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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
November 30 2014 19:39 GMT
#15661
On December 01 2014 04:10 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 22:31 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Maybe a TL admin could respond to this?

I don't think any of the admins play CSGO, so I would assume they don't read this thread. But they are always willing to respond to the community so it probably wouldn't hurt to get into contact with one of them and ask. Personally I don't think TL would ever cover CS, but a sub-forum doesn't sound like too far out of an idea.

How about just having some of the big tournaments on the calendar?
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 19:41:17
November 30 2014 19:40 GMT
#15662
On December 01 2014 02:33 way2mash4u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 00:05 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
On November 30 2014 23:42 way2mash4u wrote:
What do you guys think about the dropped cases? I got an Overpass souvenir from the finals. Should I hold on to it, sell it right away, or should I open it? :D


Well, compare how much the case sells for with what could be in it and how much that's worth, then make a decision.

Lucky bastard, too. I've now watched the last two majors missing barely anything in either GOTV or with a connected Twitch account and have yet to get a souvenir drop.


Well, there could be a Masterpiece in it, which sells for roughly 50-200€(factory new). People are selling the cases for 8€ now. I put it up for 25€. Guess I'll have to wait and see.
Why are people putting the things up for 100€ and above? It's highly unlikely that they become THIS rare, isn't it?


Because people are retarded enough to buy it on marketplace :p
That's how steam works.
Can't wait for next International, making monthly salary in few hours is always fun.

On December 01 2014 04:39 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:10 TheEmulator wrote:
On November 30 2014 22:31 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Maybe a TL admin could respond to this?

I don't think any of the admins play CSGO, so I would assume they don't read this thread. But they are always willing to respond to the community so it probably wouldn't hurt to get into contact with one of them and ask. Personally I don't think TL would ever cover CS, but a sub-forum doesn't sound like too far out of an idea.

How about just having some of the big tournaments on the calendar?


You can just add them :p
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
November 30 2014 19:42 GMT
#15663
On December 01 2014 02:50 Roggay wrote:
Flusha about the cheating accusations :
https://www.facebook.com/flushaCSGO/posts/1017158358301049

Tbh I feel really bad for them. Receiving death threats and being bullied in general must suck and take out any enjoyment you could have playing the game.
And all of that for what are still speculations.


You feel bad for someone who has the mentality to withhold an exploit for 2 months? Look at these guys. + Show Spoiler +


You should give pity and benefit of the doubt to people who deserve it. Not just everyone blindly.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
November 30 2014 19:42 GMT
#15664
On December 01 2014 03:46 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 02:50 Roggay wrote:
Flusha about the cheating accusations :
https://www.facebook.com/flushaCSGO/posts/1017158358301049

Tbh I feel really bad for them. Receiving death threats and being bullied in general must suck and take out any enjoyment you could have playing the game.
And all of that for what are still speculations.


In the whole post he did not state that he has never hacked or isn't hacking ;-)


that goes without saying tbh... does he really have to state that?
you live and you learn
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 30 2014 19:49 GMT
#15665
On December 01 2014 04:42 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 02:50 Roggay wrote:
Flusha about the cheating accusations :
https://www.facebook.com/flushaCSGO/posts/1017158358301049

Tbh I feel really bad for them. Receiving death threats and being bullied in general must suck and take out any enjoyment you could have playing the game.
And all of that for what are still speculations.


You feel bad for someone who has the mentality to withhold an exploit for 2 months? Look at these guys. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjLHduTNxlQ


You should give pity and benefit of the doubt to people who deserve it. Not just everyone blindly.

Yes I do?
I don't really like Fnatic, never did (partly because of that exact video), but that doesnt mean I would not feel bad for them.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
November 30 2014 19:54 GMT
#15666
Honestly his post is pretty accurate about the community. I really don't understand why people have to be so mean to eachother, life is already hard enough as it is without others making it harder for one another. I don't think he's cheating personally, but I guess time will tell.
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 20:00:11
November 30 2014 20:00 GMT
#15667
On December 01 2014 04:29 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:13 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:10 TheEmulator wrote:
On November 30 2014 22:31 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Maybe a TL admin could respond to this?

