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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 23 2005 04:14 GMT
#141
well, they don't give you anything specific :D only if you place on the spots 1-3 you win some cash, that's all. And with all this competition + it being a single ellimination I don't think any of us stand chances of doing it ( I don't think I'll be able to win this many games in a row ^^)
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 23 2005 04:17 GMT
#142
On April 23 2005 13:14 Manit0u wrote:
well, they don't give you anything specific :D only if you place on the spots 1-3 you win some cash, that's all. And with all this competition + it being a single ellimination I don't think any of us stand chances of doing it ( I don't think I'll be able to win this many games in a row ^^)


yeah but i just thought it would be nice to play against a bigger range of competition

and the free ones you don't even have to pay csm and it doesn't lower fitness
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 23 2005 06:41 GMT
#143
I signed up for low tour. I'll check out how it goes and let you know ^^
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 23 2005 09:11 GMT
#144
hmm i really think i should reduce my squad to only 5, would you still suggest kicking rA?

[Oops]Reach 28329 19 641 34 27 35 35 20 49 20 26 23 24 293 64 100
Nal_rA 27470 22 621 25 26 23 18 32 22 30 37 38 39 290 242 100
[NC]...Yell0w 30390 22 695 39 25 31 43 33 27 25 33 24 31 311 233 100
[ReD]NaDa 31329 23 702 34 26 42 30 33 31 26 38 32 36 328 191 100
SlayerS_`BoxeR` 22391 17 496 20 24 25 21 24 18 20 25 20 32 229 234 100
iloveoov 26272 19 597 25 26 26 30 23 28 21 32 35 26 272 152 100


i copied that from the CSMstats thing idk if you can read it well..... tell me if you can't
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-24 03:06:27
April 24 2005 02:54 GMT
#145
Well, I can't :D
Just compare age to skills total of the players and kick the worst one ^^

For example I divide total skills by age (skills/age) and check the result. Now I wouldn't kick anyone cuz all have similar results verying by 0,2 mostly (~15,5-15,7).
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 24 2005 03:03 GMT
#146
Tough one... I dunno if boxer isn't the one who should be kicked. Give me here detailed skills of them (only age and skills, but make it the way I can see it clearly ) And I help you decide.
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-25 07:53:49
April 25 2005 03:59 GMT
#147
k i'll figure out some organized table this afternoon

i'll explain why i dont' want to kick boxer now though... heh while the stats look against him you have to remember that

- hes only 18
- talent of 5
- the most leadership points i have =\ just think of the leadership potential when he gets older!
- and he has a green non-injurable sign! that makes me happy because none of my other characters have any specials and its just cool heh

also he tends to perform atleast as well as rA or oov who are my 2 main prospects for selling as nada/yellow/reach are all good (nada especially O_O)



also i need some eco tactics for CT =\\
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United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-25 07:59:15
April 25 2005 07:46 GMT
#148
nick value age salary aim teamplay handling playing IQ quickness determination awareness creativity patience calmness skills experience
iloveoov 27038 19 597 25 26 26 30 29 28 21 32 35 26 278 301
[ReD]NaDa 32389 23 702 38 27 42 30 33 31 26 38 32 36 333 460
[Oops]Reach 29515 19 641 34 27 35 35 26 49 21 26 23 24 300 333
[NC]...Yell0w 31230 22 695 43 26 31 43 33 27 26 33 24 31 317 496
SlayerS_`BoxeR` 24011 18 496 25 24 25 21 25 18 21 25 20 32 236 509
Nal_rA 28238 22 621 28 26 23 19 32 22 30 37 38 39 294 374


hmm this didn't work out well one sec lemme try editing more...

