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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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FFGenerations
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games with global tp are clearly not designed to be a world simulator... whats the point of it all? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:52 FFGenerations wrote: nothing like instant teleportation from any location to any location to give a decisive FUCK YOU to immersion games with global tp are clearly not designed to be a world simulator... whats the point of it all? Because if you really want immersion you'll walk and immerse yourself. The options are what makes elder scrolls great. Play and enjoy the game however you like. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:52 FFGenerations wrote: nothing like instant teleportation from any location to any location to give a decisive FUCK YOU to immersion games with global tp are clearly not designed to be a world simulator... whats the point of it all? The wayshrine teleportation animation is awesome! Feels like you are casting a spell to traverse through space! | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:45 Holy_AT wrote: It is not mediocre, it is the best MMO that will be available. pfthahahaha, are you actually serious? On January 24 2014 08:45 Holy_AT wrote: It has top graphics for an mmo, an immersive world and is going to have a good story. It most definitely doesn't have top graphics. And they could definitely put some more work into models and equipment. Good story? All i have to do is say: Tribunal and any story there was is gone. The tribunal is enough to clear any threat molag bal might be. On January 24 2014 08:45 Holy_AT wrote: But it will be the best in graphics and even lore and immersion wise. TESO? Best in lore? pfthahaha, yeah after murdering and butchering the TES lore, i'm sure it will have good lore, oh wait, it doesn't. Instead we get bland races and mary sue leaders for them (Altmer leader). There's a very good reason why TESO is non-canon. | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
On January 24 2014 09:35 Unleashing wrote: pfthahahaha, are you actually serious? It most definitely doesn't have top graphics. And they could definitely put some more work into models and equipment. Good story? All i have to do is say: Tribunal and any story there was is gone. The tribunal is enough to clear any threat molag bal might be. TESO? Best in lore? pfthahaha, yeah after murdering and butchering the TES lore, i'm sure it will have good lore, oh wait, it doesn't. Instead we get bland races and mary sue leaders for them (Altmer leader). There's a very good reason why TESO is non-canon. Well everyone is entitled to his opinion, but I dont know what MMOs are having better graphics than ESO ? Maybe mention 3 or five out of the multitude of mmos. And of course they made adaptations to the story, if you don't like adaptations you really must hate prequels, sequels and re-imaginations. They even did changes in the TES series themselves and contradictions... I cant think of any mmo that is more immersive at the current time, spoken texts, well thought out areas quests and reappearing characters. For me, I just like it. I mean taste is in the eye of the beholder but some things like TES having top graphics compared to other mmos is just a fact. You may dislike the art style itself, but you cant dispute the other fact. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 24 2014 10:08 Holy_AT wrote: Well everyone is entitled to his opinion, but I dont know what MMOs are having better graphics than ESO ? Maybe mention 3 or five out of the multitude of mmos. Yeah, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Too bad you didn't write as though you were just talking about your opinion, you were writing as though you were just stating facts. Also you said and i quote "it will be the best in graphics" even though an MMO like TERA easily has better graphics, especially since in TERA the armor doesn't look as though it is painted onto the character. On January 24 2014 10:08 Holy_AT wrote: And of course they made adaptations to the story, if you don't like adaptations you really must hate prequels, sequels and re-imaginations. They even did changes in the TES series themselves and contradictions... Adaptions? It's no longer TES, that's why it's non-canon. They have changed so much they could just as well have created their own universe, it's a poorly done TES paint-job. Again, races lose the things that make them unique, races that hate eachother are suddenly friends just because, the big evil that's threatening everyone could be stopped by the dunmer alone and they would be home for tea as well. Not to mention anytime anything was even a little bit too complicated they ruled it out as a transcription error. The endless jungles of cyrodill? Transcription errors, the amazing cities of summerset isle? Transcription errors. I could go dig up lists of things they have done to butcher the lore, they haven't just made small changes, they have completely ruined big parts of the lore, that's why even bethesda is now taking a stance that this game isn't canon, because it's so fucking dumb. Oh and let's not get started on how none of the factions make any sense. Or how Elder scrolls are now fucking CTF objects, the whole thing the series is meant to be built on, scrolls of unfathomable influence on reality itself, are fucking capture the fucking flag objects. On January 24 2014 10:08 Holy_AT wrote: For me, I just like it. I mean taste is in the eye of the beholder but some things like TES having top graphics compared to other mmos is just a fact. You may dislike the art style itself, but you cant dispute the other fact. And you're allowed to like it, but you tried listing all its qualities as though they were facts. And yes i can, it looks incredibly bland to me. The items often fit incredibly awkwardly onto the characters and the clothing looks as though it was painted onto the character. It might come as a shocker, but for an MMO your character is really fucking important, having the characters looking bad is a huge step down. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
Gameplay > graphics, everytime. | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
kinda crazy list of people ;o i was so certain i heard john cleese and michael gambon when i was playing  | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 24 2014 10:08 Holy_AT wrote: Well everyone is entitled to his opinion, but I dont know what MMOs are having better graphics than ESO ? Maybe mention 3 or five out of the multitude of mmos. And of course they made adaptations to the story, if you don't like adaptations you really must hate prequels, sequels and re-imaginations. They even did changes in the TES series themselves and contradictions... I cant think of any mmo that is more immersive at the current time, spoken texts, well thought out areas quests and reappearing characters. For me, I just like it. I mean taste is in the eye of the beholder but some things like TES having top graphics compared to other mmos is just a fact. You may dislike the art style itself, but you cant dispute the other fact. You are joking. The only thing all recent MMOs have done well on is graphics. It's really easy to get good graphics, you can just throw money at it and the graphics will go up. You can't just throw money at gameplay and expect it to go up. | ||
