• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:40
CET 20:40
KST 04:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-184Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises0Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1408 users

The King of Fighters XIII Thread (Now on Steam) - Page 4

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 13 14 15 Next All
The Official 2013 Fighting Games Thread

Official TL KOF PC Steam Group
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 22 2012 22:09 GMT
#61
I saw some of the VODs of tournament play.

Beside what I think is sloppy play (maybe I am biased; I am super-old school who only play 98), I find this game to be very odd and imbalanced. It seems that some characters, such as King, Raiden, and Kula, when at maxed gauge, can punish an opponent so severely that it made the final set extremely volatile (one wrong move and you are dead).

What is difficult about the old KoFs is the initialization of chains (I call these 'confirmation'). For example, Mary, Chris, and Terry can pull off chains easily because their close C -> 6A are pretty slow, giving the player enough time to see if his opponent actually blocked it or not and divide whether or not to proceed. Other ones, such as '02 Yuri, needs to rely on 2B -> 2A which is much shorter and must follow by 623C*2 which is risky if blocked, so chaining is harder.


Unfortunately, these super-imba cancels in KoF 13 are very easy to pull off - because when you make such a chain you already had a long sequence of moves to confirm that you have hit your opponent. After that it's just a set of mechanical input. Kind of like Rage of the Dragons!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
January 22 2012 22:29 GMT
#62
On January 23 2012 07:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I saw some of the VODs of tournament play.

Beside what I think is sloppy play (maybe I am biased; I am super-old school who only play 98), I find this game to be very odd and imbalanced. It seems that some characters, such as King, Raiden, and Kula, when at maxed gauge, can punish an opponent so severely that it made the final set extremely volatile (one wrong move and you are dead).

What is difficult about the old KoFs is the initialization of chains (I call these 'confirmation'). For example, Mary, Chris, and Terry can pull off chains easily because their close C -> 6A are pretty slow, giving the player enough time to see if his opponent actually blocked it or not and divide whether or not to proceed. Other ones, such as '02 Yuri, needs to rely on 2B -> 2A which is much shorter and must follow by 623C*2 which is risky if blocked, so chaining is harder.


Unfortunately, these super-imba cancels in KoF 13 are very easy to pull off - because when you make such a chain you already had a long sequence of moves to confirm that you have hit your opponent. After that it's just a set of mechanical input. Kind of like Rage of the Dragons!


So your judging the balance of the game based off of vods you have seen? I'm guessing you haven't actually played the game because if you did you would see that everyone is just about viable and nothing comes easy my friend.
Twitter: @KingKosi
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
January 22 2012 23:38 GMT
#63
haha, sounds like you saw vods of the arcade version as well. The stuff you're complaining about got nerfed when they rebalanced things for console lol

I don't understand your paragraph on hit confirms at all. You're complaining that more than 3 characters can hit confirm combos?

And are you really surprised that the level of play isn't as refined in a brand new game as the 12 year old predecessor?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#64
oh snap was checking stream out while giants/niners game on commercial and tl's own ginseng is playing atm (!)
Forever Young
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
January 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#65
http://www.twitch.tv/iplaywinner
Ginseng playing right now!
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
January 23 2012 00:45 GMT
#66
Word? Ginseng fighting!
Twitter: @KingKosi
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
January 23 2012 00:49 GMT
#67
DAAAAMN lost in the last match on last character. Ginseng your ryo is a slacker :[
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
January 23 2012 02:14 GMT
#68
Damn Haunts was salty as fuck! Throwing the stick down and everything.
Twitter: @KingKosi
Mistapibb
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
January 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#69
how many people play this game online? I'm asking cuz I may not have friends to play this game with, so I'd like to know if I could still entertain myself with just matchmaking. Thanks
It's Moldy
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 03:48:45
January 23 2012 03:48 GMT
#70
On January 23 2012 11:58 Mistapibb wrote:
how many people play this game online? I'm asking cuz I may not have friends to play this game with, so I'd like to know if I could still entertain myself with just matchmaking. Thanks


online is really bad, although i do find it playable with green/blue bars ppl. hard part is finding said ppl :/
although this game is sooooooo good i would get it regardless. not only is an online patch to fix netcode coming, but from my opinion, i've had more fun playing this game than playing AE/2012+mvc3/umvc3 all combined. plus the game came out only for 40 bucks!