nick..................value............age.....salary....skills
iloveoov..............27038............19......597.......278
[ReD]NaDa...........32389............23......702.......333
[Oops]Reach..........29515............19......641.......300
[NC]...Yell0w.........31230............22......695.......317
SlayerS_`BoxeR`....24011........18......496.......236
Nal_rA..................28238............22......621.......294


there, tell me if theres any thing else you want to know



i need eco tactics for CT and also i'm thinking of firing a medic because i realized you really don't need them unless a player is injured... analyzing players is nice and all but meh i haven't really hit the roof yet
also considering hiring a trainer.... although i'm not sure if its really worth it (i see complains in the forum about it not being good enough but they're not that expensive especially if i fire medic)

and btw i've been slowly increasing the price of my CSM tickets and for league games it looks like i haven't hit the limit yet i'm at 13/14 csm or so and still got max visitors i'll keep incrementing until i get less then backtrack (128 person server)
i tried it for PCWs but it dropped off as soon as i raised it even to 6 =\\
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 26 2005 07:21 GMT
#149
1. Kick boxer (my 17yo player has 273 skill, 18yo 236 skill won't do you any good)

2. With staff I won't help you Do as you see fit. I have my medic just in case but I think I'll kick him as soon as he analyzes all of my players (would be stupid to analyze 3 skills and then just drop him). I dunno how much trainer helps. I know I can't afford one ^^

3. With prices you're on good track, I have 11/5 now (never rise pcw prices above 5, it won't work. but you could try to lower them a bit and see how it works)

4. For CT eco I'd suggest to use this tactic where you hide all your guys behind the box in B. (I've stolen it from you and made it my eco ^^) If you want other eco I know many ppl are using the variation of counter-clockwise around we go where all of your players go through the bridge instead of all upper rooms.

Hope I helped a bit ^^
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-26 10:19:59
April 26 2005 09:37 GMT
#150
k that helps a bit, kicking boxer will make me sad though =(

you need to be really sure because you really have to remember
-he has most experience by far, and 3-bars on leadership, i'll have to start a new leader (the only one with any bars is RA any others you would suggest?)
-his high talent gives him gains very often
-he can't be injured ^_^ but meh =\\
- finally cheapest salary by over 100 csm O_O

also btw you're 17yo player is sick O_O


i'll try lowering PCW prices i ddin't even think of that ^_^

and i've been using the clockwise CT for a bit i find it much better than any counter clockwise and don't even use that heh i just tend to get raped using that if the opponent has better weapons and goes through that path all together too

btw i learned some stuff by clicking on random top players and seeing if they have demos also randomly challenge them to PCWs once i got a decent player to accept hehe
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 26 2005 21:56 GMT
#151
You made boxer ur CL?! oO
Let me tell you sth: Skills that should have good CL:
awareness, creativity, teamplay, playing iq (in this order)

Pick the guy with those highest for your new CL.
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United States4182 Posts
April 28 2005 05:35 GMT
#152
o.O haha ok i guess i will kick boxer....... and rename oov to boxer 8)

for the next leader... well i have been using Reach and hes doing great but after reading your suggestions i went to cmstats to pick someone based on those... for comparison purposes

Players with reasonable chance for new CL:

Reach: 21 awareness, 26 creativity, 27 teamplay, 35 playing IQ
Nada: 26 awareness, 38 creativity, 27 teamplay, 30 playing IQ
Nal_Ra: 30 awareness, 37 creativity, 26 teamplay, 19 playing IQ


rA looks like a strong leader i guess, its just hes weak in other stuff, and reach is young i thought that would give him more time to improve leadership points and asdfasdf -_-

also are you really sure boxer is worse than even oov? oov is 19 and he has like the same amount of skills as your 17yo i think your 17yo is a freak o_o
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 28 2005 19:54 GMT
#153
you wanna know how much skills my 2 18yo guys have? (I won't even scare you with my 22 and 21 yo's)

choosing young leader is a good idea since he'll last you for more seasons.
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-29 10:29:47
April 29 2005 10:21 GMT
#154
-.- i still beat you!!!

i decided to just keep rA as leader his stats are too good for it (he is like 3 years older than reach though...)

