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DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
August 11 2012 12:47 GMT
#5421
US 2123 is being updated to 1.7.2.5/95883
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 12:50:19
August 11 2012 12:49 GMT
#5422
US 382 is being updated to 1.7.2.5/95883

edit: update complete
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
August 11 2012 12:50 GMT
#5423
On August 11 2012 14:14 Angra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 11:06 sereniity wrote:
On August 11 2012 10:32 oZii wrote:
On August 11 2012 09:38 sereniity wrote:
God I fucking hate the AS50... it's so cheap in my opinion, wrecks everything without any downsides what-so-ever.

I have an SVD camo but it just feels silly and clunky to use when I know I could just go and get an AS50 from one of my camp tents :/... Wish they'd remove/lower the damage of all the snipers that hit above 8000. That way it'd atleast be abit harder to snipe, right now (if you have an AS50 or M107) all you have to do is check range and then zero and click right on target, no challenge at all...


Its a sim. A AS50 does what its suppose to do. The reason people like the AS50 so much is because its efficient. It is designed for vehicles so of course it kills in 1 hit.

A 50.cal sniper rifle hits bone irl you are pretty much dead do to the shockwave and tumble. T

We are talking guns and guns aren't designed to be balanced and since this uses Arma as its engine its still not designed to be balanced. There is a big thread on the official forums about people complaining about 50.cals I don't understand why.

Its the best in the game there is always a best in a game. 8000 damage is nothing to sneeze at either since you only have 12000 blood your pretty much dead if you get shot with a DMR so its not really different. I just don't think because you have to shoot someone 2 times means you are more skilled because you shot them with a DMR.

Sorry for rant been spending to much time on official forums I guess. I just don't understand how people can hate on the AS50 just because its 1 hit kill and low recoil. Thats what its designed to have irl.

To be far the SVD camo is the easiest gun sniper to range in the game if you are playing on a server that doesn't have scroll wheel range finder. The SVD downside is it has no Zoom. Making the DMR and M24 superior imo.


While you might be right, the problem is that AS50 is the most common sniper right now (not even exaggerating, I see over 50% AS50s on the people I either kill or get killed by.

If it was as rare as it's meant to be (no duping/hacking) then I'd agree.


The thing is though I don't think you're finding AS50s on people because they're more common than the M107 or anything, you're finding them on people because it's the preferred weapon over the M107, so when people have the choice of taking one or the other, they'll go with the AS50, which then makes it SEEM like it's more common to find them.

Unless you mean reducing the rarity of .50 cal and high end sniper rifles overall, then I agree that high end guns should be less common than they are right now.


I prefer alot of weapons over other weapons, that doesn't mean I walk around with an M4 CCO SD all the time...

If you compare the amount of people with AS50 you meet compared to people with SVD Camo/M4 CCO SD/FN FAL/M14/L85 AWS you'll notice how many more AS50s there are... it's quite ridicolous and has nothing to do with what's prefered.

The sniper is supposed to be the best sniper (and it sure is), it should be much rarer than it is. Then again, with the current duping it's impossible to make it less common (kind of), thus I hate it atm ...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
August 11 2012 12:54 GMT
#5424
On August 11 2012 21:49 tofucake wrote:
US 382 is being updated to 1.7.2.5/95883

edit: update complete


are you sure ? it shows up as 1.7.2.4 and you forgot to change the name :3
btw there is a hive update out to.
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19012 Posts
August 11 2012 12:55 GMT
#5425
yeah I forgot to change the name.

dammit
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 11 2012 12:57 GMT
#5426
On August 11 2012 21:49 tofucake wrote:
US 382 is being updated to 1.7.2.5/95883

edit: update complete

Haha, and that's just an hour after I downgraded my ARMA II and DayZ so I could play on the TL servers. :D
DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
August 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#5427
On August 11 2012 21:57 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 21:49 tofucake wrote:
US 382 is being updated to 1.7.2.5/95883

edit: update complete

Haha, and that's just an hour after I downgraded my ARMA II and DayZ so I could play on the TL servers. :D


we love you to :3
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
KnT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia243 Posts
August 11 2012 13:00 GMT
#5428
Did all the tents on your server disappear when the payment fuckup happened Tofu? Or does it just need a reset?
I played a PvP last night, he had stalkers I had stalkers they both shot laser. I lasered harder and won.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19012 Posts
August 11 2012 13:05 GMT
#5429
I dunno :\

