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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-31 18:20:34
April 09 2005 09:23 GMT
#1
Ok, now since we have 5 tl.netters there and some of them are new to the game I will explain the basics here:


1. What is this all about?

CSM is an online browser game where you manage your Counter Strike clan. Just like in every other manager you have several features, here I am going to explain the basics:

a) Season, league and games

One season lasts for 50 days. During this time you will play 30 league games and should play around 100 PCW games (this may vary according to different circumstances). League games take part monday-friday while PCW games you can play every day. League games are played at 19:30 CET (varies for different countries). I am not sure but even without paying for it you can watch league games in 2D-live what is very useful since you can adjust your tactics and stuff.

For each league game won you get 2 points, drawn 1 point and lost 0 points. Your position in the league depends on the number of points, if those are equal for several clans then RW/RL(rounds won/rounds lost) order decides. After the season ends 2 best clans go to higher league and 4 worst drop down to lower league.

PCW games are friendly challenges between clans, during this events your players get some experience and increase in skills.

The games itself last 24 turns, each clan plays 12 turns as terrorists and 12 as counter terrorists. First round is always pistol round (players are armed only with pistols), this is very important since when you lose pistol round your clan will perform eco round next (they're armed with pistols again while enemy has better weapons) what leads to another loss in most cases. For more details go and see 'game engine specifications' to be found on the right side of page.

b) Players

Each clan should have at least 6 players (5 as primary squad and 6th as a stand-in in case of the injury)(injuries may occur only when the players are in red fitness <40%).

How to choose players - at what you should look first when trying to buy a player from transferlist etc:

1. age - younger = better, a player gains 1 year of age with every season, when they are around 30 they will most likely retire. Also younger players train skills faster.

2. talent - it decides of maximum player potential (maximum skills)

3. special attributes - do not under any circumstances take players that reduce your media rating, give -x% to other players/themselves etc. those that are bad leaders or sth you may take as long as you won't use them in this role.

4. skills - here you must decide on your own but most important are: aim, quickness, calmness, teamplay, playing iq, awareness, handling (not exactly in this order except for aim which is most important)

5. stamina - it doesn't really matter but you should pick players with at least 3 stamina.

c) Server

In the beginning it is important to upgrade your server once and buy all available hltv slots (will be 64). You may upgrade it further when you have some spare cash. HLTV slots will be your primary source of income, during league games all slots are taken by hltv viewers (= +640csm/game), during pcw games people will take 50-70% of the slots (none if you consecutively play on your own server all pcw's).

d) Staff

In the beginning take only medic (level 5) and PR manager (level 5), trainer only when you can afford it and scout later on. Here is what they do:

1. Medic - helps your players recover from injuries and can analyze them to see their maximum in each skill.
2. Scout - finds you better tryouts and gives more info about them (with lev 5 scout you see stamina, talent and 2 skills).
3. PR manager - better manager = better sponsors and missions, simple
4. Trainer - makes your players progress faster during individual training.

e) Sponsors and media rating

Choose your sponsors carefully because it is nice source of income too. Sponsors you get depend on your media rating and pr manager.
Missions give you additional media points (if completed, if not they decrease it) so choose them wisely too.

2. The basics

a) Tactics

There is no certain key to how you should make your tactics, I made mine work nicely (since I have them I haven't lost any of my league games). If you'd like to take a peek you may do so here (just dl the archive).


Since there isn't much more basics I recall now follow this advice: ON EVERY PAGE YOU HAVE AT LEAST ONE 'HELP' - READ IT !!!
And if you have any other questions feel free to contact me here by PM, posting a question in this thread, email me at ---censored--- or mail me in CSM.

Small request: I need some real CS players to give me a couple of advice according weapons and de_aztec map to improve my tactics. If any of you would like to help a bit please let me know.

Good luck.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-09 09:45:03
April 09 2005 09:36 GMT
#2
=D nice

i have some questions....
i'll start with

is there any way to increase stamina?
because i have this one player who appears to have a stamina of _0_ but looks decent in the other stuff and your friend put him in the main team i think or something
or did your friend/you actually set up this team or is it just random? i'm afraid to change it in case you did it >.>


err also, do you need to be there during matches? like what do you actually do during a match, how long does it take etc. because i thought i had a match scheduled but then i don't know what happened did it go automatically or was i supposed to be there or??


ahh, also, is there a way to change my nation or time zone


where can you see your money? and income?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-09 09:51:47
April 09 2005 09:46 GMT
#3
1. all the team was set up by myself because my friend didn't make it very well (I generally prepared this clan for initial start right before i gave it to you ^^)

2. unfortunately you can't increase stamina and talent, difference between 0 and 5 stamina is how much fitness player loses during pcw (25% and 20% accordingly) it doesn't matter for you since you regain 50% of your stamina at 2:00 am CET (anyway, if this players stamina would drop to red try to arrange 1 pcw/day then 2/day then 1 again and so on or change lineups so you have your stand-in instead of him in lineup B and make this second lineup play half of the games, half of the pcw games of course, not league)

3. matches go on automatically, you can always watch how they went later by doing this:
go to 'matches' menu, select 'played' and there after every match you have 3 options
1. 2D - you must pay for it so it won't work (but i'll try to think of the way to get it for you if you want)
2. BOT - here you can see basic info in real time (things like Player1 headshoted Player2 with weaponname or Player1 has set up the bomb etc.)
3. MR - this are simple match results where you can see overall statistics.

