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Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 15 2012 15:58 GMT
#2181
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.
Living the liefe
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 15 2012 16:00 GMT
#2182
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.


Yo don't flame the hair dryer please.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 15 2012 16:02 GMT
#2183
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.



Seriously do you people play more than 15min before coming into this thread? SO many guns are viable in this game. I was sniping long distance with the pump shotty lol. You can also get shotty kills while jumping which some people may not like but i find refreshing. The gun variety is amazing so far.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
August 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#2184
On August 16 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 00:40 Shinobi1982 wrote:
kellymilkies played competitive cs before I think so I don't think she will get rag-dolled in pugs lol.

If that's true, one would think she could write some actual arguments instead of "game sux lol baithx".


Yeah, I would actually be interested in what she would have to say whats wrong with the game currently as a more credible source seeing as she played competitively before.

On a different note:

I know a big portion of hate comes from people loving the original and it not being as similiar as the thing they used to love or enjoy w/e the case. That comes with every new game and every new movie or a remix of song. People love the original and then hate part 2 because its not the original and its too this or not enough that or w/e. It's a little foolish to think that any gaming company would release the same game twice with new graphics or slight mods(which people will still bitch about) and expect to draw in a new crowd, get great sales and develop into a succussful future game.

Being CS, I dont expect it to be perfect on the first try but eventually it will get better. With slight changes with hitboxes and registry and w.e. flaws they might discover later on.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
August 15 2012 16:06 GMT
#2185
On August 16 2012 01:02 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.



Seriously do you people play more than 15min before coming into this thread? SO many guns are viable in this game. I was sniping long distance with the pump shotty lol. You can also get shotty kills while jumping which some people may not like but i find refreshing. The gun variety is amazing so far.


Sniping people with shotguns sounds legit... I haven't played it yet but I am a huge CS fan so I will soon ^_^
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 15 2012 16:10 GMT
#2186
On August 16 2012 01:02 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.



Seriously do you people play more than 15min before coming into this thread? SO many guns are viable in this game. I was sniping long distance with the pump shotty lol. You can also get shotty kills while jumping which some people may not like but i find refreshing. The gun variety is amazing so far.

If you look at the guns individually of course they seem viable. By comparison they are not so viable. Assault rifles are definitively the best, again.
Living the liefe
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
August 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#2187
On August 16 2012 01:05 Obstikal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:40 Shinobi1982 wrote:
kellymilkies played competitive cs before I think so I don't think she will get rag-dolled in pugs lol.

If that's true, one would think she could write some actual arguments instead of "game sux lol baithx".


Yeah, I would actually be interested in what she would have to say whats wrong with the game currently as a more credible source seeing as she played competitively before.

On a different note:

I know a big portion of hate comes from people loving the original and it not being as similiar as the thing they used to love or enjoy w/e the case. That comes with every new game and every new movie or a remix of song. People love the original and then hate part 2 because its not the original and its too this or not enough that or w/e. It's a little foolish to think that any gaming company would release the same game twice with new graphics or slight mods(which people will still bitch about) and expect to draw in a new crowd, get great sales and develop into a succussful future game.

Being CS, I dont expect it to be perfect on the first try but eventually it will get better. With slight changes with hitboxes and registry and w.e. flaws they might discover later on.

Quick search revels no connection with milkies and competitive cs so I take back what I said :D.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#2188
On August 16 2012 01:10 Soulstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:02 stratmatt wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.



Seriously do you people play more than 15min before coming into this thread? SO many guns are viable in this game. I was sniping long distance with the pump shotty lol. You can also get shotty kills while jumping which some people may not like but i find refreshing. The gun variety is amazing so far.

If you look at the guns individually of course they seem viable. By comparison they are not so viable. Assault rifles are definitively the best, again.



As they should be. I know cs isnt the most realistic game out there, but assault rifles are the weapon of choice for lots of special ops stuff the world over. It would be weird if a mac10 was more viable than an assault rifle lol.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
August 15 2012 16:15 GMT
#2189
the shotguns are so fun use. The heavy MG or w/e is super accurate in burst fire, and is pretty op imo. otherwise the bullets go everywhere else but the target XD
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#2190
On August 16 2012 01:12 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:05 Obstikal wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:40 Shinobi1982 wrote:
kellymilkies played competitive cs before I think so I don't think she will get rag-dolled in pugs lol.

If that's true, one would think she could write some actual arguments instead of "game sux lol baithx".


Yeah, I would actually be interested in what she would have to say whats wrong with the game currently as a more credible source seeing as she played competitively before.

