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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 12 2012 15:33 GMT
#521
On June 12 2012 13:21 Ulfsark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 00:58 Myles wrote:
On June 12 2012 00:47 Ulfsark wrote:
Can somebody explain to me in a simple fashion the difference between the types of levies?

The link Ramong posted shows the numerical difference which should tell you in what way each units excels, but in actual game play, it almost always come down to pure numbers. I can count the number of battles that didn't go to the larger army on one hand.



Ty I am more concerned with the difference between realm/personal/county levies etc

Sorry I did not specify.


Personal levies are what you raise from your holdings. If you press "E" you see a map of where your own holdings are. These levies you pay for yourself directly from your income.
Then there are vassal levies. How big they are depends on your laws (in the law tab you can make your vassals give you more soldiers, money etc, but they will dislike you for it), and how much they like you.
Realm levies are all the combined levies you can raise. This is usually what you want to do when at war.
County levies are the total levies - your own and your vassals - from one county. Raising levies from one realm is usually only used to beat down revolts.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Thauleris
Profile Joined November 2011
16 Posts
June 12 2012 16:43 GMT
#522
On June 01 2012 07:55 Chocolate wrote:


Onto my own question: How do you get a huge empire or kingdom while having the support of dukes? I try to keep my own duchies at 2 to prevent the penalty, but what do you do with ones that you conquer? Is there any way to get rid of them? Also, what's the best way to prevent 2 province de jure duchies from becoming real duchies? Dukes are becoming such a pain in my Aragon game...
If you stay a duke, and don't create yourself as a king, you're able to have as many dukedoms as you want. In one game I was the duke of alleppo, and ultimately had 25+ dukedoms concurrently with out any problem.As long as you make sure that your counts only have 1 county (and make sure that when you install new counts that they arn't ambitious), you shouldn't have problems with rebellion.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
June 12 2012 21:32 GMT
#523
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2012 00:33 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 13:21 Ulfsark wrote:
On June 12 2012 00:58 Myles wrote:
On June 12 2012 00:47 Ulfsark wrote:
Can somebody explain to me in a simple fashion the difference between the types of levies?

The link Ramong posted shows the numerical difference which should tell you in what way each units excels, but in actual game play, it almost always come down to pure numbers. I can count the number of battles that didn't go to the larger army on one hand.



Ty I am more concerned with the difference between realm/personal/county levies etc

Sorry I did not specify.


Personal levies are what you raise from your holdings. If you press "E" you see a map of where your own holdings are. These levies you pay for yourself directly from your income.
Then there are vassal levies. How big they are depends on your laws (in the law tab you can make your vassals give you more soldiers, money etc, but they will dislike you for it), and how much they like you.
Realm levies are all the combined levies you can raise. This is usually what you want to do when at war.
County levies are the total levies - your own and your vassals - from one county. Raising levies from one realm is usually only used to beat down revolts.



Thank you very much sir!
gg wp
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 15 2012 07:55 GMT
#524
Hmm. Could anyone by chance remind me of how to destroy a title?
The king of Bohemia revolted in his plot to lower crown authority, and lost. However, when I looked again, the capitol of Bohemia was in the hands of the emperor and there was no more kingdom. There was still a de jure kingdom, but that was all. No one held the title.
The old king of Bohemia was still alive and had a claim, but ofcourse he had no way to press it as the kingdom was dissolved.
How did this happen?
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
mpa
Profile Joined January 2009
50 Posts
June 15 2012 08:15 GMT
#525
Isnt it jus tthe normal "Revoke title" punishment for rebels ?
Pretty sure the guy could still press the claim.
Happens often enough when I land grab from the infidels. They will have claim for Caliphates that no longer exists.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
June 15 2012 10:27 GMT
#526
On June 15 2012 16:55 Euronyme wrote:
Hmm. Could anyone by chance remind me of how to destroy a title?
The king of Bohemia revolted in his plot to lower crown authority, and lost. However, when I looked again, the capitol of Bohemia was in the hands of the emperor and there was no more kingdom. There was still a de jure kingdom, but that was all. No one held the title.
The old king of Bohemia was still alive and had a claim, but ofcourse he had no way to press it as the kingdom was dissolved.
How did this happen?

