EPTBears need to stop running. I wanna see if Aldon Smith can get a few more sacks.
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Bears need to stop running. I wanna see if Aldon Smith can get a few more sacks. | ||
NonY
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For a little more context, Kaepernick patted him on the back, Urlacher turned around to see who patted him, then Kaepernick must've said something like "good game" though I couldn't hear it, then Urlacher said something like "oh you fucked us up man". | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On November 20 2012 13:39 DannyJ wrote: 9ers actually using Vernon Davis was a welcome change. He wasn't even part of the gameplan for the last month, which was very confusing. VD was doing beautiful blocks and pulling double coverage all month. TE has more roles then just receiver. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On November 20 2012 13:41 semantics wrote: VD was doing beautiful blocks and pulling double coverage all month. TE has more roles then just receiver. Yeah but he's also one of their best athletes and receivers and he plays nearly every snap. Sure teams focus and double him a lot but they went 1 game where they didnt even target him and the others he was barely looked at. Tons (all) of elite players get defensive focus. Seems like a waste to me. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On November 20 2012 14:25 DannyJ wrote: Yeah but he's also one of their best athletes and receivers and he plays nearly every snap. Sure teams focus and double him a lot but they went 1 game where they didnt even target him and the others he was barely looked at. Tons (all) of elite players get defensive focus. Seems like a waste to me. Tony G does all the things VD has been doing, and still puts up numbers every week. Gronk does the same, and puts up numbers every week. No excuses. They just weren't using him | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On November 20 2012 13:58 xDaunt wrote: I don't know if Kaepernick is ready for full time duty in that he can perform consistently at the level that he performed at tonight. However, I definitely don't think that Alex Smith has ever played as good of a game and made the same quality throws that Kaepernick made tonight. It was beautiful to see some real quarterbacking again in SF. little bias here, I think Smith still really consistent so let's not throw him off too fast :D | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
Every now and the morons at nfl.com write a good story. This is one of them. It's a stark realization just how bad the offense is, and just how much Jay is carrying when someone steps in to fill his role. Today's game was an excellent showing of just how good Jay is, and exactly what he means to that offense. The 28 sacks they've surrendered this season could just as easily be doubled, after seeing this awful performance from that OLine. And this meshes very well with that jumbled rant that I posted the other day. Cutler is very under-appreciated by the talking heads. "Why is it that you never quite appreciate Jay Cutler until he's not playing?" And the last two games really showcase my earlier concerns about the offense as a whole. It looks like they're playing high school football. Of course, I'm basing this on the miniscule amount of information the TV provides us with, but their routes seem unimaginative, and their running game is very vanilla. The lack of good routes seems to be supported by a fairly talented group of WR's (how weird it is to type that) never getting open. This isn't the team whose top wideout was a guy no other team would field as a number four any longer; the Bears have two legitimate WR's on the team (Marshall and Jeffrey), and a guy that can play well at this level in Bennett. These guys know how to run routes: they know how to get open, and for some reason, they're not getting open very often, and Jay is left forcing passes in to Marshall. Granted, some of that is on Jay locking in on Marshall, but I think if other guys were open, he'd throw to them. He threw plenty of passes to Scheffler and Royal out in Denver, and Marshall was there the whole time Jay was, so that leads me to believe he'd throw to other guys on this team if they got open more often. Granted, even if the Bears had great routes, the lack of effective offensive line play really limits what they're able to do. Realistically, they can't run routes that are more than 5-10 yards, because they cannot trust that line to hold up long enough to go for the deep ball. That allows safeties to cheat up toward the LOS, which really limits the space that the WR's have, which limits the windows Cutler has the ball to throw into. And then there's the problem of them being too enamoured with their new toys, so they keep trying to pass the ball like they're the Patriots or something, when they should be pounding the rock with Forte, who is averaging 4.7 ypc. So many problems with that offense, and they need to be fixed now, or they are not going to have a successful playoff run. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 20 2012 11:27 QuanticHawk wrote: i dont know if harbaugh fucks with a good thing if this continues (it is just barely 1 quarter) but I can def see next year being the end for smith. he has got a fucking cannon for an arm jesus though i do think that having that line/run game and the fact that the bears have no film on him does make a big difference It won't. Colin Kaepernick is the next Tom Brady. You'll believe me when the Niners win the Super Bowl. On a serious note, I don't think Kaepernick could have landed in a better situation. -Decent blocking -Best running game (statistically) in the NFL -Veteran receivers -One of the best TEs in the game -Amazing coaching staff Because of their good running game and great defense that won't blow leads, he probably won't have to deal with too many of those retarded 50+ passing attempt games either. On November 20 2012 13:22 xDaunt wrote: That is a really rough remaining schedule for the Bears. They could easily fall out of a playoff spot still. Oh no, they have to play the Vikings (twice), the Lions, the Cardinals, the Seahawks (5-0 at home, 1-4 on the road, and guess where the game is), and the Packers. If Cutler comes back next week (and is healthy), there's no way they don't have 11 wins by the end of the season, IMO. On November 20 2012 14:25 DannyJ wrote: Yeah but he's also one of their best athletes and receivers and he plays nearly every snap. Sure teams focus and double him a lot but they went 1 game where they didnt even target him and the others he was barely looked at. Tons (all) of elite players get defensive focus. Seems like a waste to me. If Vernon Davis is getting double covered, then that means one of the other receivers needs to get open and make a play. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On November 20 2012 15:35 tuho12345 wrote: little bias here, I think Smith still really consistent so let's not throw him off too fast :D Before smith got his concussion he had like 80 or so yards and a TD and the game before he played exceptional against a great pass defense in the cardinals(who like the bears have no offense, but unlike the bears have a real defense that doesn't need turn overs), so i wouldn't put a inexperienced qb out there as a starter mid-late season. But he's def someone that hardbaugh has been looking to develop. I doubt Alex has more then 2 seasons(counting this one) left as Niners starting qb, short of niners winning back to back superbowls. Just saying for at least this season unless Alex just bombs in games i wouldn't play Kaep over Alex, after all next game is away in the superdome against the saints. Alex beat brees in a shootout last year, or did we all forget? | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
