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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11792 Posts
November 23 2011 01:36 GMT
#181
Do you usually play with some mods? Because you get some data wrong. Church Attendance Duty is -33% Stability Cost, and Shrewd Commerce Practice is only +10% Compete chance. Not that that is really important to your point, i just noticed you mentioning those values a lot.

I usually don't take CAD, or if i take it, i just use it to enact Gilded Iconography and then switch out of it. However, i also usually don't change NIs often, or start Wars without CBs. In this situation, it surely adds to our flexibility. And we will probably have pretty high Stability costs anyways for quite some time, since most of our provinces are of the wrong culture. Plus it makes the reformation much easier to deal with, and Papal Influence is always a good thing to have.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 02:09:21
November 23 2011 02:03 GMT
#182
too much D&T fucking with my head and im probably confusing tarrifs with compete chance a lot

either way still best NI!

caller why did you declare war on austira? the funny thing is its actually an auto win as they cant attack us but still. it was fun for me to start with a weirdly done country with 5 peoples conflicting ideas meshing. made it interesting considering that 90% of my games look the same with the same ni's. i also really enjoyed talking about all this and watching the thread: (

AND HOW COME YOU LOST BALAERICS TO ARAGON?!!?
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
November 23 2011 02:04 GMT
#183
I'm here, finally my turn :D, I'll take time to read and look at all that has happened.
be back to you tomorrow I think.
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 06:03:45
November 23 2011 06:02 GMT
#184
On November 23 2011 11:03 turdburgler wrote:
too much D&T fucking with my head and im probably confusing tarrifs with compete chance a lot

either way still best NI!

caller why did you declare war on austira? the funny thing is its actually an auto win as they cant attack us but still. it was fun for me to start with a weirdly done country with 5 peoples conflicting ideas meshing. made it interesting considering that 90% of my games look the same with the same ni's. i also really enjoyed talking about all this and watching the thread: (

AND HOW COME YOU LOST BALAERICS TO ARAGON?!!?

wait, we owned balaerics? i white peaced with aragon so i'm not sure how that happened.

Just checked replay, apparently they defected. Oops. Guess you gotta DoW them.

also is there any reason why our national focus was messina? like two provinces get the bonus that way. I moved it to thrace so i could do settlement policy/get more provinces national focus bonus.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 08:04:29
November 23 2011 08:03 GMT
#185
That national focus was allready there as i played but i couldn't move it during my term (+ there was no good place to but it back then) .


Btw: Whats all that bitching about "high" inflation. IIRC it was over 10 for some time in the beginning (which bought us naval supremancy) and after that allways under 10? Where is the problem with that?
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 23 2011 08:36 GMT
#186
On November 23 2011 17:03 Velr wrote:
That national focus was allready there as i played but i couldn't move it during my term (+ there was no good place to but it back then) .


Btw: Whats all that bitching about "high" inflation. IIRC it was over 10 for some time in the beginning (which bought us naval supremancy) and after that allways under 10? Where is the problem with that?

because high inflation slows down our tech and i was forced to spend a lot of budget on crushing inflation. I would've ideally liked to expand the size of the military and especially the navy, as after the war with aragon (where pretty much all of the galleys got sunk by their high amount of large/small ships) we were stuck with just a mediocre amount of caravels and transports. For a nation that absolutely needs a naval presence, this is suicide.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 09:06:23
November 23 2011 09:01 GMT
#187
Yes.. But ~5 isn't high and the massive income is giving us an advantage when teching anyway?

Btw: I personally hate Naval oriented empires, i normally just put armies everywhere and don't care about ships at all :p. I understand that it's needed as Sicilly.. because sicilly is a stupid Island but else? It's a reason for me to never capture Islands ^^.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 09:18:09
November 23 2011 09:17 GMT
#188
i had wars with aragon, milan, jalyrids, timurids, savoy + castille, not to mention rebels friggin everywhere. i spent a LOT of time shuffling crap around with my navy.

oh well, at least when we inherit savoy, we'll get like 10 free cores (colonies), including liguria. OMNOMNOMNOM.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11792 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 10:24:55
November 23 2011 10:24 GMT
#189
Seriously, Caller. When you got the nation the inflation was at 3.3. That is not "High Inflation that is crippingly slowing out tech" Especially since we double the next ones income, i think we can live with that. It only got to 10 once because one guys sadly decided that taking inflation from events would be a good idea, and everyone afterwards reduced it by a bit. My usual reaction to that kind of inflation is to just play as i normally would and mint about 0.01-0.02 under my limit, so it will slowly go away. Or just wait for Slider moves towards free Subjects.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 23 2011 10:28 GMT
#190
On November 23 2011 19:24 Simberto wrote:
Seriously, Caller. When you got the nation the inflation was at 3.3. That is not "High Inflation that is crippingly slowing out tech" Especially since we double the next ones income, i think we can live with that. It only got to 10 once because one guys sadly decided that taking inflation from events would be a good idea, and everyone afterwards reduced it by a bit. My usual reaction to that kind of inflation is to just play as i normally would and mint about 0.01-0.02 under my limit, so it will slowly go away. Or just wait for Slider moves towards free Subjects.