From my understanding, the only way to destroy a title is to take the independant title holder's last county while using a CB that doesn't claim the title. For example, in my Byzantine game I won my war for the HRE throne and then gave the title of HRE to a single county Count. I then declared war with a claim on the county, but not the title of HRE itself, and when I took that county the HRE crown was destroyed and the HRE would assimilate into the ERE because of it.
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#527
On June 15 2012 19:27 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:55 Euronyme wrote:
Hmm. Could anyone by chance remind me of how to destroy a title?
The king of Bohemia revolted in his plot to lower crown authority, and lost. However, when I looked again, the capitol of Bohemia was in the hands of the emperor and there was no more kingdom. There was still a de jure kingdom, but that was all. No one held the title.
The old king of Bohemia was still alive and had a claim, but ofcourse he had no way to press it as the kingdom was dissolved.
How did this happen?

From my understanding, the only way to destroy a title is to take the independant title holder's last county while using a CB that doesn't claim the title. For example, in my Byzantine game I won my war for the HRE throne and then gave the title of HRE to a single county Count. I then declared war with a claim on the county, but not the title of HRE itself, and when I took that county the HRE crown was destroyed and the HRE would assimilate into the ERE because of it.


Oh yes right.
Thanks!
The easiest way to do it is probably to give it to a baron in one of your counties
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 15 2012 13:24 GMT
#528
in ck2 pluss you can only hold two duchies as a king + before you start pissing people off
ck2 vanilla is too easy if ur not being retarded

fortunately i am retarded, thats why i play ck2 plus

ex. become a welsh heretic. you've been beating up england pretty good, so you think its time to take london. you declare war, see an english army, and crush it...

killing the english king...

and the scottish king, whom was in the same stack (they joined the war)...

meaning both their crowns went to the king of castille and leon...

yeah that was fun.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
June 15 2012 16:34 GMT
#529
On June 15 2012 21:28 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 19:27 Myles wrote:
On June 15 2012 16:55 Euronyme wrote:
Hmm. Could anyone by chance remind me of how to destroy a title?
The king of Bohemia revolted in his plot to lower crown authority, and lost. However, when I looked again, the capitol of Bohemia was in the hands of the emperor and there was no more kingdom. There was still a de jure kingdom, but that was all. No one held the title.
The old king of Bohemia was still alive and had a claim, but ofcourse he had no way to press it as the kingdom was dissolved.
How did this happen?

From my understanding, the only way to destroy a title is to take the independant title holder's last county while using a CB that doesn't claim the title. For example, in my Byzantine game I won my war for the HRE throne and then gave the title of HRE to a single county Count. I then declared war with a claim on the county, but not the title of HRE itself, and when I took that county the HRE crown was destroyed and the HRE would assimilate into the ERE because of it.


Oh yes right.
Thanks!
The easiest way to do it is probably to give it to a baron in one of your counties

I don't think it would work with a baron since they can't be indepedant. I think it has to be a count. On the other hand, the latest dev diary said the next patch with make duke titles and above destroyable, but cost presitige and -50 de jure vassal opinion.
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
June 16 2012 05:31 GMT
#530
After playing the game for 10-15 hours, I decided to try the GoT mod. I started as a "High Lord" - a duke in normal terms. I had claim to the Duchy, but controlled only one of two counties in the Duchy. Where it's way easy for the Lords Paramount to start wars, I am about 30 years in and not a sniff of being able to start a winnable dispute. This sort of makes sense in the GoT world, where vassals of each Lord Paramount are pretty much in their place. Also, no Fabricated Claims have appeared yet, pretty frustrating. As far as accuracy and truth to the GoT world, this mod is pretty cool. I suspect bringing up my little house to anything of importance will take a freaking long time. (4 children across 3 player-characters hasn't helped either!)
Hi Mom
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 16 2012 09:32 GMT
#531
On June 16 2012 14:31 sharkeyanti wrote:
After playing the game for 10-15 hours, I decided to try the GoT mod. I started as a "High Lord" - a duke in normal terms. I had claim to the Duchy, but controlled only one of two counties in the Duchy. Where it's way easy for the Lords Paramount to start wars, I am about 30 years in and not a sniff of being able to start a winnable dispute. This sort of makes sense in the GoT world, where vassals of each Lord Paramount are pretty much in their place. Also, no Fabricated Claims have appeared yet, pretty frustrating. As far as accuracy and truth to the GoT world, this mod is pretty cool. I suspect bringing up my little house to anything of importance will take a freaking long time. (4 children across 3 player-characters hasn't helped either!)