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Avean
Norway449 Posts
On January 24 2014 12:47 Sufficiency wrote: You are joking. The only thing all recent MMOs have done well on is graphics. It's really easy to get good graphics, you can just throw money at it and the graphics will go up. You can't just throw money at gameplay and expect it to go up. What? ESO has one of the most exciting combat systems to date. It has realtime combat with blocking and attacks from the mouse just like a singleplayer game. Also abilities are just support, the balance is more towards actual player skill than levels and abilities chosen. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On January 25 2014 00:59 Avean wrote: What? ESO has one of the most exciting combat systems to date. It has realtime combat with blocking and attacks from the mouse just like a singleplayer game. Also abilities are just support, the balance is more towards actual player skill than levels and abilities chosen. I feel like we played a different game in beta. I played a 2h melee class and it was some of the most boring, unintuitive, and awkward combat of any mmo I've ever played. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22701 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Miragee
8716 Posts
On January 24 2014 10:40 Disengaged wrote: Graphics don't mean much if the gameplay isn't there. Gameplay > graphics, everytime. This! But for the sake of it: A lot of new coming asian MMO's look way better than TESO does. You want three examples? ArcheAge, Black Desert, Bless. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On January 24 2014 10:30 Unleashing wrote: Yeah, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Too bad you didn't write as though you were just talking about your opinion, you were writing as though you were just stating facts. Also you said and i quote "it will be the best in graphics" even though an MMO like TERA easily has better graphics, especially since in TERA the armor doesn't look as though it is painted onto the character. Adaptions? It's no longer TES, that's why it's non-canon. They have changed so much they could just as well have created their own universe, it's a poorly done TES paint-job. Again, races lose the things that make them unique, races that hate eachother are suddenly friends just because, the big evil that's threatening everyone could be stopped by the dunmer alone and they would be home for tea as well. Not to mention anytime anything was even a little bit too complicated they ruled it out as a transcription error. The endless jungles of cyrodill? Transcription errors, the amazing cities of summerset isle? Transcription errors. I could go dig up lists of things they have done to butcher the lore, they haven't just made small changes, they have completely ruined big parts of the lore, that's why even bethesda is now taking a stance that this game isn't canon, because it's so fucking dumb. Oh and let's not get started on how none of the factions make any sense. Or how Elder scrolls are now fucking CTF objects, the whole thing the series is meant to be built on, scrolls of unfathomable influence on reality itself, are fucking capture the fucking flag objects. And you're allowed to like it, but you tried listing all its qualities as though they were facts. And yes i can, it looks incredibly bland to me. The items often fit incredibly awkwardly onto the characters and the clothing looks as though it was painted onto the character. It might come as a shocker, but for an MMO your character is really fucking important, having the characters looking bad is a huge step down. jesus fuck calm down we get you don't like the game, why do you feel obligated to preach this to people who have genuine interest in it ? If I tell you not to watch that movie you are so waiting for will that stop you ? I will still play that game even if I come from the camp of my favorite game being sold to another developer and getting destroyed with a couple of shitty releases - I have Neverwinter Nights in mind. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On January 16 2014 05:43 trainRiderJ wrote: You can do the same thing over and over in Borderlands 2 or Diablo 3 and those games told a story pretty well, at least Borderlands 2 did. The point is you can have story in any game, just write in an engaging quest series and you're done. It doesn't even have to be required but it can be there. Good point but those aren't MMOs. MMOs have something similar in instanced dungeons (where the storytelling can be better) but in the open world they are quite different (not limited to 4-8 players). | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On January 16 2014 07:13 Avean wrote: Big thumbs up. In my MMO career SWG preCU was one hell of an amazing experience. Totally open world, huge planets and amazing crafting system. People made careers out of that crafting system, cities would be full with players that offered tons of different stuff. It was a real breathing econemy. Also the class system, you could study and mix tons of classes i remember. Like Doctor and Teras Kasi for example. So good memories from that MMO, its never been an MMO like it ... Thinking back on it, it was probably the most advanced MMO. Cant think of any that come close to it now. Sure MMO today have more exciting combat but man, here you had open world PvP. It was amazing. Sounds cool. Eve and Ultima Online (pre-expansions) are/were the only others like it. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 25 2014 00:59 Avean wrote: What? ESO has one of the most exciting combat systems to date. It has realtime combat with blocking and attacks from the mouse just like a singleplayer game. Also abilities are just support, the balance is more towards actual player skill than levels and abilities chosen. I did not play the beta, but I did play Skyrim and I have some idea of what you are referring to... so no, it is not innovative and certainly not a sign of 'fun' or 'success'. Just see TERA and Blade and Soul. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On January 25 2014 01:36 Miragee wrote: This! But for the sake of it: A lot of new coming asian MMO's look way better than TESO does. You want three examples? ArcheAge, Black Desert, Bless. when does archeage actually come out in europe. still waiting for that one | ||
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