i finally decided that i will sell boxer but first i renamed oov to boxer's name hehe

i wonder whats a reasonable price, i'll start it pretty high, like atleast 2000 csm, i'm looking through the transfer list now and seeing if i can find a good range
edit: i decided to put him up first for 3000 csm for 1 day, i'll lower price/extend days as needed...
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 29 2005 11:33 GMT
#155
hehehe, we'll see...
and to my players skills:

Apone 22 347
Hicks 21 330
Frost 18 282
Hudson 18 277
Drake 17 275

Beat this man :D
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-29 12:16:11
April 29 2005 12:12 GMT
#156
On April 29 2005 20:33 Manit0u wrote:
hehehe, we'll see...
and to my players skills:

Apone 22 347
Hicks 21 330
Frost 18 282
Hudson 18 277
Drake 17 275

Beat this man :D


haha =O

Boxer(oov) 19 279
rA 22 295
Reach 19 303
Yell0w 22 320
Nada 23 334


you suck :p

although i like my team
i have a gosu duo in nada/yellow, reach has high skills for someone so young, rA fits in as the leader because the only skills hes good at happen to be the leadership ones ;D, and boxer is now the fifth man out haha

your player's ages are impressive considered with their skill haha, although it might take like a year (a real year not a game year) to see them become unstoppable =P
its like everyone person on your team is my Reach at different ages
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 29 2005 21:57 GMT
#157
Something like that I invested quite a lot of cash to make my squad younger/better but I think it'll profit in the future.
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
May 08 2005 04:31 GMT
#158
hmm thought i should ressurect this again because i have more to talk about heh...

- did someone take over the apach3 account again? because my friend was using it but didn't know how to change the password and now it looks like someone has taken it and changed the pass so he wanted to know if he can have it back
he was even able to get them to give him new players in season 2 =)

- speaking of that when is season 2 starting?

- how much of an effect do "favorite weapons" have because i'm thinking of changing around advanced tactics

and finally.....

does anyone know what every single statistic does? i'm so confused and the Help barely says anything. All i think i know is:

Aim: accuracy, headshot % maybe...
Teamplay: no idea... maybe the way they choose different targets? or focus fire?
Handling: no idea, is this more accuracy?
Playing IQ: no idea... i think part is knowing when to throw grenades
Quickness: how quickly they find someone and turn to shoot?
Determination: ???
Awareness: its good for CL thats all i know heh
Creativity: ?? where is there room for creativity
Patience: i understand this... i think, its like how good they are at camping
Calmness: this improves their 1v1 abilities i think, or maybe if bomb is ticking or something
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
May 08 2005 11:56 GMT
#159
- About apach3 account I do not know, I didn't touch it. Perhaps Chobo
- When season 2 starts I do not know too, in previous version it was about 1-2 weeks after current season ended
- Not very much, I think like 1-2% improvement

To stats:

Aim: Headshot % and how much ammo they'll pack into enemies (they don't waste so much ammo with higher aim = less eco rounds and better effectivenes in general)
Teamplay: How do they set up after bomb is planted, covering fire etc.
Handling: It's a bit like accuracy bonus + how they throw grenades.
Playing IQ: They know when to throw grenades, which weapon would be best in certain situation, they know if they should pick up dead enemies weapon or not etc.
Quickness: Reflex in other words ^_^, how much time does it take them to pivot, start shooting etc.
Determination: They perform better in critical situations (like when they're losing badly etc.)
Awareness: General orientation, they know better what's happening around, where's the enemy, where does the shots come from etc.
Creativity: Sometimes they do something crazy but ingenious ^_^ (mostly after the bomb has been set up)
Patience: Aye, camping.
Calmness: All of what you said. Also they perform better under heavy fire. (I noticed that frags and kpd in my clan are proportional to my players calmness ^_^)

Hope it helps :D
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
May 08 2005 11:59 GMT
#160
On Monday (2005-05-09) around 12:00 CET, CSM will go down in order to prepare for the new Season. We estimate CSM to be back online with Season 2 later on the same day. A more precise time will be posted later.

The first league games will be played on Wednesday next week.


Hope this answers your question about when season 2 starts :D
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