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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19213 Posts
May 31 2014 19:58 GMT
#8661
not really. My team left for food/saltiness and I replaced Durak and we crushed some people on Mirage.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19213 Posts
May 31 2014 20:52 GMT
#8662
ridiculous stack: Nova 3, Silver 3 (me), DMG, LEM
http://twitch.tv/tofucakes
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
May 31 2014 21:01 GMT
#8663
Won three games in a row today and finally am ranked in the prestigious Silver Elite Master... :p I saw that coming because all ten placement matches it put me with nothing but Silver Elite Master/Silver 4 players despite me top-fragging almost every match (and finishing up the last half of the placement matches with a five-game winning streak) - I'm not mad though, means I have a nice road ahead to level into Gold Nova first of all.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
May 31 2014 21:04 GMT
#8664
Playing with TL.net against tofu is the most fun I have in CSGO. Great games
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 31 2014 22:55 GMT
#8665
I see alot of people get put in silver elite when they finish their placements, i musta got lucky since i hit nova 2
Useless wet fish.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 31 2014 23:20 GMT
#8666
FINALLY. I get my MGE back and then got DMG woot :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19213 Posts
May 31 2014 23:28 GMT
#8667
On June 01 2014 06:04 Durak wrote:
Playing with TL.net against tofu is the most fun I have in CSGO. Great games

Suav3 just shot me in the face no matter where or when I went, so I don't know if we really played against each other
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
June 01 2014 02:32 GMT
#8668
finally ranked back to silver elite master, and then my next competitive match is a complete roll until the premade on the other team sends the two best guys on my team crates to lose and run circles in spawn. they won't kick me so I friendly fire my way out, get banned for two hours and derank. fuckin' stupid.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19213 Posts
June 01 2014 04:25 GMT
#8669
report for griefing then go afk
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 05:57:20
June 01 2014 05:52 GMT
#8670
yeah the superiority of afk'ing into a possible kick vote seems obvious in hindsight but I was pretty butthurt at the time

two wins and one carry later I'm back in SEM though. I assume the wall to nova will now be to learn to use the ARs because I'm still hot garbage with the silenced M4 and somewhat less with the AK.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
June 01 2014 09:44 GMT
#8671
So I started playing CSGO some days ago and I feel totally lost, is there a good resource to learn basic things? Also, is there some commonly used config file I should use or am I fine with running the default options?
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
June 01 2014 10:42 GMT
#8672
On June 01 2014 18:44 Vallelol wrote:
So I started playing CSGO some days ago and I feel totally lost, is there a good resource to learn basic things? Also, is there some commonly used config file I should use or am I fine with running the default options?


I would suggest you check out Hatton, WarOwl and Adren on Youtube, they make pretty good quick tips, weapon guides, nade spot videos and so on.

There's tons of premade configs around I'm sure but I personally just customize my settings to the way I like them. You will need to enable your console (in game options) and then adapt your crosshair (cl_crosshairsize etc.) to something you like (personally I use a tiny super thin cyan static cross). You also want to zoom out your radar map so it shows (almost) the entire map all the time (cl_radarscale I believe), this way you can see what's going on in public matches even without people giving call outs via voice chat. Additionally I would suggest binding smokes and flashes to special buttons (bind mouse4 "use weapon_smokegrenade" for example), I have my smoke grenades on mouse button 4 and flashbangs on mouse button 5 so I can immediately access them ingame without having to hit 4 repeatedly to cycle to them. There's a bunch more stuff you can do (such as optimizing the netcode for 128-tick servers), but the above should be enough to get you started.

Here's some general newbie things that I see (note I'm also just silver elite master so pretty much a newb myself) and that you should avoid:

- Do not buy every round. Look at what your team is doing, if they don't have enough money (tofucake posted minimum amounts a couple posts above) then don't be an idiot and buy an expensive weapon. You want to sync the amount of money each player has, so buy as a team and save as a team (these are called eco rounds). You may buy a grenade or armor (with/without helmet) on some eco rounds if you have a bit more money than most.

- Kills give you varying amounts of money depending on your weapon. In general, the weaker the weapon is, the more money you get from it. In eco rounds, you're not supposed to win the round, it's good enough to get a kill or two, then next round you should have enough to "buy up" fully as a team and win.