Haven't played in a while
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
KnT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 13:11:06
August 11 2012 13:09 GMT
#5430
H'ok I guess I'll check again when the server is up

EDIT: I guess I'll go check now :D
I played a PvP last night, he had stalkers I had stalkers they both shot laser. I lasered harder and won.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
August 11 2012 13:16 GMT
#5431
Tents and shit were up last night, also cleared some wire from Electro Firestation with a satchel.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 13:26:25
August 11 2012 13:20 GMT
#5432
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Gues what is back :x
Be afraid !

PS: quick mirror if it takes you forever to download day-z/beta
http://ge.tt/api/1/files/213kurL/0/blob?download (beta)
http://ge.tt/api/1/files/7Go7wrL/0/blob?download (day-z)
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 11 2012 13:23 GMT
#5433
O SHI--
bandit skins work the same way they used too?
not sure how I feel about that.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
August 11 2012 13:47 GMT
#5434
On August 11 2012 10:32 oZii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 09:38 sereniity wrote:
God I fucking hate the AS50... it's so cheap in my opinion, wrecks everything without any downsides what-so-ever.

I have an SVD camo but it just feels silly and clunky to use when I know I could just go and get an AS50 from one of my camp tents :/... Wish they'd remove/lower the damage of all the snipers that hit above 8000. That way it'd atleast be abit harder to snipe, right now (if you have an AS50 or M107) all you have to do is check range and then zero and click right on target, no challenge at all...


Its a sim. A AS50 does what its suppose to do. The reason people like the AS50 so much is because its efficient. It is designed for vehicles so of course it kills in 1 hit.

A 50.cal sniper rifle hits bone irl you are pretty much dead do to the shockwave and tumble. T

We are talking guns and guns aren't designed to be balanced and since this uses Arma as its engine its still not designed to be balanced. There is a big thread on the official forums about people complaining about 50.cals I don't understand why.

Its the best in the game there is always a best in a game. 8000 damage is nothing to sneeze at either since you only have 12000 blood your pretty much dead if you get shot with a DMR so its not really different. I just don't think because you have to shoot someone 2 times means you are more skilled because you shot them with a DMR.

Sorry for rant been spending to much time on official forums I guess. I just don't understand how people can hate on the AS50 just because its 1 hit kill and low recoil. Thats what its designed to have irl.

To be far the SVD camo is the easiest gun sniper to range in the game if you are playing on a server that doesn't have scroll wheel range finder. The SVD downside is it has no Zoom. Making the DMR and M24 superior imo.



I don't see how RL has anything to do with DayZ.
It's a game with simulation elements, realism isn't an argument to put something in. Morphine heals bone fractures in this game, is that realistic? Even so, the .50 cal snipers and the L85 aren't realistic anyway. You don't casually stand up and make a 1000m shot in poor weather conditions..

The reason I don't like those weapons in the game is because they trivialize it. The limitations of the other weapons are what makes them interesting. DayZ is all about the unexpected. If you engage someone at medium range with assault rifles it's not trivial to kill them, which leaves room for the targets to react and the fight to play out in a lot of different ways. With an AS50 you see them, you shoot them and that's it. It's easy to always have a situation under control. People like that because it lets them feel comfortable, but DayZ isn't about being in comfortable positions.

The L85 is even worse, it should be obvious to anyone why it doesn't belong in the game and don't even get me started on the realism of that one.
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 14:13:32
August 11 2012 14:11 GMT
#5435
On August 11 2012 22:47 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 10:32 oZii wrote:
On August 11 2012 09:38 sereniity wrote:
God I fucking hate the AS50... it's so cheap in my opinion, wrecks everything without any downsides what-so-ever.

