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On August 12 2011 03:26 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 03:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 12 2011 03:07 Sentenal wrote:On August 12 2011 03:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On an unrelated note, I've always hated how needed Serra and Priscilla are (and how much better they are than other mages -_-), cause I've always hated both of them lol. Erk is like one of the best units in the game iirc, and Pent is amazing considering that he requires no effort at all to use. Its been a while since I've actually paid attention to the people who make Hard Mode tier lists lol Erk and Pent are both pretty good, and Pent is kinda required for a couple levels right after you get him, but Priscilla and Serra, IIRC, still blow everyone else out of the water in terms of tier list. Pretty sure they're right under Marcus at the top by most lists lol. Well, like I've said, its been a while, and I do know those two are near the top, but I'm just saying Erk is too. I don't remember if he was considered "Top" or "High", but hes up there. IIRC, a big reason why those two are so high is because they are your early healers, and therefore their utility is incredible. Combat wise, I don't know if they are that much better than Erk. Similar reason why Matthew is Top Tier as well. Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 03:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 12 2011 03:01 Retgery wrote:
Though Sacred Stones was probably the easiest of the series, I did like that the game gave you 2 options for when your class change. It would of been nicer if one option wasn't always insanely better than the other one. Who in their right mind would change Joshua in an assassin over a Sword master? Or Gerik into a Ranger over a Hero? Ranger is the better option. You think so? http://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=gerik&game=8ehttp://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=gerik2&game=8eThe trade off between Ranger and Hero, is one gets a horse/bow, while the other gets Axes. Axes>>>>>Bows, but having a horsy is nice. It would be a clear decision if it was a FE4/9/10 horse, but thats not the case here. Gerik's combat power is certainly better by alot if you give him axes, but he gets alot more MOV if you make him a ranger. I don't think one is really that much better than the other.
I think the utility of a horse is just absurd. Sure, axes are nice, but you're not really in desperate need of axe users in most of SS. I'm of the opinion that increased mobility is like the number one stat in FE7/8. The stats for Hero and Ranger pan out to be about a same, you can argue that the extra POW point from Ranger level up is wasted since both max POW anyways, but you also get more DEF and RES which I think is a better tradeoff than 1 HP and some SPD/SKL.
Horses are just OP :<
And I can definitely see Erk being higher htan those 2 on some metrics, since IIRC he has better stats. But still. Priscilla has a HORSE. HORSES OP xD
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On August 12 2011 03:28 Juddas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 03:01 Retgery wrote:
Though Sacred Stones was probably the easiest of the series, I did like that the game gave you 2 options for when your class change. It would of been nicer if one option wasn't always insanely better than the other one. Who in their right mind would change Joshua in an assassin over a Sword master? Or Gerik into a Ranger over a Hero? Haha I almost always went Assassin. To be totally honest I thought all of the options were fairly balanced.
I also really liked the super trainee, it gave you some really nice choices, and variety in your play though
Any one else remember the glitch in FE8 that let you teach dark magic to any unit in the game?
