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Fallacy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States227 Posts
August 12 2011 22:11 GMT
#241
To all the little half-life girls crying, they said they have been and are currently working on episode 3, so sthu and let CS take the main stage.
Stand up for what you believe in even if it means standing alone.
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 22:35:34
August 12 2011 22:26 GMT
#242
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS: GO) will expand upon the team-based action gameplay that it pioneered when it was launched 12 years ago.


Riding on the fame of early CS we bring you this source engine based $ cow....
gt*o

CS: GO promises to expand on CS' award-winning gameplay and deliver it to gamers on the PC as well as the next gen consoles and the Mac.


Wth, did source ever win an award for anything?
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
August 12 2011 22:35 GMT
#243
cant believe its based off the source engine.

hope this new "feel" is less retarded as css
young ho
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 22:52:07
August 12 2011 22:51 GMT
#244
On August 13 2011 07:26 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS: GO) will expand upon the team-based action gameplay that it pioneered when it was launched 12 years ago.


Riding on the fame of early CS we bring you this source engine based $ cow....
gt*o

Show nested quote +
CS: GO promises to expand on CS' award-winning gameplay and deliver it to gamers on the PC as well as the next gen consoles and the Mac.


Wth, did source ever win an award for anything?

Yes, Source in fact is on a vox populi basis the better game of the two. 9.0 user score vs 8.7. It cannot be denied, the mass of users prefers the newer game. And this is on Gamespot which is in general a nostalgia-biased game, with older platformers and PC games generally having a higher rating than new games.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/counterstrikesource/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflifecounterstrike/index.html
Aah thats the stuff..
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
August 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#245
On August 13 2011 07:10 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 05:36 LeaD wrote:
On August 12 2011 20:41 PGHatchy wrote:
On August 12 2011 20:36 LeaD wrote:
I can't recall any maps where spamming walls really gave terrorists an advantage to be honest, you can get a pick or harass someone once in a while though.


You seem to be forgetting de_nuke.



de_nuke did not give terrorists an advantage, you could get a pick or maybe hit someone here and there if they were a bad team, but it was pretty easily avoidable. Spamming walls was a huge advantage CT side though, spamming from ramp and inner made positioning a nightmare in the lobby and you can almost guarantee always hitting someone. Also, if you knew the correct spam spots at ramp, you could make it extremely difficult to push through radio room.


I disagree, you can deny lots of spots on cat (rafters) as T by spamming, you can deny spots in main, you can plant so you can easily spam the guy defusing on upper etc. Getting spammed in radio room isn't a big problem if you're not a dumbass


You can only deny the corner in rafters or possibly opposite rafters, anyone with half a brain knows that the T's stop spamming pretty quickly since they have to eventually push, and sitting on their rafters isn't conducive of that. Deny spots in the main? Where is that? You mean inner? Maybe with a shot in the dark you can hit someone through hut into connector (which is unlikely) or something along those lines, but nothing big and you can pretty much move wherever you like inner, unless they catch you on top of hut and nade spam.

Getting spammed in radio room isn't the problem, the problem is when you PUSH through radio room, there is a spam spot from ramp room that goes directly into the radio room door, which is kind of IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. So, if you rush and the CTs are there in time, you`re pretty screwed as you`re going to lose at least one guy or if they communicate properly during the round. You can actually spam that spot from inner as well.

You do realize that default plant spot is also spammable by the CTs right? It goes both ways, since you can routinely catch the guy planting by spamming from outside. Disagree all you like, but there's no way in hell the terrorists have an advantage over the CTs on de_nuke.
shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
August 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#246
On August 13 2011 07:51 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 07:26 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS: GO) will expand upon the team-based action gameplay that it pioneered when it was launched 12 years ago.


Riding on the fame of early CS we bring you this source engine based $ cow....
gt*o

CS: GO promises to expand on CS' award-winning gameplay and deliver it to gamers on the PC as well as the next gen consoles and the Mac.


Wth, did source ever win an award for anything?

Yes, Source in fact is on a vox populi basis the better game of the two. 9.0 user score vs 8.7. It cannot be denied, the mass of users prefers the newer game. And this is on Gamespot which is in general a nostalgia-biased game, with older platformers and PC games generally having a higher rating than new games.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/counterstrikesource/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflifecounterstrike/index.html


The troll is just... so elaborately planned.
"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 23:53:21
August 12 2011 23:50 GMT
#247
On August 13 2011 07:52 LeaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 07:10 hugman wrote:
On August 13 2011 05:36 LeaD wrote:
On August 12 2011 20:41 PGHatchy wrote:
On August 12 2011 20:36 LeaD wrote:
I can't recall any maps where spamming walls really gave terrorists an advantage to be honest, you can get a pick or harass someone once in a while though.