I have an SVD camo but it just feels silly and clunky to use when I know I could just go and get an AS50 from one of my camp tents :/... Wish they'd remove/lower the damage of all the snipers that hit above 8000. That way it'd atleast be abit harder to snipe, right now (if you have an AS50 or M107) all you have to do is check range and then zero and click right on target, no challenge at all...


Its a sim. A AS50 does what its suppose to do. The reason people like the AS50 so much is because its efficient. It is designed for vehicles so of course it kills in 1 hit.

A 50.cal sniper rifle hits bone irl you are pretty much dead do to the shockwave and tumble. T

We are talking guns and guns aren't designed to be balanced and since this uses Arma as its engine its still not designed to be balanced. There is a big thread on the official forums about people complaining about 50.cals I don't understand why.

Its the best in the game there is always a best in a game. 8000 damage is nothing to sneeze at either since you only have 12000 blood your pretty much dead if you get shot with a DMR so its not really different. I just don't think because you have to shoot someone 2 times means you are more skilled because you shot them with a DMR.

Sorry for rant been spending to much time on official forums I guess. I just don't understand how people can hate on the AS50 just because its 1 hit kill and low recoil. Thats what its designed to have irl.

To be far the SVD camo is the easiest gun sniper to range in the game if you are playing on a server that doesn't have scroll wheel range finder. The SVD downside is it has no Zoom. Making the DMR and M24 superior imo.



I don't see how RL has anything to do with DayZ.
It's a game with simulation elements, realism isn't an argument to put something in. Morphine heals bone fractures in this game, is that realistic? Even so, the .50 cal snipers and the L85 aren't realistic anyway. You don't casually stand up and make a 1000m shot in poor weather conditions..

The reason I don't like those weapons in the game is because they trivialize it. The limitations of the other weapons are what makes them interesting. DayZ is all about the unexpected. If you engage someone at medium range with assault rifles it's not trivial to kill them, which leaves room for the targets to react and the fight to play out in a lot of different ways. With an AS50 you see them, you shoot them and that's it. It's easy to always have a situation under control. People like that because it lets them feel comfortable, but DayZ isn't about being in comfortable positions.

The L85 is even worse, it should be obvious to anyone why it doesn't belong in the game and don't even get me started on the realism of that one.

Reading over your post and previous posts it just seems like you are just trying to look for "holes" in peoples arguments. Rocket has come out and already said he wants DayZ to simulate real combat situations. Judging by your vast knowledge of combat, this makes me think you are completely incompetent. With our current technology 1000m shot difficulty is massively reduced in difficulty. Matter of fact there are things that exsist that make the L85's scope look like trash. Such as the Ring Sights,Tube Sights,OEG Sights....

.50 cal round at its inception was designed to take down targets with one round. Doesn't matter the distance you get shot from its still a .50 cal round. There are .50 cal rifles that are designed to snipe the crew out of a tank and which has been done in the past.

Point is Rocket intended the game/mod to simulate IRL combat period. No further discussion needed. Game is far from complete and is currently being destroyed by hackers ruining peoples experiences. Educate yourself a bit more by reading further into what your trying to say. Just seeking out arguments is like arguing why is bread cut a certain way. Lastly, please take this argument and yourself elsewhere as you are derailing the thread.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
August 11 2012 14:12 GMT
#5436
On August 11 2012 22:23 PassiveAce wrote:
O SHI--
bandit skins work the same way they used too?
not sure how I feel about that.

no there are now 3 possible skins, then clothing too i believe
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 11 2012 14:13 GMT
#5437
On August 11 2012 23:12 TSBspartacus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 22:23 PassiveAce wrote:
O SHI--
bandit skins work the same way they used too?
not sure how I feel about that.

no there are now 3 possible skins, then clothing too i believe

neat!
I was talking about how they should implement multiple skins on ts like a month ago xD
glad they came to the same conclusion, that should make it a lot easier to identify the baddies. so is the final "level" of banditry the old bandit skin or is there a new one?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
August 11 2012 14:19 GMT
#5438
On August 11 2012 22:47 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 10:32 oZii wrote:
On August 11 2012 09:38 sereniity wrote:
God I fucking hate the AS50... it's so cheap in my opinion, wrecks everything without any downsides what-so-ever.