Have fun
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 09:53 GMT
#4
Oh, before I forget, I put 2 players there on transfer list, if none will buy them (you will receive a message about it) just kick them, they're pretty poor and would just needlessly consume your precious finances ^^
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 09:56 GMT
#5
Also something for everyone: http://csm.drice.nl/ <----- pretty useful thingie
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-09 10:05:38
April 09 2005 10:01 GMT
#6
thanks

more questions...

- is there a place i can see all of my PCWs and stuff
(edit: i think i solved this... when you click PCW i think its showing all of mine AND theirs)


- when you say set up on 2 different servers a day do you mean challenge 2 different people a day in the PCW tag, does that automatically put that PCW on their server? do they need to accept anything or is it automatic?
(Edit: nvm i think you can choose which server...)
(how can you see which server already-scheduled ones are on?)


you said hire level 5 medic/manager, do you mean right away or eventually because the "Help" on the site suggests hiring a level 1 PR manager

when you said "at a suitable time" for PCW does that mean the time actually maters or just at a free slot
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 10:10 GMT
#7
as to the pcw's, in 'matches' menu:

1. challenges - shows you current challenges (when someone challenges you)
2. upcoming - here you can see all pcw's that are before you (you can change tactics, lineup etc), you have those 4 checked boxes in the upper right corner of matches menu, uncheck everyone except 2nd from the right, it will show you only pcw games
3. played - same as upcoming :D

by different servers i meant one game on your own and another one of your opponent (you can select it when challenging), challenges (pcw's) aren't accepted automatically, the challenged person must accept them

hire them right away, and make them lev 5, "1" in help refers to maximum number of current staff personel of each kind you may have
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 10:24 GMT
#8
On which server scheduled matches are you can see by clan order:

Clan1
vs
Clan2

First clan mentioned is treated as being 'home' so the game will take place on it's server (you get cash from hltv only from the games played on your server)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 10:31 GMT
#9

when you said "at a suitable time" for PCW does that mean the time actually maters or just at a free slot


Right time is when you get enough + in your finances every week to be able to pay this increased staff salary ^^

And please make new posts with new questions cuz I don't know if I'll be able to spot all updates to your post ^^
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-09 10:38:17
April 09 2005 10:37 GMT
#10
heh sry i'll do new questions in new posts now =o

what's wrong with more than 2 PCWs a day? you get injured? lol how can CS players get injured

is there a way to change my nation or time zone?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-09 10:45:24
April 09 2005 10:44 GMT
#11
nation or timezone you can't change (you can use tl.net clock to calculate time or just find some on the net)

more pcw's a day = less fitness, when players are in red fitness and are playing games they might get injured (can't play for some time) or their skills will drop (permanently), they also do 50% worse during games.

No idea how CS player can get injured, perhaps problems with eyes, headaches etc.
Try to play on computer 10 hours a day every day, see what happens ^^
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 09 2005 12:16 GMT
#12
is there anything i can watch in 2D? (i think you said league games but i can't see where)

i think those would be much more interesting than just the bot reports or anything else ;x
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 13:43 GMT
#13
go to league menu, next to matches you have 2d,bot and mr options as usual, see if it works.
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-09 14:08:09
April 09 2005 14:07 GMT
#14
it says "Not Allowed to View Game" =\


wierd it also says that for Bot but not for the MR or w/e
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 09 2005 14:23 GMT
#15
Are you clicking on 2d/bot of YOUR clan? ^^
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-10 03:36:02
April 10 2005 03:30 GMT
#16
On April 09 2005 23:23 Manit0u wrote:
Are you clicking on 2d/bot of YOUR clan? ^^


o you meant those games, yeah i tried those before and bot/mr worked but not 2D T_T
it says "no 2D data found"

and one of the players wasn't sold should i just kick him or start a new bid for selling? (and what are reasonable prices)
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 10 2005 04:47 GMT
#17
try to sell him first, if this time he won't be bought just kick him. start the bid at 50csm (so if anyone will buy him you'll get transfer fee back)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Prawned
Profile Joined August 2004
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-10 05:01:28
April 10 2005 05:00 GMT
#18
My poor team of Terrans are failing miserably

I don't really see how most of the stats can have any effect. I don't think 2D is advanced enough to implement creativitity.

Thanks for tactics I'll try them
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 10 2005 05:32 GMT
#19
On April 10 2005 14:00 Prawned wrote:
My poor team of Terrans are failing miserably

I don't really see how most of the stats can have any effect. I don't think 2D is advanced enough to implement creativitity.

Thanks for tactics I'll try them


=\

i find it hard to imagine tactics without atleast even seeing the 2D map, you can't tell _anything_ from the bot reports really except winning/losing

with that in mind how do you guys go about making up tactics etc.

your tactics manitou seem to be mostly getting everyone to move together until they reach the objective, is there anything else heh
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 10 2005 10:55 GMT
#20
Well, my tacs are pretty primitive but effective :D
As for terrorists most teams have problems with stopping those rushes and for CT I go stright onto enemy (in case of a rush) and keeping them together provides necessary firepower ^^, I'm still working on it though and if I come up with anything better I let you know.

btw. I finally figured out Advanced Tactics, settings that work for me are:

cash for eco: 2600 bot T and CT, 1 eco round after losing pistol, at least 4 players must have cash.

Weapon settings:

Primary:

1. SG 550 commando
2. Colt M4A1
3. AK-47
4. FAMAS
5. IMI Galil

Secondary:

1. IMI Desert Eagle
2. H&K USP45 Tactical


Eco:

1. H&K USP45 Tactical 2. MP5 Navy

have fun :D
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