF of his skillset even though he might be overpaid and old-baggage. That's right get your tissues out Laker-haters.
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Wow, I just heard that Allen's going to the heat and Nash's going to the Lakers.
Whoa.
Though calling a repeat now is way too soon of course...there could be any number of things that could happen next year. Being favorites is one thing, but a team is almost never a lock before the season actually begins ofc. Hoping for a Heat repeat of course though ^^
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To soon to call for the repeat. Curious on how LBJ conditioning with hold up next season, playing in the Olympics and a full NBA season with the type of minutes he plays. I know Kobe had some trouble with this after the 08 Olympics who only does what half of what LBJ does on the floor.
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On July 11 2012 12:00 thuracine wrote:
To soon to call for the repeat. Curious on how LBJ conditioning with hold up next season, playing in the Olympics and a full NBA season with the type of minutes he plays. I know Kobe had some trouble with this after the 08 Olympics who only does what half of what LBJ does on the floor.
LBJ is young and made of adamantium. He is virtually indestructible. I'm sure his body will hold just fine.
In all seriousness, with the exception of that ghost elbow injury and the severe cramps during this years Finals, I have never seen Lebron's body fail him. He is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the NBA right now.
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On July 11 2012 12:02 QTIP. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 12:00 thuracine wrote:
To soon to call for the repeat. Curious on how LBJ conditioning with hold up next season, playing in the Olympics and a full NBA season with the type of minutes he plays. I know Kobe had some trouble with this after the 08 Olympics who only does what half of what LBJ does on the floor. LBJ is young and made of adamantium. He is virtually indestructible. I'm sure his body will hold just fine. In all seriousness, with the exception of that ghost elbow injury and the severe cramps during this years Finals, I have never seen Lebron's body fail him. He is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the NBA right now.
ive heard randomly from all over the place that he is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the history of the game. is this true?
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It's close enough. He isn't a freak in the sense that Shaquille O'Neal was a complete and utter freak, but it's really really close. He's like Bo Jackson or Adrian Peterson, an unreal combination of speed and size, buffness and grace. I'm annoyed just talking about it =(
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On July 11 2012 12:45 BlueRoyaL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 12:02 QTIP. wrote:On July 11 2012 12:00 thuracine wrote:
To soon to call for the repeat. Curious on how LBJ conditioning with hold up next season, playing in the Olympics and a full NBA season with the type of minutes he plays. I know Kobe had some trouble with this after the 08 Olympics who only does what half of what LBJ does on the floor. LBJ is young and made of adamantium. He is virtually indestructible. I'm sure his body will hold just fine. In all seriousness, with the exception of that ghost elbow injury and the severe cramps during this years Finals, I have never seen Lebron's body fail him. He is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the NBA right now. ive heard randomly from all over the place that he is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the history of the game. is this true?
I'm not remotely an LBJ fan (which has been well documented in the NBA playoffs thread) but I'd say he's the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in just about any pro sport. I can't think of a single player in any sport (Demarcus Ware is the closest to pop to mind) that matches LBJ's freak-of-nature athleticism.
The guy who said he's made of adamantium had me laughing, and it wouldn't surprise me at all. LBJ kind of reminds me of the T-1000 from Terminator 2: Judgement Day.
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Kevin Love too. Seems like a bunch of them are big on this yoga thing.
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Yoga's freaking hard. Seriously, you think you can do it till your tiny core gives out and embarrasses you and your lady friend.
Just to expand on Lebron, I think his athleticism is a bit overstated. He's about as athletic as any human has ever been but we've actually seen that before in Dr. J, David Thompson, Vince Carter(?), young Shaq....it's the other stuff on top of that that's pushing him into "greatest of the generation" territory.
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On July 11 2012 12:57 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 12:45 BlueRoyaL wrote:On July 11 2012 12:02 QTIP. wrote:On July 11 2012 12:00 thuracine wrote:
To soon to call for the repeat. Curious on how LBJ conditioning with hold up next season, playing in the Olympics and a full NBA season with the type of minutes he plays. I know Kobe had some trouble with this after the 08 Olympics who only does what half of what LBJ does on the floor. LBJ is young and made of adamantium. He is virtually indestructible. I'm sure his body will hold just fine. In all seriousness, with the exception of that ghost elbow injury and the severe cramps during this years Finals, I have never seen Lebron's body fail him. He is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the NBA right now. ive heard randomly from all over the place that he is the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in the history of the game. is this true? I'm not remotely an LBJ fan (which has been well documented in the NBA playoffs thread) but I'd say he's the pinnacle of raw athletic ability in just about any pro sport. I can't think of a single player in any sport (Demarcus Ware is the closest to pop to mind) that matches LBJ's freak-of-nature athleticism. The guy who said he's made of adamantium had me laughing, and it wouldn't surprise me at all. LBJ kind of reminds me of the T-1000 from Terminator 2: Judgement Day.
football has some great strong athletes. cam newton is a hell of a specimen. adrian peterson as well. recently rg3 had a 4.4 40yard dash and a 39 inch vertical and the dudes a quarter back.
granted rg3 is like 6 inches shorter than lebron, but cam newton is the closest to lebron imo. 6'5 hella strong fast
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? None of those guys come even close. To be able to be fast, strong, and injury free while playing his minutes is insane. Dr. J, thompson, and carter were not nearly as strong, and shaq was not nearly as athletic. if I were to compare lebron to anyone it would be barkley (lol) or more likely malone, but even if those guys come close in certain aspects lebron has a whole other branch that those guys don't. It's no wonder he can guard all 5 positions cause he's built that well all around. It's honestly unbelievable that the guy is 6'8.
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Certain aspects? Malone couldn't get over 30" of vertical and wasn't exactly known as a chase down speedster. I can see why you'd nitpick my examples but Barkley and Malone? Because on was 6'4 and the other 6'9? Because they both weighed around 250 in their playing days? I don't see that either.
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Well, I wanted to compare mostly big men, and in terms of being able to run the floor those two were probably the best of all time. Maybe there were other not so well known guys, but I wouldn't know much about that. They were strong and fast, but obviously not anywhere near as fast, and probably not close at all in terms of cardio and jumping ability. That's the thing though. A few inches and pounds make a HUGE difference, and being that tall and at that weight lebron is a beast.
But yeah, you'll be hard pressed to find a real legitimate comparison from history. Even in the 90s people didn't really emphasize physical training like the way they do now. When I think it over I'd have to say blake griffin, but although he can jump high, I still don't think it's close overall.
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Howard is probably similarly gifted athletically(accounting for his size), he's just not as skilled.
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It always boggles my mind the Barkley was so effective at PF being only 6'6.
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Psh, he wishes he was 6'6. I see some of him in Kevin Love, though Barkley was a much better defender. Both look like they sort of "plod" their way to 20 points and 20 rebounds.
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