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The trainee's were amazing. Ross was so OP. You got him in Ch. 2 and then can train him through the rest of the game. But, with him I actually didn't ever go super trainee because he had such low Con for an axe wielder. I actually think he was the best warrior from any FE
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On August 12 2011 03:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 03:26 Sentenal wrote:On August 12 2011 03:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 12 2011 03:07 Sentenal wrote:On August 12 2011 03:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On an unrelated note, I've always hated how needed Serra and Priscilla are (and how much better they are than other mages -_-), cause I've always hated both of them lol. Erk is like one of the best units in the game iirc, and Pent is amazing considering that he requires no effort at all to use. Its been a while since I've actually paid attention to the people who make Hard Mode tier lists lol Erk and Pent are both pretty good, and Pent is kinda required for a couple levels right after you get him, but Priscilla and Serra, IIRC, still blow everyone else out of the water in terms of tier list. Pretty sure they're right under Marcus at the top by most lists lol. Well, like I've said, its been a while, and I do know those two are near the top, but I'm just saying Erk is too. I don't remember if he was considered "Top" or "High", but hes up there. IIRC, a big reason why those two are so high is because they are your early healers, and therefore their utility is incredible. Combat wise, I don't know if they are that much better than Erk. Similar reason why Matthew is Top Tier as well. On August 12 2011 03:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 12 2011 03:01 Retgery wrote:
Though Sacred Stones was probably the easiest of the series, I did like that the game gave you 2 options for when your class change. It would of been nicer if one option wasn't always insanely better than the other one. Who in their right mind would change Joshua in an assassin over a Sword master? Or Gerik into a Ranger over a Hero? Ranger is the better option. You think so? http://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=gerik&game=8ehttp://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=gerik2&game=8eThe trade off between Ranger and Hero, is one gets a horse/bow, while the other gets Axes. Axes>>>>>Bows, but having a horsy is nice. It would be a clear decision if it was a FE4/9/10 horse, but thats not the case here. Gerik's combat power is certainly better by alot if you give him axes, but he gets alot more MOV if you make him a ranger. I don't think one is really that much better than the other. I think the utility of a horse is just absurd. Sure, axes are nice, but you're not really in desperate need of axe users in most of SS. I'm of the opinion that increased mobility is like the number one stat in FE7/8. The stats for Hero and Ranger pan out to be about a same, you can argue that the extra POW point from Ranger level up is wasted since both max POW anyways, but you also get more DEF and RES which I think is a better tradeoff than 1 HP and some SPD/SKL. Horses are just OP :<
The extra SPD that Heros gets helps double attacking, though IDK if it actually makes much of a difference. As for FE8 having plenty of Axes, I don't know if that really matters. Its not like you are limited to a certain number of Axes, and Axes are the best physical weapon in the game, so the more the better, right? I think it comes down to which you favor more, 1 more MOV, or better combat power. I normally go with the better combat power, but I don't think either one is the more correct choice.
Gerik's support affinity is Thunder, right? Gerik with A Support with that Dancer gives him Full Avoid, and Gerik is already pretty fast, so IMO the extra point of DEF and RES he gets isn't as important, since he would rarely get hit anyway. Plus I think he gets full Avoid from all his possible partners other than Joshua and lolSalah. SPD is a stat you can't make up for with weapons or support, so an extra point there is really nice.
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I didn't play FE8 as throroughly as FE7, but I've always found that he can avoid basically all the monsters without any special need for supports anyways. Gerik wasn't someone I really focused on getting supports with often, I think most I ever had for him was a B support.
FE8 didn't have rankings like FE7 did, so I never really exhaustively played through all the possibilities, so you might be right that the Avoid is really helpful. BUT HORSES XD
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I got RNG screwed with both Erk (once) and Priscilla (twice, wtf?), so I kinda hate them xD
Dorcas can be quite good, and is an awesome guy to boot. Bartre can also be ok but is no powerhouse like other axe users. They are still underrated IMO.
Not talking about any extra hard modes and off the top of my head of course. I played the games long ago and I was never an expert.
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Reading through this thread brings back so much fond memories. ><" !~
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On August 12 2011 04:50 Salteador Neo wrote:
I got RNG screwed with both Erk (once) and Priscilla (twice, wtf?), so I kinda hate them xD
Dorcas can be quite good, and is an awesome guy to boot. Bartre can also be ok but is no powerhouse like other axe users. They are still underrated IMO.
Not talking about any extra hard modes and off the top of my head of course. I played the games long ago and I was never an expert.
Well, this gets back to what I was saying a few pages ago, about how you define what a good character is. If you are playing a non-ranked normal mode run, then obviously tons more characters are playable. Those that help out on a hard mode ranked run, is much more exclusive.
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On August 12 2011 04:50 Salteador Neo wrote:
I got RNG screwed with both Erk (once) and Priscilla (twice, wtf?), so I kinda hate them xD
Dorcas can be quite good, and is an awesome guy to boot. Bartre can also be ok but is no powerhouse like other axe users. They are still underrated IMO.