TECH FOR THE TECH GOD
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
November 23 2011 10:40 GMT
#191
Are we actually arguing over something or is this some kind of inside joke i don't get? i thought things were/are really fun :/
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 23 2011 10:43 GMT
#192
sorry i'm still in death and taxes mode, where if you have 0 inflation you get a nice -1.00 to revolt risk and 10% tax effiency, so I have zero tolerance for inflation.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
November 23 2011 11:07 GMT
#193
On November 23 2011 19:40 nttea wrote:
Are we actually arguing over something or is this some kind of inside joke i don't get? i thought things were/are really fun :/



EU3 is srs bsns! :D

Btw: 20 years felt a little short to play... If you want to do something you basically need to hurry like mad.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 16:49:39
November 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#194
i liked the 20 years. it meant i could just hop on and play my go and report back to you all, and the chances are we can just continue the game and everyone gets a second turn.

any longer and it would feel too much like "mine" and it would lose the interesting part of seeing other peoples influence.

i didnt even notice our national focus was in a weird place, wasnt interested in moving it. thrace is a good choice to move it, 15 base tax or something? getting that to be an accepted culture is a nice move
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
November 23 2011 13:04 GMT
#195
Sorry guys but starting tomorrow I will be busy for a while again so I wont be able to play. As far as I can see youre doing a better job than I would have done anyway.. defeating ottomans with sicily this early on hard is pretty impressive imo.

Anyway, put me off the list for a while. Ill still be here to watch and to give my comments tho...

On November 23 2011 08:37 Ramong wrote:
We need to make a bigger navy, the next in line need to focus on that somewhat :p

It will help us against France, Aragon and pretty much everybody else. But most importantly it will make Venice invulnerable against Austria

I think 1 ship is more than enough to make Venice invulnerable against Austria. But against France England etc a navy is needed for sure.
4649!!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11792 Posts
November 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#196
On November 23 2011 22:04 Robinsa wrote:
Sorry guys but starting tomorrow I will be busy for a while again so I wont be able to play. As far as I can see youre doing a better job than I would have done anyway.. defeating ottomans with sicily this early on hard is pretty impressive imo.

Anyway, put me off the list for a while. Ill still be here to watch and to give my comments tho...

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 08:37 Ramong wrote:
We need to make a bigger navy, the next in line need to focus on that somewhat :p

It will help us against France, Aragon and pretty much everybody else. But most importantly it will make Venice invulnerable against Austria

I think 1 ship is more than enough to make Venice invulnerable against Austria. But against France England etc a navy is needed for sure.


Nah, Austria got some ports pretty early on, but their Navy is still not really menacing.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
November 23 2011 13:33 GMT
#197
On November 23 2011 22:08 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 22:04 Robinsa wrote:
Sorry guys but starting tomorrow I will be busy for a while again so I wont be able to play. As far as I can see youre doing a better job than I would have done anyway.. defeating ottomans with sicily this early on hard is pretty impressive imo.

Anyway, put me off the list for a while. Ill still be here to watch and to give my comments tho...

On November 23 2011 08:37 Ramong wrote:
We need to make a bigger navy, the next in line need to focus on that somewhat :p

It will help us against France, Aragon and pretty much everybody else. But most importantly it will make Venice invulnerable against Austria

I think 1 ship is more than enough to make Venice invulnerable against Austria. But against France England etc a navy is needed for sure.


Nah, Austria got some ports pretty early on, but their Navy is still not really menacing.

Yeah but their sliders are set to land + they never go for any Navy NI's. Also, I dont think the provinces they got actually got ports but you have to build them if you want them I think.. Not sure of that tho.
4649!!
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4747 Posts
November 23 2011 14:29 GMT
#198
On November 23 2011 15:02 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 11:03 turdburgler wrote:
too much D&T fucking with my head and im probably confusing tarrifs with compete chance a lot

either way still best NI!

caller why did you declare war on austira? the funny thing is its actually an auto win as they cant attack us but still. it was fun for me to start with a weirdly done country with 5 peoples conflicting ideas meshing. made it interesting considering that 90% of my games look the same with the same ni's. i also really enjoyed talking about all this and watching the thread: (

AND HOW COME YOU LOST BALAERICS TO ARAGON?!!?

wait, we owned balaerics? i white peaced with aragon so i'm not sure how that happened.

Just checked replay, apparently they defected. Oops. Guess you gotta DoW them.

also is there any reason why our national focus was messina? like two provinces get the bonus that way. I moved it to thrace so i could do settlement policy/get more provinces national focus bonus.



I moved it back there to enact:
Expanded buerocracy
Formalized scales wages and measures.
Pathetic Greta hater.
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 19:51:00
November 23 2011 19:09 GMT
#199
I have Played for a few years, I can give you a short recap, I will finish tonight.
Started The game At war with Austria, Hansa and other smaller countries. I cleared the rebels marching in our territories while sending troops to annoy Austria. Didn't even notice at first we had soldiers in Venice, that helped later :-).
I managed to avoid the bulk of their troops to take half their territory along with Poland. They accepted to surrender and to free Styria, and Styria accepted our protective wings. They are now our Vassals. Yemen declared war at the same time for no reason, and payed 50 gold for peace.
We are now at peace, it's around 1580, with 0 inflation, we are relatively rich (more than 1500 gold and I still keep our magistrates count under 5) with no real target in sight. I see that you guys didn't focus at all on colonization so we are really stuck in the middle east with no real way to expand. Bohemia is so huge and I will not piss them off, and I'm not really sure where to expand anymore.

Any ideas for possible wars? Should I try push into timurid lands, re-attack austria because they are at war with France and quite busy, or else? (sorry i couldn't post screen shots right now I write this from my laptop and I play the game on my other computer). I could try to free Hungary from Austria to really break them too...
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4747 Posts
November 23 2011 19:24 GMT
#200
Lets clarify one thing 1500 maybe is rich, but not INSANELY RICH In truth its far away from that.
Pathetic Greta hater.
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