about VD, the Niners wideouts have been getting open when he gets doubled. Crab's been solid this season. He is still not a stud wideout or anything, but he is capable of getting the job done now it seems. I actually don't think he'll ever be a stud wideout because he is really someone who works the underneath routes and stuff more than the deep balls. but he is very good at what he does and that's all that's needed in the Niners offense since they spread the ball so much. and jesus, Aldon Smith is insane. He has 15 sacks on the season at the moment. 29 for his career through 26 games. The next highest sack total on the team right now is four... good lord. Man, and I remember being pissed when they took him over a QB/OL haha. | ||
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PlanitDuck
United States36 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
On November 21 2012 01:26 PlanitDuck wrote: I had brief momentary flashes of glee watching the 49ers run over Chilo Rachal. There was a lot of teeth gnashing from the 49er fandom because of that man during the Singletary era. Yeah same haha. Fuck Chilo, that idiot. What's funny is he didn't look nearly as bad as those tackles. I think it was Smith's 4th sack or so, but he came flying at the tackle, did an insane stutter step and just bitch slapped the fat ass right out of the way and killed Campbell again. I really felt bad for Campbell lol | ||
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Sermokala
United States14017 Posts
Bears packers vikings all are gona be great games in this second half of the season. Can't wait. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
It's a miracle Cutler only got hurt twice in two years. Also i'm not convinced the Vikings can make a deep run in the playoffs. Their passing game looks a bit shaky still. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
At least the Bears have a really good D (last night not withstanding). GB had an insane passing offense. The Vikes D has a good pass rush, but what else? The offense has AP and Harvin but not much else. The Niner game was some good game planning and shit execution by SF. I don't see that happening against good teams again. Chicago and GB are both much better. I really can't see them hanging down the stretch here. Their schedule is brutal. If Cutler is out for Bears/Vikes I can see them lifting one off of Chicago at least. But def not off of GB or Houston. Those two teams have offenses that the Vikes can't keep up with. The Bears also have a rough schedule too. They're gonna get clobbered if they lose Cutler again. The bears, with that D, can def do stuff in the playoffs if they keep Cutler/Forte alive. GB, a passing attack like that with good pass rush can always be deadly. I don't see the Vikes doing much though. Seattle is starting to scare me though. I definitely thought they'd be a little worse. Russel aint half bad. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14017 Posts
The viks D doesn't blitz any more which is crazy seeing how many sacks and how much pressure they put on the qb at any time. this gives the pass coverage team a lot of guys to work with and its paying off a ton. running against Minnesota has always been a bad idea and that was the core of the 49ers attack. the Strengths of the vikings D perfectly matched against the 49ers offence and it would happen again if they played. the bears O is going to be suffed and Adrian is going to pull 7-8 guys into the box on good days which means the full pressure is going to be on ponder to do what Kaepernick just did. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On November 21 2012 02:04 Sermokala wrote: The game against the 49ers the viks used whats probably a one off offence that used a lot of mobile qb plays that streched the field and gave the wr's a lot of time to spread out the pass coverage. not to mention a ton of play action plays running with adrian and switching it off to harvan a ton. The viks D doesn't blitz any more which is crazy seeing how many sacks and how much pressure they put on the qb at any time. this gives the pass coverage team a lot of guys to work with and its paying off a ton. running against Minnesota has always been a bad idea and that was the core of the 49ers attack. the Strengths of the vikings D perfectly matched against the 49ers offence and it would happen again if they played. the bears O is going to be suffed and Adrian is going to pull 7-8 guys into the box on good days which means the full pressure is going to be on ponder to do what Kaepernick just did. I love the Vikings, have been a fan for years, but I don't see them making a deep playoff run. I actually believe they can split or possssssibly even sweep Chicago though. If Cutler's out that's a winnable game, the Vikings definitely win the battle of the lines, and Adrian Peterson can make any game close. The problem is really Ponder. The guy is overrated (and he's not even rated highly) and really holds the team back in my opinion. The one year the Vikings had decent quarterback play since AP came into the league they were a terrible interception and/or some questionable calls away from the superbowl. At this point, their run defense isn't dominant like it used to, Antoine Winfield is on the last leg of being a good cornerback, and Kevin Williams isn't the dream crushing defensive tackle he used to be. Matt Kalil was a great draft choice but this team is a legitimate vertical threat (sorry Jerome Simpson, front flips =/= talent) from being an offense worth any consideration. The Vikings will not win any game that Adrian Peterson doesn't take over this year, and GB's offense is likely to take his effectiveness away early by piling on points. Luckily for Minnesota, Houston may not have much to play for by the time the two teams meet. Nobody in the NFC East seems to want to play good football, so beyond Seattle and (dare I say it and get TwoTone's hopes up) New Orleans I don't see any non-NFC North team competing for a playoff spot. It's quite likely 3 teams from this division end up in the playoffs, though ultimately I sadly think Minnesota falls off | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
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