I don't think any of the admins play CSGO, so I would assume they don't read this thread. But they are always willing to respond to the community so it probably wouldn't hurt to get into contact with one of them and ask. Personally I don't think TL would ever cover CS, but a sub-forum doesn't sound like too far out of an idea.


Cool! Someone who's been around for some time and has a high post count should probably get into contact! Anyone?

Easiest way would probably be to get one of the bigger/more invested posters here to make a thread in the website feedback forum. Just ask whether the admins would be open to it, and list some of the arguments for getting one.

Things like

* how many TL members are active in the csgo subcommunity
* what things the TL CSGO community do together
* how many pages this thread grows during events (is there enough interest to warrant separate tourney threads)
* are there any very highly ranked players who are active here
* what kind of things would be possible that currently aren't

would all probably help show you were actually serious and had some numbers to back it up, and might make them actually consider the idea rather then just glancing it over.

If you look at LoL as an example of a non covered game that has a subforum, there are several mods who play (including neo, who's been in the LoL scene for YEARS and sometimes writes for riot,) many very high elo players actively posting, 30+ people who post near daily, off topic thread there is the most active thread on tl iirc, very large threads for every bit match including weekly lcs and guides all over the place.

You'd just have to convince them that CSGO could be that or better, and that they'd be able to get a few admins (or at least hammers) to spend time moderating it. Also highlighting what open space there is in the csgo community that TL could fill with a forum, (maybe pointing out the failings of other forums) and what kind of content could come from TL that isn't coming from anywhere else.


I could try. I do not have a lot of posts but I´m pretty old here I think.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 30 2014 20:09 GMT
#15668
It should be illegal to premade queue as 4 fucking russians in competitive. For fucks sake, what did i do to deserve this hell on earth. kicked after round 8 because i refused to join their 3rd armour deagle eco down mid on dust2
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
November 30 2014 20:09 GMT
#15669
On December 01 2014 04:54 RagequitBM wrote:
Honestly his post is pretty accurate about the community. I really don't understand why people have to be so mean to eachother, life is already hard enough as it is without others making it harder for one another. I don't think he's cheating personally, but I guess time will tell.


Life is mostly really hard because people are mean to each other. If you think about it, like 99% + of the world's problems occour because people only think about their own feelings and don't care for everyone else.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
November 30 2014 20:20 GMT
#15670
On December 01 2014 04:54 RagequitBM wrote:
Honestly his post is pretty accurate about the community. I really don't understand why people have to be so mean to eachother, life is already hard enough as it is without others making it harder for one another. I don't think he's cheating personally, but I guess time will tell.

Exactly. We need a better forum for cs.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 20:27:44
November 30 2014 20:23 GMT
#15671
I by no means approve the stuff thrown at fnatic, but at the same time I feel it was pretty much bound to happen with the way the community and the internet work in general. DHW at the door, most people with some credibility in the scene were very careful with their words and all that was left was people throwing nasty stuff at each other.

When SC2 had the spades incident, Catz sat down with the replays and talked about them. Stuff like that helps to calm things down. Without any properly moderated discussion and no influential people being reasonable, it's going to go this way.

I don't know if fnatic themselves could have really dodged the nasty stuff, but their damage control has been pretty much negilible too. For the first two weeks the only statement I saw from them was pretty much "You make me laugh" or so. Obviously the questionable boost didn't help things either, neither did the forfeit without much of a statement. Of course it's unpleasant stuff for them anyway, but you still have to handle the PR stuff properly too.