Yeah the forge claim thing is really fishy in GoT mod. In my first play, I got 6-7 forged claims within a couple of years. In the second one I've been forging for 200 years or so without success.

It was also in the game of thrones mod I had the problem with the destruction of titles.
The AI manages to do it, but when I do it myself, the AI lord paramount just gets another county holding - and on it goes.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
June 16 2012 17:53 GMT
#532
On June 16 2012 18:32 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:31 sharkeyanti wrote:
After playing the game for 10-15 hours, I decided to try the GoT mod. I started as a "High Lord" - a duke in normal terms. I had claim to the Duchy, but controlled only one of two counties in the Duchy. Where it's way easy for the Lords Paramount to start wars, I am about 30 years in and not a sniff of being able to start a winnable dispute. This sort of makes sense in the GoT world, where vassals of each Lord Paramount are pretty much in their place. Also, no Fabricated Claims have appeared yet, pretty frustrating. As far as accuracy and truth to the GoT world, this mod is pretty cool. I suspect bringing up my little house to anything of importance will take a freaking long time. (4 children across 3 player-characters hasn't helped either!)


Yeah the forge claim thing is really fishy in GoT mod. In my first play, I got 6-7 forged claims within a couple of years. In the second one I've been forging for 200 years or so without success.

It was also in the game of thrones mod I had the problem with the destruction of titles.
The AI manages to do it, but when I do it myself, the AI lord paramount just gets another county holding - and on it goes.


The addition of knighting is a nice touch as well. But the lack of religious fiefs in just about every region of the map makes religion essentially void. It'd be nice if there were at least a local septon or something to add something of interest. Religion would only seem to matter in overlap zones, and then it might as well be some secondary culture.
Hi Mom
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 16 2012 22:58 GMT
#533
Has anyone tried destroying the Iron Throne? Is this possible? I'd like the map to be only paramounts. Mainly because I bloody hate the map mode as a paramount, and even worse as the emperor.
I've been experimenting destroying the Westerlands as the Reach, but every single time I take Casterley rock, which is the only current Lannister holding, they just get some other random county.
As far as I understand it, that's the way to go though. If you take every holding from the paramount, the title is destroyed.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
June 17 2012 15:23 GMT
#534
Id imagine it's purposefully extremely difficult considering the absurdly long reigns of Westerosi houses.
Hi Mom
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 17 2012 17:06 GMT
#535
Seriously, read this thread
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3487258&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=24
All of it.
I can't even believe how much I've learned after reading it from start to finish. That guy, kersch, is freaking amazing at the game and at expkaining it.
You should also keep yourselves up to date on CK2+, an awesome mod developed by Wiz (those of you who played other Paradox games should know him). It makes the game much better.
He usually posts his updates here.

Have fun
Religion: Buckethead
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12063 Posts
June 17 2012 18:03 GMT
#536
What would be a good country/ruler for a first game, and which settings are recommended? I am pretty experienced in EU3, but have not played CK2 so far.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 18:18:20
June 17 2012 18:07 GMT
#537
On June 18 2012 03:03 Simberto wrote:
What would be a good country/ruler for a first game, and which settings are recommended? I am pretty experienced in EU3, but have not played CK2 so far.

The duke of Barcelona is pretty fun. You start out with three baronies in a single county and can declare de jure war on a nearby Muslim ruler that you are guaranteed to win. The count of Dublin is one of the best rulers to start off as to become king of Ireland, if that's your goal, because you inherit one nearby county since the count is your father. The Duchy of Apulia is fun because you have a lot of diversity in your vassals and can become the king very early. You are also in a good position to take much of Northern Africa.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#538
or you could be a man like me and pick the count of lubeck, a christian ruler in a pagan land surrounded by the hre and angry heathens with 5 warrior cults and a claim on you
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#539
The easiest duchy to begin with is hands down Munster. The entirety of the British Islands is like a "newbie island", but Munster is the easiest. Give it a try.
Religion: Buckethead
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
June 17 2012 19:57 GMT
#540
Is there a mod that will let me play as pagans? I really want to play as a pagan but the game won't let me sadly.
gg wp
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