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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
August 12 2011 09:11 GMT
#281
Ah I knew that my instincts were right when I first looked at Sothe, I thought, "This kid looks annoying" lol. Augh I hate the herp derp mindless follower type characters, but yeah I'll be sure to shove some experience his way to make sure he doesn't die later. >__>;

And yes I hate it whenever a Wyvern Rider is out destroying everything in its path, and then lolwhoops here comes a mage and blasts it to near death. They usually survive though so I just stab the annoying thing next turn. :D
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#282
On August 12 2011 17:35 HolyArrow wrote:
@Spica: IMO Sothe is annoying as hell. He just herp derp follows Micaiah with mindless devotion even when she's being really stupid and/or stubborn. Not one of my favorite characters at all. As for stat's, he's... okay, I guess. You don't really want to use him at the beginning because he's already promoted and just leeches XP, and then he's extremely useful for a while when the Dawn Brigade is all alone, but after a certain point, he becomes pretty obsolete in my experience. Not bad, but many stronger characters are available. =_=;;

If FE10 has any weaknesses, I agree that it's lack of support convos. However, the game is so damn long that IMO that makes up for it. You're in for a treat if Wyvern Riders are your favorite classes, because Haar is easily one of the best characters in Radiant Dawn. Most players end up with him as their rank 1 in kills/usage in a playthrough without even trying because he's so good.


I most definitely did lol.
But really, about Sothe, since you have to use him, and he has that great support with Micaiah, he can actually turn out fairly useful he has been kept up to date on his levels. I know his growths outstrip his class by a lot because I maxed on Strength, Speed, and Skill on level 3 or 4 of whisper.

Actually, I take that all back. He sucks. Would you like to know why? He has the almost coolest ability in the game once he becomes a Whisper. HE will almost kill someone. It's like Mercy, but with a critical. So yeah I guess Bane sure is his.

Buzzinga
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
August 12 2011 12:25 GMT
#283
On August 12 2011 21:02 Juddas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:35 HolyArrow wrote:
@Spica: IMO Sothe is annoying as hell. He just herp derp follows Micaiah with mindless devotion even when she's being really stupid and/or stubborn. Not one of my favorite characters at all. As for stat's, he's... okay, I guess. You don't really want to use him at the beginning because he's already promoted and just leeches XP, and then he's extremely useful for a while when the Dawn Brigade is all alone, but after a certain point, he becomes pretty obsolete in my experience. Not bad, but many stronger characters are available. =_=;;

If FE10 has any weaknesses, I agree that it's lack of support convos. However, the game is so damn long that IMO that makes up for it. You're in for a treat if Wyvern Riders are your favorite classes, because Haar is easily one of the best characters in Radiant Dawn. Most players end up with him as their rank 1 in kills/usage in a playthrough without even trying because he's so good.


I most definitely did lol.
But really, about Sothe, since you have to use him, and he has that great support with Micaiah, he can actually turn out fairly useful he has been kept up to date on his levels. I know his growths outstrip his class by a lot because I maxed on Strength, Speed, and Skill on level 3 or 4 of whisper.

Actually, I take that all back. He sucks. Would you like to know why? He has the almost coolest ability in the game once he becomes a Whisper. HE will almost kill someone. It's like Mercy, but with a critical. So yeah I guess Bane sure is his.

Buzzinga


It's actually pretty good if you want to feed a lower leveled unit some kills/EXP, but the point in time Sothe class changes, however...
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 12 2011 12:31 GMT
#284
Well yeah, but what I hate most about it is that it is allllmmost cool and awesome, but never really all that useful. Lethality, on the other hand, that's a cool ability.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 12 2011 22:18 GMT
#285
FE10 has no support conversations, but the tradeoff is you can support anyone together.

In FE9, Haar comes rather late, but is still a decent RNG proof unit if you want to use him. Jill in FE9 is one of the best characters in the game, and at one point in time, was considered the best.

In FE10 Haar is either one of the best, or THE best. Personally I think Haar is THE best unit in normal mode, but in Hard Mode hes still among the best. Jill is still very good in FE10, she just isn't around as much as Haar, and when you get her, she isn't as godly as Haar comes when you get him. Oh yeah, in FE10, Wyverns aren't weak vs Bows. LOL.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 12 2011 23:07 GMT
#286
Now is a good time to share our horrible RNG-screwed stories.

I just got hit by 2 6%s in a row, and then failed to hit an 83% right after that. The frustration is hard to describe right now. Oh, and in FE10 Hard Mode, I was 1 hit away from killing a boss, and had 2 chances to do so, both 80%. Needless to say, I missed twice, and a unit died the next turn. >_<
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
August 13 2011 01:37 GMT
#287
On August 13 2011 07:18 Sentenal wrote:
FE10 has no support conversations, but the tradeoff is you can support anyone together.

In FE9, Haar comes rather late, but is still a decent RNG proof unit if you want to use him. Jill in FE9 is one of the best characters in the game, and at one point in time, was considered the best.

In FE10 Haar is either one of the best, or THE best. Personally I think Haar is THE best unit in normal mode, but in Hard Mode hes still among the best. Jill is still very good in FE10, she just isn't around as much as Haar, and when you get her, she isn't as godly as Haar comes when you get him. Oh yeah, in FE10, Wyverns aren't weak vs Bows. LOL.

...it looks like FE9 and FE10 has specially decided to make Wyvern Riders even more imba for Wyvern Rider lovers and abusers like me. I think I know who's going to be my new favorite character when I get around to playing FE9 and FE10.