I have an SVD camo but it just feels silly and clunky to use when I know I could just go and get an AS50 from one of my camp tents :/... Wish they'd remove/lower the damage of all the snipers that hit above 8000. That way it'd atleast be abit harder to snipe, right now (if you have an AS50 or M107) all you have to do is check range and then zero and click right on target, no challenge at all...


Its a sim. A AS50 does what its suppose to do. The reason people like the AS50 so much is because its efficient. It is designed for vehicles so of course it kills in 1 hit.

A 50.cal sniper rifle hits bone irl you are pretty much dead do to the shockwave and tumble. T

We are talking guns and guns aren't designed to be balanced and since this uses Arma as its engine its still not designed to be balanced. There is a big thread on the official forums about people complaining about 50.cals I don't understand why.

Its the best in the game there is always a best in a game. 8000 damage is nothing to sneeze at either since you only have 12000 blood your pretty much dead if you get shot with a DMR so its not really different. I just don't think because you have to shoot someone 2 times means you are more skilled because you shot them with a DMR.

Sorry for rant been spending to much time on official forums I guess. I just don't understand how people can hate on the AS50 just because its 1 hit kill and low recoil. Thats what its designed to have irl.

To be far the SVD camo is the easiest gun sniper to range in the game if you are playing on a server that doesn't have scroll wheel range finder. The SVD downside is it has no Zoom. Making the DMR and M24 superior imo.



I don't see how RL has anything to do with DayZ.
It's a game with simulation elements, realism isn't an argument to put something in. Morphine heals bone fractures in this game, is that realistic? Even so, the .50 cal snipers and the L85 aren't realistic anyway. You don't casually stand up and make a 1000m shot in poor weather conditions..

The reason I don't like those weapons in the game is because they trivialize it. The limitations of the other weapons are what makes them interesting. DayZ is all about the unexpected. If you engage someone at medium range with assault rifles it's not trivial to kill them, which leaves room for the targets to react and the fight to play out in a lot of different ways. With an AS50 you see them, you shoot them and that's it. It's easy to always have a situation under control. People like that because it lets them feel comfortable, but DayZ isn't about being in comfortable positions.

The L85 is even worse, it should be obvious to anyone why it doesn't belong in the game and don't even get me started on the realism of that one.


/agree

even made the same post last night on the dayz forums lol
http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/67514-remove-thermal-scopes/

without thermal and as50
pvp would be a 1000x more rewarding
young ho
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
August 11 2012 14:21 GMT
#5439
On August 11 2012 23:13 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 23:12 TSBspartacus wrote:
On August 11 2012 22:23 PassiveAce wrote:
O SHI--
bandit skins work the same way they used too?
not sure how I feel about that.

no there are now 3 possible skins, then clothing too i believe

neat!
I was talking about how they should implement multiple skins on ts like a month ago xD
glad they came to the same conclusion, that should make it a lot easier to identify the baddies. so is the final "level" of banditry the old bandit skin or is there a new one?

I think that shows "bandits" then there is a new one for "good guys" and one for neutral.
Also the respawn button if used twice in ten minutes it will put an empty untrowable tin can in your inventory, to discourage respawn gaming
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
August 11 2012 14:24 GMT
#5440
On August 11 2012 22:20 DarkEnergy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Gues what is back :x
Be afraid !

PS: quick mirror if it takes you forever to download day-z/beta
http://ge.tt/api/1/files/213kurL/0/blob?download (beta)
http://ge.tt/api/1/files/7Go7wrL/0/blob?download (day-z)

Nice thanks dark, is that running from our server?
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