- Use a microphone and call out when you die. Tell them how many enemies you see, where, if they're damaged and, potentially, what weapon(s) they have. At low level, not enough people do this unfortunately, but it's always useful to the rest of the team.

- Play on deathmatch servers (browse community servers -> filter: deathmatch) to practice your crosshair placement and aim. Crosshair placement is very important and means that you don't look at the ground like most newcomers but actually ALWAYS have your crosshair exactly at headshot level where you think enemies are going to pop up.

- Do not spray with every weapon at every distance. Spraying means holding down the left mouse button and pulling down after a couple of bullets to compensate for the recoil. This works with automatic weapons at short-to-medium distances but for everything else you should tap or burst fire (single shots or two-three bullet bursts) then wait. Look up shooting technique videos on the Youtube channels I mentioned, they cover all this.

- Don't buy random weapons. This is obviously preference but you need to know that, given enough money, you really should be using the M4 (b42 keys to buy on CT side) or AK (b42 as well as T), or go for the AWP (b45 on both sides) depending on if you want to rifle or snipe. If you don't have enough money, you can get the FAMAS (b41 on CT) or GALIL (b41 as well on T) or, if you have even less money, go for better pistols (P250/CZ-AUTO/DEAGLE) or the BIZON or P90 submachine guns. Certain other guns are definitely used and playable but I would concentrate on those, primarily the M4/AK. This way, you really only need to know how these two guns work and your favorite pistol and you're set for both buy and eco rounds.


Last but not least, here's some rough strategy guidelines (keep in mind general aim/crosshair placement is going to be a lot more important at the very low level because people there are not going to play 'proper' strategies). 99% of matchmaking is on bomb defusal maps, I assume you know how the scenario works. As CTs you need to get into a default stance to defend both bomb spots. A general setup is to have two players on each bombspot and then one give somewhere in the middle, depending on the map. Then you wait and see what the Ts are doing. If they're taking one of the bombspots, the other people need to 'rotate' (leave there position and move there). You can rush places as CTs but for the beginning I would just get into this default position every round and learn to defend/rotate at the right times. If you're playing on a bombsite, you can use a smoke grenade at one of the potential T entrances. This will make it harder for them to rush through it (the person going through smoke is always exposed to the guy on the other side waiting for people to pass through the smoke). If the bomb is down somewhere (it's on the ground because the carrier died or it was thrown there - people NEED to call this or you can see it on the radar), every CT should immediately go there, set up a perimeter around and protect it. Ts will lose if they try and take it and run into your position and they will also lose if they let the time run out.

On T side, you can either also split up like CTs and just carefully 'take some picks', as in, waiting for CTs to expose themselves and get a kill, then once a couple CTs are sighted somewhere or down, you can converge onto the bombsite that is less 'stacked' (full off CTs) and plant the bomb there. Alternatively, you can rush a bombsite. If your team rushes, make sure to play along and DO NOT stop for anything. Even if they flash or smoke, you need to keep moving. Nothing worse than having the first guy in a rush stop and block the rest of the team from entering the bombsite, you'll get picked off one by one. The idea is to overwhelm them with numbers, not to survive as the first guy.

I wouldn't recommend playing casual because it's 10v10 which is just ridiculous. Play a lot of deathmatch until you feel less horrible about your aim, then hop onto competitive. Before, you may want to practice the common maps (dust2, nuke, inferno) with bots and learn what the different spots on the map are called so you can call them out in real games.

Hope this helps. Once again, big disclaimer: I'm silver elite master, that's pretty low level as well, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. It's just the first couple of things that come to my mind that I've seen in my first 2 weeks of playing the game myself.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 01 2014 11:32 GMT
#8673
One thing I would add is, the point of the game as either side is to control areas of the map. If you're in a room, you want to look everywhere that the enemy could come from. At the start of a round, this is somewhat limited, but as more people die and the round goes longer, it's important that someone in a group is watching the flank, and all of you aren't looking in the same direction. Covering sites as CT and defending the bomb as T is prime time for this sort of thing. You all want to be looking at different angles, covering different paths into the site unless you know for certain where the enemy is.