Not talking about any extra hard modes and off the top of my head of course. I played the games long ago and I was never an expert.
I think FE7 was the one game i didnt like using axe users in.
In FE6 i made sure to use both Geese and Gonzales though. Memories of those 2 + one of the healing classes holding off endless numbers of Wyverns in some of the later levels were nice. Not to mention the 30% crit Berserkers get in FE6 compared to 7 and so on.
Actually i take that back, the only axe user i used in FE7 was Dart, cause i think Berserkers are my favorite class or were at the time of playing that game
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FE 12 Translation Project
Looks like they're starting this up again, since Nintendo isn't going to localize this outside Japan. I'm pretty stoked :D
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Is it official they aren't localizing? If so I will be pretty pissed. I want to play it on my new 3DS
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FE4 is, by far, my favorite one. Honestly, this game does not really belong to the serie. The sheer size of the maps and the complete brokeness of the characters gives it a completely different gameplay from the other FE (though you'll still retain most of the tactics specific to the area-divided-in-squares games)
To measure how much the game impressed me, I have to say that after fifteen years of gaming, it's among my top three, alongside with Baldur's Gate and Metroid Prime. Sure, I love Starcraft, may it be BW or SC2, but it can't compete with such a massive experience that is FE4.
Funny thing, I still remember 5 years after all the legendary weapons, all the noble houses, ans surely most of the cast.
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On August 12 2011 12:14 Juddas wrote:
Is it official they aren't localizing? If so I will be pretty pissed. I want to play it on my new 3DS
It isn't official that they aren't localizing, but neither is it official that they are localizing. The lack of any word on Nintendo's behalf right now points to it being a Japan-only release. Furthermore, I've been hearing that it's been region locked on DSi.
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well shoots. that is very disappointing. I see no reason for them to do that. This game has been released in America since FE7 and they really don't need to stop now. How hard much does it cost them to just write it in English? It has been so long since the last one, but to know there isn't much possibility for me to play a new is depressing. I might even pay a slightly inflated price, to justify the apparently substantial cost of localizing a finished game.
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Just get the Japanese copy and use the translation patch that's in the works.
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But that is on an Emulator. I want the thrill of getting a legit version, opening it up, reading the manual like a boss, putting it in, and playing it on my 45 minute daily car rides. I think that is what a game should be, and all of my nostalgia comes from times when I do that.
It's the experience as well as the game man
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On August 12 2011 13:37 Juddas wrote:
But that is on an Emulator. I want the thrill of getting a legit version, opening it up, reading the manual like a boss, putting it in, and playing it on my 45 minute daily car rides. I think that is what a game should be, and all of my nostalgia comes from times when I do that.
It's the experience as well as the game man
I'm talking about getting something like an R4, downloading the Japanese version, and patching it - you still play it on your DS. It's unfortunate that I'm pirating my most beloved SRPG series, but when they don't fucking localize, there's nothing else I can do to play it, except for learning Japanese, haha. The only thing you'll miss is the manual if you do that  Hell, if you want, you can import the Japanese version, proceed to download the game file and put it on your R4 or R4-equivalent, patch, and it'll be pretty much legit.
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haha well I'm afraid I don't really want to do that. i'm afraid I am not cool enough to do it that way.
Wait a second.... Could i DL on an SD card and then play it through my 3DS? How would that work logistically?
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On August 12 2011 13:44 Juddas wrote:
haha well I'm afraid I don't really want to do that. i'm afraid I am not cool enough to do it that way.
Wait a second.... Could i DL on an SD card and then play it through my 3DS? How would that work logistically?
I don't think so. You'd need a micro SD adapter (R4, CycloDS, etc.). It's unfortunate, but it's pretty much the only way to enjoy the great games released in Japan that sadly don't get translations.
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So the built in SD slot on the 3DS would be useless in terms of ROMS and games?
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