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manloveman
Profile Joined April 2011
424 Posts
July 08 2012 00:55 GMT
#21
This is an awesome game. Having so much fun. Hardsuit yeah!
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
July 08 2012 01:34 GMT
#22
I used to play this a while ago but it got boring for me around level 25. Still, if enough people start playing, I might go back, though personally, I feel the balance of the guns and items is horrible.
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
July 08 2012 12:27 GMT
#23
On July 07 2012 18:27 Qbek wrote:
Great game, very good (not perfect, the guns are a bit overpriced) f2p model. I love how much customization there is, shame I don't really mass game games now so the renting is a bit meh for me :/ But as TB said, the game is much more balanced and fair than it should be


there really is no reason to use your game money on gun parts. The premade ones you can buy for 200GP per day are very good so better keep your money for armor parts.
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
July 08 2012 13:12 GMT
#24
I played it on and off for the past week and I have to say it's pretty good for being f2p. The starting rifle works well enough that I don't feel like I'm getting shafted by not spending money on stuff.

Only two gripes are that it's incredibly easy and that the ttk is really, really low.
Might makes right.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
July 08 2012 13:41 GMT
#25
you should play Red Orchestra sometimes then you know really low ttk ^^
but yeah when you are used to games like Battlefield it can be tough in the beginning and takes some time to get used to.
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
July 08 2012 21:06 GMT
#26
Whether it's easy or not depends on your opponents, like in every PvP game?
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
July 08 2012 21:14 GMT
#27
I really like the way you buy parts to make a gun, and all the different stats. The parts are pretty damn expensive to buy permanently though, I've just been renting and trying stuff out.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
July 08 2012 21:18 GMT
#28
Whenever I try to adjust the Video setting on this game, my computer crashes.

I'm playing on Steam, for reference.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 08 2012 23:47 GMT
#29
This game has the most ridiculously annoying UI...
Jukulmolder
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain254 Posts
July 09 2012 00:01 GMT
#30
been playing it for a few days on steam, and gotta say it's quite a good and fun game for a f2p.
"IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE"
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 09 2012 01:19 GMT
#31
Word of warning for people who are getting started. I played the game before it went to steam and it is/was very fun, but the only problem I had was if you were to go completely free to play the "renting" gun/equipment parts can get semi-frustrating. This is especially common after taking breaks from the game.

(you could buy permanent, but when you level up fairly regularly and new gear gets unlocked you have to rebuy)

TL;DR picking up the game a playing it after not playing it for awhile becomes a f2p currency sink.

FADC
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 02:38:31
July 09 2012 02:35 GMT
#32
I'm not sure if they have actually balanced anything since I last played, but if you're going to go for new weapons, the Heavy Assault Rifle and Burst Fire Rifle were basically considered the "overpowered" guns.

The Heavy Assault Rifle could be made to 3-shot every single build possible and the only drawbacks are spread, recoil, and fire rate. Spread there is no remedy for besides limiting your spraying. Recoil on the HAR is strictly vertical so gently pull down on your mouse and it basically doesn't exist. The fire rate is slightly lower than the AR and definitely slower the the SMG so try to limit extreme close quarter combat.

The Burst Fire Rifle could never be made to to kill in a single burst but will also never take more than two bursts, so building for damage is useless. With a few high level parts, the spread (when scoped in) could be reduced to zero for two consecutive bursts. Also, it shoots the bursts ridiculously fast which is why people consider it overpowered.

The Combat Rifle is tricky since it can beat the AR at long range and the sniper in close range, but in practice, it's not worth it except for a challenge.

The sniper is 100% accurate when fully scoped (even when moving) and it used to be possible to make it act like an AWP from CS but I'm not sure if they patched it. I don't know exactly how much mine did but it was slightly more than 200 so it can one-shot people with no armor.

I never touched the SMGs and I don't care for the AR.

Also, add me as Resisty in-game and I'll come back and play with you guys :D
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
July 09 2012 08:45 GMT
#33
On July 09 2012 06:06 3772 wrote:
Whether it's easy or not depends on your opponents, like in every PvP game?


No, it's easy in the way that there's not much to the gameplay. Not a whole lot to master.