edit: anybody know how far they are in the tournament atm?
Forever Young
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
January 23 2012 03:53 GMT
#71
On January 23 2012 12:48 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:58 Mistapibb wrote:
how many people play this game online? I'm asking cuz I may not have friends to play this game with, so I'd like to know if I could still entertain myself with just matchmaking. Thanks


online is really bad, although i do find it playable with green/blue bars ppl. hard part is finding said ppl :/
although this game is sooooooo good i would get it regardless. not only is an online patch to fix netcode coming, but from my opinion, i've had more fun playing this game than playing AE/2012+mvc3/umvc3 all combined. plus the game came out only for 40 bucks!

edit: anybody know how far they are in the tournament atm?


It's over, finals was MichaelX vs El Gallo Negro and MichaelX won.
Twitter: @KingKosi
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
January 23 2012 06:32 GMT
#72
On January 23 2012 09:49 Trumpet wrote:
DAAAAMN lost in the last match on last character. Ginseng your ryo is a slacker :[


Ffffffffffffffffffffff I should have played casuals to get used to input lag. What do you mean I couldn't safejump King's EX Crack Shot?
Contact me via the following: Twitter: @notginseng | Discord: Ginseng#9638
Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
January 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#73
So I gave in and bought kof. Now i just have to figure out what im doing.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:30:14
January 25 2012 00:29 GMT
#74
ok kof13 online matchmaking makes no sense. i specifically put my settings to lvl 3 or higher (green/blue bars), and yet still ppl witt red bars somehow join my game

i know i shouldn't be playing randoms online like this but still wth lol

and also i thought clark's command grab-> qcf+p was drivecancelable into his super???

edit: ok nvm it's ex only that can do that
Forever Young
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 25 2012 21:15 GMT
#75


mmmm only saw the last 3 vids (finals) and seemed like some good stuff
oh yea the recording for the last starbase arcade kof13 ranbat w/ ginseng (he plays his first match at 1:18:00)


also thinking of swapping shen for saeki on my team. always wanted to play a zoner, but this guy's corner dmg is CRAZY. i also love any character that can cancel their sweep (a good one at that!) into a fireball. plus his neomax is kewl
Forever Young
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
January 30 2012 19:42 GMT
#76
just got done a crazy ft10 on xbl that went down to the last match, and I learned a ton. this games online isn't anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be. I should have been grinding online matches this whole time D:

trying to make mental notes of common patterns that people have, like doing wakeup dp's after losing air to air etc. Hoping with enough practice I won't get totally scraped at final round
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
January 31 2012 02:31 GMT
#77
KOFXIII Ranbat 5.1 at Arcade UFO was streamed a couple days ago (Live Stream archive)
Watch out for Deadman (AKA MCMcEmcee)!
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 31 2012 03:34 GMT
#78
woot woot mcmcmc

and i just now realized how easy clark is to pick up lol
Forever Young
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
January 31 2012 04:57 GMT
#79
f pachi actually did it
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
January 31 2012 05:27 GMT
#80
On January 31 2012 12:34 sung_moon wrote:
woot woot mcmcmc

and i just now realized how easy clark is to pick up lol


I love Duff Man! Lol
Twitter: @KingKosi
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
17:30
Mini Rotti Monday
RotterdaM842
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 842
Harstem 352
mouzHeroMarine 324
UpATreeSC 98
RushiSC 91
JuggernautJason50
ProTech35
DivinesiaTV 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 551
Shuttle 435
BeSt 118
Dewaltoss 106
sorry 72
Sexy 45
ggaemo 26
NaDa 10
Dota 2
qojqva3590
BananaSlamJamma239
League of Legends
C9.Mang0192
Counter-Strike
fl0m1280
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu357
Other Games
Grubby5877
FrodaN1097
Beastyqt922
ceh9537
B2W.Neo308
Fuzer 292
ArmadaUGS173
QueenE124
BRAT_OK 59
Trikslyr48
MindelVK15
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 250
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 34
• 80smullet 11
• HerbMon 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV793
Other Games
• imaqtpie1899
• Shiphtur219
Upcoming Events
OSC
16h 20m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.