On a different note:

I know a big portion of hate comes from people loving the original and it not being as similiar as the thing they used to love or enjoy w/e the case. That comes with every new game and every new movie or a remix of song. People love the original and then hate part 2 because its not the original and its too this or not enough that or w/e. It's a little foolish to think that any gaming company would release the same game twice with new graphics or slight mods(which people will still bitch about) and expect to draw in a new crowd, get great sales and develop into a succussful future game.

Being CS, I dont expect it to be perfect on the first try but eventually it will get better. With slight changes with hitboxes and registry and w.e. flaws they might discover later on.

Quick search revels no connection with milkies and competitive cs so I take back what I said :D.



Even if she did play 'competitively' I can assure you she was a nobody, especially if she was a source player. I dont mean to blow my own whistle but Ive played cs since beta 3, before it was even owned by valve and played as high as cal-m when CAL still existed. Ive seen more changes and internet arguments over recoil and movement than I care to remember. Everytime a new version was released it was this same shit all over again. People play for 15min, get owned, and say the update sucks.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 15 2012 16:22 GMT
#2191
On August 16 2012 01:16 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:12 Shinobi1982 wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:05 Obstikal wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:40 Shinobi1982 wrote:
kellymilkies played competitive cs before I think so I don't think she will get rag-dolled in pugs lol.

If that's true, one would think she could write some actual arguments instead of "game sux lol baithx".


Yeah, I would actually be interested in what she would have to say whats wrong with the game currently as a more credible source seeing as she played competitively before.

On a different note:

I know a big portion of hate comes from people loving the original and it not being as similiar as the thing they used to love or enjoy w/e the case. That comes with every new game and every new movie or a remix of song. People love the original and then hate part 2 because its not the original and its too this or not enough that or w/e. It's a little foolish to think that any gaming company would release the same game twice with new graphics or slight mods(which people will still bitch about) and expect to draw in a new crowd, get great sales and develop into a succussful future game.

Being CS, I dont expect it to be perfect on the first try but eventually it will get better. With slight changes with hitboxes and registry and w.e. flaws they might discover later on.

Quick search revels no connection with milkies and competitive cs so I take back what I said :D.



Even if she did play 'competitively' I can assure you she was a nobody, especially if she was a source player. I dont mean to blow my own whistle but Ive played cs since beta 3, before it was even owned by valve and played as high as cal-m when CAL still existed. Ive seen more changes and internet arguments over recoil and movement than I care to remember. Everytime a new version was released it was this same shit all over again. People play for 15min, get owned, and say the update sucks.

Im just praying its closer to CS 1.6 than its to source

My download is finishing!
Stork[gm]
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 15 2012 16:25 GMT
#2192
On August 16 2012 01:22 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:16 stratmatt wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:12 Shinobi1982 wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:05 Obstikal wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:40 Shinobi1982 wrote:
kellymilkies played competitive cs before I think so I don't think she will get rag-dolled in pugs lol.

If that's true, one would think she could write some actual arguments instead of "game sux lol baithx".


Yeah, I would actually be interested in what she would have to say whats wrong with the game currently as a more credible source seeing as she played competitively before.

On a different note:

I know a big portion of hate comes from people loving the original and it not being as similiar as the thing they used to love or enjoy w/e the case. That comes with every new game and every new movie or a remix of song. People love the original and then hate part 2 because its not the original and its too this or not enough that or w/e. It's a little foolish to think that any gaming company would release the same game twice with new graphics or slight mods(which people will still bitch about) and expect to draw in a new crowd, get great sales and develop into a succussful future game.

Being CS, I dont expect it to be perfect on the first try but eventually it will get better. With slight changes with hitboxes and registry and w.e. flaws they might discover later on.

Quick search revels no connection with milkies and competitive cs so I take back what I said :D.



Even if she did play 'competitively' I can assure you she was a nobody, especially if she was a source player. I dont mean to blow my own whistle but Ive played cs since beta 3, before it was even owned by valve and played as high as cal-m when CAL still existed. Ive seen more changes and internet arguments over recoil and movement than I care to remember. Everytime a new version was released it was this same shit all over again. People play for 15min, get owned, and say the update sucks.

Im just praying its closer to CS 1.6 than its to source

My download is finishing!



NICE! At first you are gonna think source when you see it(only x1000 better looking), but once you start trying to play it like source you will die so fast. Try strafe shooting and tapping 1.6 style and you will quickly notice yourself getting more kills. The spray patterns arnt exactly the same as 1.6 but the recoil behaves similarly, just gotta learn the new patterns. At long distance withr ifles i like to do rapid fire tapping rather than bursts.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 15 2012 16:27 GMT
#2193
It's most definitively closer to 1.6 than to source. The recoil is a lot different than 1.6, too, but for some reason it feels a lot "tighter" than CSS. Perhaps weapons do more damage?
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
August 15 2012 16:30 GMT
#2194
On August 16 2012 01:10 Soulstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:02 stratmatt wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.



