On January 12 2013 08:56 Akamu wrote: I was actually quite nervous about the game tomorrow night until i saw/remembered this...Most people know Rodgers is "sensitive" but this is like the ultimate in your face for him. His childhood dream team that he idolized and wanted to play for... passes him in the draft. Tisk tisk. He plays lights out in these situations when he thinks he has something to prove.
Example A- The houstan game this year. Coming off a 2-3 start and people raining all over the Packer parade Rodgers gave them all a reason to "shhhhhhhhh"
Example B- the 2010 playoff run. After a playoff failure the season before and having to hear about Brett's superbowl win and his run with the vikings the previous year. Rodgers needed to cement that he was for real and the new king of GB.
I can say with confidence the Packers (but mostly Rodgers) win tomorrow night. Goodbye San Fran. Rodgers is coming home.
I don't believe in these sorts of arguments (Rodgers is more motivated to play against San Fran because they passed him up) because it suggests that Rodgers would not be as motivated if he were to play against another team. Rodgers (and any other quarterback) will be equally incentivized to play against the 49ers as he would be against any other team in the league given it is a playoff game where the stakes are incredibly high.
On January 12 2013 08:56 Akamu wrote: I was actually quite nervous about the game tomorrow night until i saw/remembered this...Most people know Rodgers is "sensitive" but this is like the ultimate in your face for him. His childhood dream team that he idolized and wanted to play for... passes him in the draft. Tisk tisk. He plays lights out in these situations when he thinks he has something to prove.
Example A- The houstan game this year. Coming off a 2-3 start and people raining all over the Packer parade Rodgers gave them all a reason to "shhhhhhhhh"
Example B- the 2010 playoff run. After a playoff failure the season before and having to hear about Brett's superbowl win and his run with the vikings the previous year. Rodgers needed to cement that he was for real and the new king of GB.
I can say with confidence the Packers (but mostly Rodgers) win tomorrow night. Goodbye San Fran. Rodgers is coming home.
I don't believe in these sorts of arguments (Rodgers is more motivated to play against San Fran because they passed him up) because it suggests that Rodgers would not be as motivated if he were to play against another team. Rodgers (and any other quarterback) will be equally incentivized to play against the 49ers as he would be against any other team in the league given it is a playoff game where the stakes are incredibly high.
Makes Rodgers seem really petty if you say he's more motivated because he's playing aganist sf. W.e NFL network like cable news networks are just dribble to fill air time, espn is slightly better because it's not nfl all day long, less time to just find random shit to talk about.
On January 12 2013 08:56 Akamu wrote: I was actually quite nervous about the game tomorrow night until i saw/remembered this...Most people know Rodgers is "sensitive" but this is like the ultimate in your face for him. His childhood dream team that he idolized and wanted to play for... passes him in the draft. Tisk tisk. He plays lights out in these situations when he thinks he has something to prove.
Example A- The houstan game this year. Coming off a 2-3 start and people raining all over the Packer parade Rodgers gave them all a reason to "shhhhhhhhh"
Example B- the 2010 playoff run. After a playoff failure the season before and having to hear about Brett's superbowl win and his run with the vikings the previous year. Rodgers needed to cement that he was for real and the new king of GB.
I can say with confidence the Packers (but mostly Rodgers) win tomorrow night. Goodbye San Fran. Rodgers is coming home.
I don't believe in these sorts of arguments (Rodgers is more motivated to play against San Fran because they passed him up) because it suggests that Rodgers would not be as motivated if he were to play against another team. Rodgers (and any other quarterback) will be equally incentivized to play against the 49ers as he would be against any other team in the league given it is a playoff game where the stakes are incredibly high.
Makes Rodgers seem really petty if you say he's more motivated because he's playing aganist sf. W.e NFL network like cable news networks are just dribble to fill air time, espn is slightly better because it's not nfl all day long, less time to just find random shit to talk about.
@Trance How can you not believe in "these sorts of arguements"? If you have ever played in a competitive sport you would know this is a very real thing at every level. Rivalries play a huge part in sports. Sure you can look at it at the end of the day and say doesn't matter who it was it's just another win or loss. But that's just not true. There are many MANY more motivations than "its their job" or "stakes are high" people play with more passion when they have a chip on their shoulder. Since this is an sc site ill break it down like this. You finally made it to masters/gm/whatever. You are playing well and boom. Who do you hit on the ladder? Your favorite pro. Let's say it's Catz. Now you're super excited and play a great game but in the end you lose and gg out. But Catz bm's you. Whether it's he thinks you played cheesy or that you just suck it doesn't matter. He bm'd you. You're favorite player/streamer who you have learned so much from and spent so much time watching just called you a cheesy faggot and thinks you should take a short fall off a high cliff. You think the next time you see him on the ladder you arn't gonna have extra motivation to beat him? and beat him like he's never been beat before? Of course you are. You're never gonna forget how much that moment hurt.
This is what Rodgers feels. x1000. To think this game is no more than just a divisional playoff game to him is just silly.
@Semantics Maybe it is petty. But if that's what fuels his fire, who cares?