This has to do with information. Most of the time at low level, it's kind of easy to tell where the enemy is. They make a lot of noise and aren't actively deceptive. Figuring out where people are is a skill, and you can't do that if you're all in the same spot watching the same angle. Spreading out and watching different angles gains your team more information and lets them make appropriate decisions. As either side, knowing where your enemy is positioned is crucial, as it allows you to make correct map movements and win the numbers game.
Writer@WriterYamato
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19213 Posts
June 01 2014 15:43 GMT
#8674
Doing well in nova ranks is 40% not aiming at the floor, 40% lowering your sensitivity so you can aim accurately, and 20% blind luck.

You also need a lot of patience with this game.

Anyway, default config is usually just fine, except the crosshair. The default crosshair is garbage. You also want to enable the console.

And I do recommend playing casual. It's useless for strategy and timings and other important stuff, but it's a good way to get to know the maps. Going into competitive without knowing the maps you're playing is only going to make everyone's day a little bit worse.
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Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 16:51:22
June 01 2014 16:51 GMT
#8675
here is the real secret to counterstrike

throw smoke grenade, shoot bad guys dont miss
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 17:04:17
June 01 2014 17:02 GMT
#8676
On June 02 2014 00:43 tofucake wrote:
Doing well in nova ranks is 40% not aiming at the floor, 40% lowering your sensitivity so you can aim accurately, and 20% blind luck.

That's what i had seen. I haven't played much (around 20 competitive games), i placed gold nova II and in 10 matches moved into gold nova elite. I am consistently topfragging with/against teams with AKs, so i am expecting promotion (or maybe the last 3 matches with AKs had been people who got carried into them, who knows). When i was playing my first placement, the biggest problems on silver was that people didn't know the maps, played withouth sound, and were running making a lot of sound and aiming at the ground all the time. Made me nuts whenever i died and had to watch my teammates. Didn't happen often tho.

On novas, i still saw people pointing to who the fuck now, those are the ones forever nova, even if they learned a bit the maps and how to walk sometimes, that is just mindboggling to me.

And i played mostly casuals before starting to do competitives. Because i wanted to know the maps, but to be honest, half the time you end up playing dust 2 (the fuck is wrong with people), and people tend to tryhard and play them like if it was competitive even though it isn't, so it gives you general awareness of peeking spots, etc.

I am still a newbye tho, but there is something awesome about this game while being a newbye, is that each day you play a few competitives you learn a lot, or atleast that's how i feel about it.


About the config, the radar scale is the most important thing for me.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 01 2014 17:26 GMT
#8677
In terms of eco rounds, on T side, your goal is to get the bomb plant down and to make the retake costly. On CT side, your goal is make their round be really costly, ie they win the round but lost 3 players with guns.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 01 2014 20:33 GMT
#8678
On June 02 2014 00:43 tofucake wrote:
And I do recommend playing casual. It's useless for strategy and timings and other important stuff, but it's a good way to get to know the maps. Going into competitive without knowing the maps you're playing is only going to make everyone's day a little bit worse.


I keep saying this over and over to people but i find a legitimate way of learning maps is watching a video overview with callouts / spots detailed and then spawning in a no-bots map and just doing practice runs to each of the bombsites / various locations. Ive done it for a couple of maps now and its only taken me a game or two to get comfortable, never bottomfragged.
Useless wet fish.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 01 2014 21:23 GMT
#8679
On June 02 2014 05:33 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 00:43 tofucake wrote:
And I do recommend playing casual. It's useless for strategy and timings and other important stuff, but it's a good way to get to know the maps. Going into competitive without knowing the maps you're playing is only going to make everyone's day a little bit worse.


I keep saying this over and over to people but i find a legitimate way of learning maps is watching a video overview with callouts / spots detailed and then spawning in a no-bots map and just doing practice runs to each of the bombsites / various locations. Ive done it for a couple of maps now and its only taken me a game or two to get comfortable, never bottomfragged.

I second this.

Never found myself in a spot where I played significantly worse becouse I didn't knew the map
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 23:57:45
June 01 2014 23:57 GMT
#8680
Haven't won a game in like 2 weeks... Since last time I played with Torte I think...
Started this one 15-6, winning 8-2 CT side D2.... Finished 18-24 and lost 16-14.... T_T pretty sad. can't fucking aim it's too cold here.
And leaving for one month for Ivory Coast, this was my last game before july, T_TTTTTTT
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