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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 08:42:23
November 30 2014 08:42 GMT
#15621
It originated from N0thing doing it randomly on his personal stream
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
November 30 2014 09:52 GMT
#15622
On November 30 2014 14:47 DucK- wrote:
Actually my opinion with the pixel walking thing is that it should be allowed. I don't play any CS at all, but my reasoning is simply that it is after all part of the map and it should be advantageous for the team that can utilise the map best. Yes it is op and broken as hell apparently, but I think the responsibility for balancing the game should not be from rules but from the mapmakers themselves.

Same goes with any other games. You don't limit the number of hexes/necrobooks a dota team can have. You don't ban terrans from using siege tanks to abuse a cliff spot. You balance the game by nerfing those dota items etc or adjusting that cliff spot.


The issue is that the spots where you can pixel walk are really hard to find for a mapmaker, so they generally pop up over time when people use the map. So it's basically a bug exploit, as in "feature not intended to be used". Pretty sure that if a guy won a game on sc2 because he could drop a tank on an unreachable ledge that wasn't supposed to exist over the main mineral line of his opponents, the game would be canceled/replayed.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 10:44:43
November 30 2014 10:43 GMT
#15623
On November 30 2014 17:27 Kuroeeah wrote:
Man I don't know how CS:GO does it, this major is going to stick in my memory for a good long while. While for some the accusations and drama killed their excitement, the quality of games more than made up for it.

You put this really well. I agree completely. I was honestly worried that if the finals was a one-sided final that the tournament would just be remembered as the hacking/boost major, but the finals were an amazing finish to the tournament.

On November 30 2014 18:52 Nimix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 14:47 DucK- wrote:
Actually my opinion with the pixel walking thing is that it should be allowed. I don't play any CS at all, but my reasoning is simply that it is after all part of the map and it should be advantageous for the team that can utilise the map best. Yes it is op and broken as hell apparently, but I think the responsibility for balancing the game should not be from rules but from the mapmakers themselves.

Same goes with any other games. You don't limit the number of hexes/necrobooks a dota team can have. You don't ban terrans from using siege tanks to abuse a cliff spot. You balance the game by nerfing those dota items etc or adjusting that cliff spot.


The issue is that the spots where you can pixel walk are really hard to find for a mapmaker, so they generally pop up over time when people use the map. So it's basically a bug exploit, as in "feature not intended to be used". Pretty sure that if a guy won a game on sc2 because he could drop a tank on an unreachable ledge that wasn't supposed to exist over the main mineral line of his opponents, the game would be canceled/replayed.

Im sure you gave that example intentionally, but that was actually a bug in SC2, for a very brief couple of days that was quickly patched, I can find some VODs on youtube. I can't remember if blizzard was banning people for doing it on ladder or not.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
November 30 2014 10:50 GMT
#15624
The thing is, fnatic used this bug in a 150k$ major, not on ladder
I don't understand why they didn't just pause the game to check that it was legal, and then replay the rounds when they saw one of the players was floating in the air. But as Kuroeeah said, the games yesterday more than made up for that bs!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
November 30 2014 11:33 GMT
#15625
On November 30 2014 08:48 Faruko wrote:


holy crap

Valve = king of esports

That is fantastic. Now all we need is a good forum with good mods. LiquidCS?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
November 30 2014 11:48 GMT
#15626
On November 30 2014 20:33 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 08:48 Faruko wrote:
https://twitter.com/HLTVorg/status/538835625311756288

holy crap

Valve = king of esports

That is fantastic. Now all we need is a good forum with good mods. LiquidCS?

Liquid only does Blizzard games. They made LiquidDota to cover their tracks and have an excuse to cover more Blizzard games.

LiquidStrike would sound better imo
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
November 30 2014 11:52 GMT
#15627
Yeah a CSGO subforum on TL would really only make sense given the popularity of the esport at this point. Using this single thread can be frustrating, I personally don't care what other people bet for example but there's obviously always a lot of posts about betting.

Oh well, until one of the "higher ups" here starts caring about CSGO nothing is going to happen I guess. (Picking up a Smash team and stuff instead of getting into CSGO could send me into a rage fit personally but oh well, I don't get to make the decisions :p)
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8646 Posts
November 30 2014 11:55 GMT
#15628
Subforum would be nice, yeah. I mean even D3 got one at release... The bias is strong I guess.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 30 2014 12:23 GMT
#15629
Considering how much money is moving CS now, and how much more it will move, i dont see why Liquid would not want to take a piece of the pie, they dont need to create a tier 1 team from the get go, maybe test the waters a little bit
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
November 30 2014 13:06 GMT
#15630
On November 30 2014 21:23 Faruko wrote:
Considering how much money is moving CS now, and how much more it will move, i dont see why Liquid would not want to take a piece of the pie, they dont need to create a tier 1 team from the get go, maybe test the waters a little bit

I don't think TL is interested in that. Just see league of legends, way more money/viewers, TL not interested.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
November 30 2014 13:22 GMT
#15631
A TL CSGO team is asking for way too much but a subforum should be feasible I think? There isn't really any good CSGO forum - hltv is plagued by its own userbase and r/GlobalOffensive is... well... reddit.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
November 30 2014 13:31 GMT
#15632
Maybe a TL admin could respond to this?
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
November 30 2014 13:43 GMT
#15633
Two questions:

How much damage does a grenade do? Max-body/head/radius decrease?
Do you hear only your teams grenade announcements or the enemies team's as well?
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 13:55:53
November 30 2014 13:55 GMT
#15634
On November 30 2014 22:43 Yrr wrote:
Two questions:

How much damage does a grenade do? Max-body/head/radius decrease?
Do you hear only your teams grenade announcements or the enemies team's as well?


I'm not sure about the exact damage values (kniferound.net doesn't mention them either: http://kniferound.net/wiki/HE). The damage does fall off with distance and if there's anything between you and the nade when it goes off, it will negate the damage as well. Kevlar helps greatly against nade damage.

You only hear nade announcements from your own team!
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
November 30 2014 14:06 GMT
#15635
You can get one hit killed by a HE nade if you have no kevlar or if the game bugs and doesn't take it in account; If you have a kevlar, the max damage may be around 70, but it's pretty rare to take more than 50 dmg from a nade.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 30 2014 14:16 GMT
#15636
Im not asking for a CS:GO team :p is just that if they ever want to keep getting more into esports, after Dota 2, SC2 and LoL... CS:GO seems like the best place for

if they want it
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
November 30 2014 14:42 GMT
#15637
What do you guys think about the dropped cases? I got an Overpass souvenir from the finals. Should I hold on to it, sell it right away, or should I open it? :D
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
November 30 2014 14:43 GMT
#15638
yeah this game deserves at least a sub-forum.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
November 30 2014 15:05 GMT
#15639
On November 30 2014 23:42 way2mash4u wrote:
What do you guys think about the dropped cases? I got an Overpass souvenir from the finals. Should I hold on to it, sell it right away, or should I open it? :D


Well, compare how much the case sells for with what could be in it and how much that's worth, then make a decision.

Lucky bastard, too. I've now watched the last two majors missing barely anything in either GOTV or with a connected Twitch account and have yet to get a souvenir drop.
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
November 30 2014 15:48 GMT
#15640
I watched all the majors since they introduced drops for viewers, still no drops Gaben hates me
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