You seem to be forgetting de_nuke.



de_nuke did not give terrorists an advantage, you could get a pick or maybe hit someone here and there if they were a bad team, but it was pretty easily avoidable. Spamming walls was a huge advantage CT side though, spamming from ramp and inner made positioning a nightmare in the lobby and you can almost guarantee always hitting someone. Also, if you knew the correct spam spots at ramp, you could make it extremely difficult to push through radio room.


I disagree, you can deny lots of spots on cat (rafters) as T by spamming, you can deny spots in main, you can plant so you can easily spam the guy defusing on upper etc. Getting spammed in radio room isn't a big problem if you're not a dumbass


You can only deny the corner in rafters or possibly opposite rafters, anyone with half a brain knows that the T's stop spamming pretty quickly since they have to eventually push, and sitting on their rafters isn't conducive of that. Deny spots in the main? Where is that? You mean inner? Maybe with a shot in the dark you can hit someone through hut into connector (which is unlikely) or something along those lines, but nothing big and you can pretty much move wherever you like inner, unless they catch you on top of hut and nade spam.

Getting spammed in radio room isn't the problem, the problem is when you PUSH through radio room, there is a spam spot from ramp room that goes directly into the radio room door, which is kind of IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. So, if you rush and the CTs are there in time, you`re pretty screwed as you`re going to lose at least one guy or if they communicate properly during the round. You can actually spam that spot from inner as well.

You do realize that default plant spot is also spammable by the CTs right? It goes both ways, since you can routinely catch the guy planting by spamming from outside. Disagree all you like, but there's no way in hell the terrorists have an advantage over the CTs on de_nuke.


I'm Swedish so we have different names for stuff. "Main" is the room below the roof you can jump down to from the red rock overlooking yard. It's still a CT-sided map, I just think that T has the advantage in terms of being able to utilize spamming. On some maps it's the opposite, like train where CTs have better spam opportunities.

Of course it's still a map where both teams spam a ton.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 00:18:56
August 13 2011 00:16 GMT
#248
One thing I liked about Counter-Strike 1.6 (as opposed to Source) is the mods.

There are tons of mods (amxx + metamod plugins).

My personal favorite is Ultimate Warcraft 3 (it's like the Warcraft 3 mod except you do not choose races and you can choose from every ability from all races in the regular WC3 mod + there are more abilities and attributes and resistances too).

Point is I think Counter Strike 1.6 rivals WC3 in terms of fun mods but sad thing is CS 1.6 is kind of dead (well in terms of mods. There are tons of mods but few servers use anything besides WC3 and Zombie mod. This is out of mods like the Pokemon mod, Diablo mod, or random fun stuff like rockets and flame throwers).

Well hopefully the new CS will support mods just the same and won't just cause a separation of the CS community into 3 parts.

I disliked CS Source because it added nothing new at all. All CS Source did was split the CS communities into two. Also mod development was split [amxx vs sourcemod] thus slowing the development of mods in general (instead of time spent developing new mods for 1.6, redevelop old mods from 1.6 to Source). and well it sort of just hurt the community IMO.

Also that and they removed VIP mode. Sure VIP mode isn't a "competitive" mode but it was sure fun for pubs (especially with the WC3 or Ultimate WC3 mod too, heh).

[Same reason I disliked BF2142. It only came out a year after BF2 but it split the community into two >.<].

https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
dupshflayh
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway49 Posts
August 13 2011 00:33 GMT
#249
On August 12 2011 14:31 harDmug wrote:
Rework CS onto new engine like they did with source - otherwise if they make it into anything else/more/cod kiddy appeal ive lost faith in gaming. Please don't let this end up as another ruined saga due to the popularity of gaming, because the CS series is one of the few real gems left today..


I agree to not "CoD"-ing the CS series, but I feel obligated to remind you of the one CS game that was far below their standards: Condition Zero.