There's a lot of stuff bonkers in the community and Fnatic ended up getting some of the nastiest stuff in it. Unfortunate definitely, but looking at it afterwards also quite predictable. I hope the community, team and tournament managements take notes on this one because the community itself isn't going to change much on its own, no matter how pleasant surprise that would be.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 30 2014 20:29 GMT
#15672
On December 01 2014 04:25 TheEmulator wrote:
Stancel plays CSGO. TIL


I've played CS since 1.3 >_>
ffxiv enjoyer
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 20:31:58
November 30 2014 20:29 GMT
#15673
On December 01 2014 04:54 RagequitBM wrote:
Honestly his post is pretty accurate about the community. I really don't understand why people have to be so mean to eachother, life is already hard enough as it is without others making it harder for one another. I don't think he's cheating personally, but I guess time will tell.


It's the way things happened, and how the team handled it during DHW.

Flusha was getting a lot of hate already, mainly stemming from the usual Reddit hate train (like the mods on that side EVER do anything about). Then in DHW, they go ahead and pull off one of the most hated and game breaking boost spots you can do. THEN on top of that, they counter LDLC's complaint with something that is used quite regularly. THEN LDLC was pushed out of the way, their complaint took 6 hours while Fnatic's took 30 minutes. (While LDLC wasn't allowed to speak to the admins when Fnatic was).

Fnatic and their CS:GO team handled things the most terrible way possible. I don't know what the hell they are doing recently but they have been creating drama left and right. (DotA 2 and the way they handled Era, and eventually breaking up the Fnatic team that has been together for so long).

Fnatic and Flusha aren't gaining any sympathetic votes for themselves. And he goes to release this? How is THIS going to help his or his team's situation? Especially for DHW when they were laughing on stream when they did that boost 12 rounds in a row, effectively winning off of it? The internet will always have people without a brain, the hate-train people ride on constantly and don't think for themselves. But this is absolutely Fnatic and Flusha's fault. They haven't done anything to quell all of the issues, just trying to side step it and attack the community for it.

You should be talking to the fans, and people who are normal and can think for themselves. You will always have haters, always. Grouping everyone into that hate group going around is just going to make things worse. Not better.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 20:41:25
November 30 2014 20:41 GMT
#15674
I'm not condoning the flak they receive, but you can replace one word in his analogy (community with society) because not many people have pity and kindness toward criminals/poor/etc. For better or for worse they aren't morally sound individuals from what we've seen. I rather err on the side of caution, than forgiveness.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 30 2014 20:59 GMT
#15675
I think me and Steveling would be perfect mods for CSGO sub forum.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 30 2014 21:24 GMT
#15676
On December 01 2014 05:59 Mensol wrote:
I think me and Steveling would be perfect mods for CSGO sub forum.


steveling as a mod

AHAHAHAHAHA
ffxiv enjoyer
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 30 2014 21:27 GMT
#15677
lmao, fu stancel, xP.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
November 30 2014 21:27 GMT
#15678
mensol? ROLF
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
November 30 2014 21:28 GMT
#15679
On December 01 2014 04:40 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 02:33 way2mash4u wrote:
On December 01 2014 00:05 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
On November 30 2014 23:42 way2mash4u wrote:
What do you guys think about the dropped cases? I got an Overpass souvenir from the finals. Should I hold on to it, sell it right away, or should I open it? :D


Well, compare how much the case sells for with what could be in it and how much that's worth, then make a decision.

Lucky bastard, too. I've now watched the last two majors missing barely anything in either GOTV or with a connected Twitch account and have yet to get a souvenir drop.


Well, there could be a Masterpiece in it, which sells for roughly 50-200€(factory new). People are selling the cases for 8€ now. I put it up for 25€. Guess I'll have to wait and see.
Why are people putting the things up for 100€ and above? It's highly unlikely that they become THIS rare, isn't it?


Because people are retarded enough to buy it on marketplace :p
That's how steam works.
Can't wait for next International, making monthly salary in few hours is always fun.




So, what do you think? Put it on the marketplace for like 25€? 50? 100? Or just try to trade it?
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 30 2014 21:29 GMT
#15680
But on a more srs note I think stancel would be perfect.

Trust me guys, I was the one who created our doto2 mods.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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