Seriously do you people play more than 15min before coming into this thread? SO many guns are viable in this game. I was sniping long distance with the pump shotty lol. You can also get shotty kills while jumping which some people may not like but i find refreshing. The gun variety is amazing so far.

If you look at the guns individually of course they seem viable. By comparison they are not so viable. Assault rifles are definitively the best, again.

I've played about 40 hours and I feel like there is a lot of variety. I think that the P90 is unreal at short-medium distances and okay at long distances. The PP-Bison is quite good as well and is very cheap. The other three (MP9, MP7, and UMP) I feel are garbage at long distances and pretty awful in general (rather use a pistol). The shotguns are all very viable at short distances, as they should be, and the rifles are more expensive but more versatile. The heavy machine guns are avoidable and the pistols are all viable.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
August 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#2195
On August 16 2012 01:16 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:12 Shinobi1982 wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:05 Obstikal wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:40 Shinobi1982 wrote:
kellymilkies played competitive cs before I think so I don't think she will get rag-dolled in pugs lol.

If that's true, one would think she could write some actual arguments instead of "game sux lol baithx".


Yeah, I would actually be interested in what she would have to say whats wrong with the game currently as a more credible source seeing as she played competitively before.

On a different note:

I know a big portion of hate comes from people loving the original and it not being as similiar as the thing they used to love or enjoy w/e the case. That comes with every new game and every new movie or a remix of song. People love the original and then hate part 2 because its not the original and its too this or not enough that or w/e. It's a little foolish to think that any gaming company would release the same game twice with new graphics or slight mods(which people will still bitch about) and expect to draw in a new crowd, get great sales and develop into a succussful future game.

Being CS, I dont expect it to be perfect on the first try but eventually it will get better. With slight changes with hitboxes and registry and w.e. flaws they might discover later on.

Quick search revels no connection with milkies and competitive cs so I take back what I said :D.



Even if she did play 'competitively' I can assure you she was a nobody, especially if she was a source player. I dont mean to blow my own whistle but Ive played cs since beta 3, before it was even owned by valve and played as high as cal-m when CAL still existed. Ive seen more changes and internet arguments over recoil and movement than I care to remember. Everytime a new version was released it was this same shit all over again. People play for 15min, get owned, and say the update sucks.


Well what is your take on the game and some of the negativitiy about it ?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#2196
can someone tell me about hitboxes? source's lag interp+hitboxes made the game unplayable for me. is this present here too?
starleague forever
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#2197
the pp-bizon is not good! i swear i thought it would be awesome with a 64shot clip but the thing takes like 12 shots to kill anything. its great for turning corners and taking someones head off real quick but in a straight up gun battle it will not get the job done.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
August 15 2012 16:34 GMT
#2198
Sniping is really strange for a source game too. The crosshair goes out of focus if you move while its scoped in.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 15 2012 16:34 GMT
#2199
I just bought it for 10€ ( a little bit less ). I hope I won't regret it =)
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19230 Posts
August 15 2012 16:35 GMT
#2200
On August 16 2012 01:30 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:10 Soulstice wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:02 stratmatt wrote:
On August 16 2012 00:58 Soulstice wrote:
I was really hoping that this game wasnt going to be rifles only, but from what ive played so far it is. Shotguns are god awful, and smgs can get you kills, but rifles can kill just as fast close range, and have full map capabilities. It's still a fun game, i was just hoping for more gun diversity this time around.



Seriously do you people play more than 15min before coming into this thread? SO many guns are viable in this game. I was sniping long distance with the pump shotty lol. You can also get shotty kills while jumping which some people may not like but i find refreshing. The gun variety is amazing so far.

If you look at the guns individually of course they seem viable. By comparison they are not so viable. Assault rifles are definitively the best, again.

I've played about 40 hours and I feel like there is a lot of variety. I think that the P90 is unreal at short-medium distances and okay at long distances. The PP-Bison is quite good as well and is very cheap. The other three (MP9, MP7, and UMP) I feel are garbage at long distances and pretty awful in general (rather use a pistol). The shotguns are all very viable at short distances, as they should be, and the rifles are more expensive but more versatile. The heavy machine guns are avoidable and the pistols are all viable.

WAT

MP7 is amazing, even long distance
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