Still fun, at any rate.
Might makes right.
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
July 09 2012 13:50 GMT
#34
I think it changed a bit, because I'm able to one shot (some) people with burst rifle, if the third bullet hits the head (depends on gear?). Burst rifles seem to be a bit underused and not that strong, at close range you get owned by SMGs, and combat/sniper beat you at long range. I have taken to using knife/nade in close quarters instead of trying to shoot against ARs/SMGs.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
July 09 2012 17:12 GMT
#35
On July 09 2012 22:50 3772 wrote:
I think it changed a bit, because I'm able to one shot (some) people with burst rifle, if the third bullet hits the head (depends on gear?). Burst rifles seem to be a bit underused and not that strong, at close range you get owned by SMGs, and combat/sniper beat you at long range. I have taken to using knife/nade in close quarters instead of trying to shoot against ARs/SMGs.


I forgot to mention I only took bodyshots into account, but yeah, the if the third shot is a headshot than it's one burst. I do disagree about it not being strong, unless it was nerfed recently in which case, my rating is invalid :p
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 17:33:31
July 09 2012 17:27 GMT
#36
Currently downloading the game. Some questions:


How good off are starting players compared to others? If the game is server-based, what disadvantages do starting players have compared to level 20-30 people?

How good are Snipers in the game compared to other weapons? As a competitive Team Fortress 2 player (Moving up to division 4 in ETF2L next season if somebody cares), I expect Snipers to be ridiculously hard to use but ridiculously powerful on any range. How valid is my thinking?

How good is Cloak? It seems to me that it's simply a must-have. That said I haven't played the game yet, only watched a couple videos.


I can see the game having some potential for competitive play if the balance is correct.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 17:43:57
July 09 2012 17:36 GMT
#37
High level people have more health and their guns are more accurate or do more damage. They also have access to higher level depot items which are items that can be bought during a match. These items may include building turrets, calling airstrikes, and shooting huge rockets. That being said, it's still a FPS game, so skill is the main deciding factor. The mech suit is also free to everyone and is incredibly strong if no one tries to take it out.

I'm not very good at sniping but it would seem you can't really quick scope the way other games might let you. You only get the proper accuracy when fully scoped in. However, once scoped, the gun is perfectly accurate whether you move or jump i.e. a laser.

Cloak is actually pretty average in my opinion. There will be an outline flicker when you move and are close to enemies and this is magnified if you try to run. The cloak is a separate weapon slot, so you can't actually shoot while cloaked; you'll have to switch weapons and fire in the few seconds where you are still partially invisible. Additionally, cloaked people are actually visible (and even highlighted!) when people go into HRV which is basically legal in-game wallhacks.
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 09 2012 17:43 GMT
#38
I'd just like to point out that there are hardly any items which give a straight up bonus. Usually there is a trade off between damage, spread, recoil, run speed, reload time, etc. So a guy with more health WILL be moving slower and have less HRV time/ slower HRV recharge.


What does annoy me is the ttk. It's ridiculously low (or maybe I've been spoilt by bf3).
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 18:08:09
July 09 2012 18:01 GMT
#39
I guess I have something to prove wrong then...

It's really sad tho. I mean I'm all for destroying people who have better gear than I do but really, having competitive FPS experience(not high level but still), 25-50 more health counts... A damn lot. I'm not really fond of facing almost direct copies of myself that simply have more stats than I do.

I guess I can take that as a challenge.


Edit:
On July 10 2012 02:43 greggy wrote:
I'd just like to point out that there are hardly any items which give a straight up bonus. Usually there is a trade off between damage, spread, recoil, run speed, reload time, etc. So a guy with more health WILL be moving slower and have less HRV time/ slower HRV recharge.


What does annoy me is the ttk. It's ridiculously low (or maybe I've been spoilt by bf3).



TTK? What's that?


Otherwise that is good news although I wonder how much value stats have compared to each other. I assume unlike in TF2, you can't really dodge damage if you are faster so run speed doesn't matter a lot unless you can kill people before they kill you. I probably don't know enough to make judgements.

I really need to play the game to test this as I mostly play fast characters or Snipers.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 18:15:18
July 09 2012 18:14 GMT
#40


Here a guy playing with pure starter gear, though he is considered one of the best players :p
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
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