Rivalries sure are a huge part of sports - and motivation might vary in regular season games (equatable to ladder games), but they wouldn't in the playoffs where elimination is on the line.
Rodgers is (or at least should be) just as motivated to play against the 49ers as he would be if the Packers were to play for example, the Falcons in the divisional round. It is ludicrous to suggest that Rodgers would not give 100% effort if he were to play against the Falcons. Rodgers might have high motivation to beat the 49ers (and have a chip on his shoulder, etc.), but he would equally high motivation to beat the Falcons (or any other team).
On January 12 2013 16:05 TranceStorm wrote: Rivalries sure are a huge part of sports - and motivation might vary in regular season games (equatable to ladder games), but they wouldn't in the playoffs where elimination is on the line.
Rodgers is (or at least should be) just as motivated to play against the 49ers as he would be if the Packers were to play for example, the Falcons in the divisional round. It is ludicrous to suggest that Rodgers would not give 100% effort if he were to play against the Falcons. Rodgers might have high motivation to beat the 49ers (and have a chip on his shoulder, etc.), but he would equally high motivation to beat the Falcons (or any other team).
Effort isn't a measurable quality. None of this is. He isn't magically gonna have a better 40 time vs the niners or anything measurable that we can see put our finger on.
It is a professional players job, in any sport, to go out there and give 100% effort. If they don't they won't have a job much longer.
But if you compare the motivation/edge/chip/whatever-the-fuck-you-wanna-call-it that Rodgers would have vs the Niners to vs the Falcons. It's no contest.
He has nothing to prove vs the Falcons. He blew them out in their own dome 2 years ago. It's a big game because of the divisional playoffs but there is no "it" factor.
He has everything to prove vs the Niners. His childhood dream team. Who shunned him by passing him in the draft and taking a different qb in his place. There is that extra motivation, that it factor that pushes it to 110% effort so to say.
This is nothing new. Emotion has always played a big role in football. Look at chuckstrong this year. Or Brett Favre after his dad died. People go above and beyond the normal "100%" effort when they have more motivation.
Hmmmm sorry bout that. Forgot about the bears. No doubt they are the best team.... though only cuz they have a real QB. If they had a good O-line theyd be title contenders. Theyre so good I forgot they opened up the coaching chair.
On January 12 2013 16:05 TranceStorm wrote: Rivalries sure are a huge part of sports - and motivation might vary in regular season games (equatable to ladder games), but they wouldn't in the playoffs where elimination is on the line.
Rodgers is (or at least should be) just as motivated to play against the 49ers as he would be if the Packers were to play for example, the Falcons in the divisional round. It is ludicrous to suggest that Rodgers would not give 100% effort if he were to play against the Falcons. Rodgers might have high motivation to beat the 49ers (and have a chip on his shoulder, etc.), but he would equally high motivation to beat the Falcons (or any other team).
Effort isn't a measurable quality. None of this is. He isn't magically gonna have a better 40 time vs the niners or anything measurable that we can see put our finger on.
It is a professional players job, in any sport, to go out there and give 100% effort. If they don't they won't have a job much longer.
But if you compare the motivation/edge/chip/whatever-the-fuck-you-wanna-call-it that Rodgers would have vs the Niners to vs the Falcons. It's no contest.
He has nothing to prove vs the Falcons. He blew them out in their own dome 2 years ago. It's a big game because of the divisional playoffs but there is no "it" factor.
He has everything to prove vs the Niners. His childhood dream team. Who shunned him by passing him in the draft and taking a different qb in his place. There is that extra motivation, that it factor that pushes it to 110% effort so to say.
This is nothing new. Emotion has always played a big role in football. Look at chuckstrong this year. Or Brett Favre after his dad died. People go above and beyond the normal "100%" effort when they have more motivation.
Well said man. I agree with you.
When I played soccer in HS, for example, there were regular season rivalry games that I played with more intensity than I did playoff games. That sense of determination against an opponent you dislike can really push you to fight harder. If I was playing against a team that I respected, I could go out and play hard and give it "my all", and still feel good about it afterwards if we lost. But against a rival, or even a player you dislike, there is that extra kick, or drive, that pushes you to fight harder against them, because you don't want to lose to them- you don't want them to win. It pushes you to another level, knowing when you lose, there is no happy ending. If you lose, your bitter enemy wins. Against a friend, if you lose, hey, at least they'll get to enjoy it. Those thoughts in your head can change everything in a game, in a pivotal moment. Its a different feeling.
Obviously, comparing my high school athletic experience to professional sports is not completely fair, but I think it holds some merit.
On January 10 2013 18:42 GTR wrote: Sherman video for those like me who had their deadspin one not load.
Lol, I might be a Hawks fan but how can you not like Ringworm Sherm after this video? He's clearly just trash talking to fuck with people. After the game he gives them props like everyone else
On January 13 2013 06:48 Malinor wrote: Nice game already
Actually sort of bad mistakes by both teams already.
Just replace 'nice' with 'action packed'. I enjoyed all the games last week (I am in no position to judge the quality of the games though, I am european after all ), but I wouldn't mind a higher scoring one today, and this is off to a good start. If I could only decide which team to root for.
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