But I still have hopes for this.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
August 13 2011 00:35 GMT
#250
In Valve I trust
bonus vir semper tiro
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 00:39:08
August 13 2011 00:38 GMT
#251
is someone actually trying to make an argument saying that de_nuke is NOT ct sided?

have you ever touched competitive play in this game?
yaya
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
August 13 2011 00:40 GMT
#252
Will this game have a riot shield for the CTs?
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Colonial
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
August 13 2011 01:51 GMT
#253
On August 13 2011 09:38 spacek wrote:
is someone actually trying to make an argument saying that de_nuke is NOT ct sided?

have you ever touched competitive play in this game?


In 1.6 it's pretty even in top leagues....yes it favors CTs a bit due to camp spots but there are usually no blow outs.
"All your parties are our pre-parties cause you ain't from IV!"
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
August 13 2011 02:25 GMT
#254
"Marek ".PhP" Kadek is one of the players in seattle. This is what he wrote on Playzone.cz :
- this game is not going to replace CS 1.6, or CS:S, it is primary made for consoles, PC version is just kind of a "bonus"
- at the moment, the game looks more like HL2DM
- There is no recoil and there will never be. (because of the consoles)
- the game runs on L4D2 engine
- SourceTV is NOT a priority
- they are working on match making system
- new money system
- no kevlar (this should be fixed in the future)
- maps are simplyfied for XBOX style, less ways, most fights are close range
- Hidden Path (Valve only finances the game) is trying to make all weapons balanced.

Valve is going to continue updating CS:S, and tomorrow they will also talk with the players about the future of CS:S..."


Original Text in some language I don't speak.

That's it guys, there's nothing to see here anymore, move along. It's just gonna be a console game.
Quote?
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 13 2011 02:56 GMT
#255
If what he says is true, this game is going to blow so hard lol. Whoever is in charge of Valve is stupid. This is going to completely trash the Counter Strike brand beyond repair.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 13 2011 02:59 GMT
#256
On August 13 2011 11:25 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
"Marek ".PhP" Kadek is one of the players in seattle. This is what he wrote on Playzone.cz :
- this game is not going to replace CS 1.6, or CS:S, it is primary made for consoles, PC version is just kind of a "bonus"
- at the moment, the game looks more like HL2DM
- There is no recoil and there will never be. (because of the consoles)
- the game runs on L4D2 engine
- SourceTV is NOT a priority
- they are working on match making system
- new money system
- no kevlar (this should be fixed in the future)
- maps are simplyfied for XBOX style, less ways, most fights are close range
- Hidden Path (Valve only finances the game) is trying to make all weapons balanced.

Valve is going to continue updating CS:S, and tomorrow they will also talk with the players about the future of CS:S..."


Original Text in some language I don't speak.

That's it guys, there's nothing to see here anymore, move along. It's just gonna be a console game.


Wow, screw that then. That is beyond disappointing.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#257
As long as it's free.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 03:05:17
August 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#258
Only inviting source pro players = fail
Not wanting to unite the two existing communities with the new game = Fail
Trying new things out to help further the game play = Win (if done correctly)
Doesn't play exactly like source = Win
Doesn't play exactly like 1.6 = Win

... I am hoping this can become a great game like I know it will have the potential to. I also hope it is A LOT better than source was when it first released (anyone who says source was good out of the box is delusional). I pray it can become the next good team FPS on the PC since the scene REALLY needs a new one.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 13 2011 03:08 GMT
#259
On August 13 2011 11:25 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
"Marek ".PhP" Kadek is one of the players in seattle. This is what he wrote on Playzone.cz :
- this game is not going to replace CS 1.6, or CS:S, it is primary made for consoles, PC version is just kind of a "bonus"
- at the moment, the game looks more like HL2DM
- There is no recoil and there will never be. (because of the consoles)
- the game runs on L4D2 engine
- SourceTV is NOT a priority
- they are working on match making system
- new money system
- no kevlar (this should be fixed in the future)
- maps are simplyfied for XBOX style, less ways, most fights are close range
- Hidden Path (Valve only finances the game) is trying to make all weapons balanced.

Valve is going to continue updating CS:S, and tomorrow they will also talk with the players about the future of CS:S..."


Original Text in some language I don't speak.

That's it guys, there's nothing to see here anymore, move along. It's just gonna be a console game.

If that is true, they better not be using the brand name of counterstrike.
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
August 13 2011 03:43 GMT
#260
It's not console only, but it will also be offered on consoles. As long as they tune it for the PC first then I don't really see a problem with it.

In fact, I would love Valve forever if they allowed PC players to play against console players online. Then all the console FPS noobs would be enlightened to how much better it is to play an FPS on a PC.
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