And RNG-screwed story time? I'm still playing through normal mode on FE8, and Ross failed to hit a knight with a 97% hit chance... My face: :|
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#288
I just got a fantastic level up. Nothing changed. Surprisingly on Priscilla
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#289
On August 13 2011 11:04 Juddas wrote:
I just got a fantastic level up. Nothing changed. Surprisingly on Priscilla


At least for those you get to be like "wow, not a single point." Even worse are the ones where like...you get a lone HP point or something, as if the RNG is there, mocking you.
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Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 13 2011 02:45 GMT
#290
haha or maybe a magic point for somebody like Ike
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 13 2011 03:49 GMT
#291
On August 13 2011 11:04 Juddas wrote:
I just got a fantastic level up. Nothing changed. Surprisingly on Priscilla


Despite Priscilla supposedly being good, I often got crappy level ups with her too. Seems to be a trend with troubadours for some reason. Just bad luck -_-;;
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
August 13 2011 03:51 GMT
#292
I first played FE7, and then FE8. They were probably my favorite GBA games of all time.. So many hours of fun.
(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 13 2011 03:58 GMT
#293
On August 13 2011 10:37 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 07:18 Sentenal wrote:
FE10 has no support conversations, but the tradeoff is you can support anyone together.

In FE9, Haar comes rather late, but is still a decent RNG proof unit if you want to use him. Jill in FE9 is one of the best characters in the game, and at one point in time, was considered the best.

In FE10 Haar is either one of the best, or THE best. Personally I think Haar is THE best unit in normal mode, but in Hard Mode hes still among the best. Jill is still very good in FE10, she just isn't around as much as Haar, and when you get her, she isn't as godly as Haar comes when you get him. Oh yeah, in FE10, Wyverns aren't weak vs Bows. LOL.

...it looks like FE9 and FE10 has specially decided to make Wyvern Riders even more imba for Wyvern Rider lovers and abusers like me. I think I know who's going to be my new favorite character when I get around to playing FE9 and FE10.

And RNG-screwed story time? I'm still playing through normal mode on FE8, and Ross failed to hit a knight with a 97% hit chance... My face: :|

I know just how you feel I've always been a Wyvern Fanboy.

FE4, my favorite unit was Altenna, and I was disappointed there was no Gen 1 Wyvern (although Trabant was a huge badass). FE6, Miledy was always my best unit. I remember wasting so much time in old FE debates, arguing Miledy vs the likes of Alan, Percival, etc. FE7 kinda didn't have good Wyverns. Heath is pretty much Nino on a dragon, and I don't like units like that. Although I remember I did a long debate arguing on behalf of Heath too, in the ancient past. FE8 was Cormag, too good. FE9, Jill/Haar, too good. Esepcially Jill. FE10, Haar, LOL. Jill too. Chapter 1 and 4 (and end of 3), my Jill was an absolute monster. Chapter 2/3/4, my Haar just lol'd at entire maps. Nothing could touch him.

In FE10, even though Bows no longer have bonus damage vs Wyverns, they replaced it with Thunder Mages getting bonus vs them, but really, all that means is when the missions start, I check the map for Thunder Mages, and rape accordingly.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 13 2011 04:03 GMT
#294
could someone point me to a decent english patch for FE4? the one I downloaded only translated the story, names, and dialogue
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 04:19:38
August 13 2011 04:15 GMT
#295
On August 13 2011 13:03 Juddas wrote:
could someone point me to a decent english patch for FE4? the one I downloaded only translated the story, names, and dialogue

Try this:
http://darktwilkitri.thegreatbeyond.net/dtntd_fireemblem4.php


Also, since you guys are talking about RNG screwage, I though that I'd rub in the fact that its impossible for Miledy in FE6 Hard Mode to get RNG screwed.
[image loading]
This is Miledy when you first get her. She is a level 10 Wyvern Rider. Yes, Tier 1. Unrpromoted. Her base stats are better than some 20/20 stats of people in FE7.

Before promotion, my 19/0 Miledy:
[image loading]

So, later in that playthrough, here is what my Miledy looked like as a level 20/6 Wyvern Lord:
[image loading]
lolololololol Miledy too good.


Of course, FE6 has really crazy enemies as well. For example, in Sacae, there is a Swordmaster Boss called Gel.
[image loading]
This guy is crazy, and there is still a decent chunk of the game remaining. I wonder how my Miledy would do against this guy...

[image loading]
lol


FE6 was crazy though. Chapter 21 IIRC was real fun. You get to fight Bern's main army. Here are screen shots from various parts of the mission:
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Thats alot of Wyverns. I wonder what their stats were...
[image loading]
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For generic enemies, these dudes are tough >_>
Oh yeah, the Wyvern Lords had Silver Lances IIRC. Fun.


Finally, completely unreleated to FE6. Alvis in FE4 was crazy:
[image loading]
Imagine fighting that guy when hes sitting on a Castle. Real fun.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
August 13 2011 04:27 GMT
#296
Ch21 in FE6 was amazing. I remember tightly packing a box of Wade/Miredy/One of the Valks/Gonzo/Alan/The Etrurian Pally General and barrelling through. And then you had to face Murdock, who to date is my favourite enemy in the series (the manga really played up his awesome).

Granted, I never had the patience for hard mode. ):

As for FE12's my unit, I can only say it was about time. After spending 6 years on a message board that had its own character building/battling/map event system and RPs, as well as goofing around with hex/assembly editors on the GBA game, it's good to know that IS finally let players experiment a bit.

Oh, on RNG - My Eliwoods usually had the strangest final stats. Be it 15 speed or 27 res at 20/20, they'd never be quite average.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 13 2011 04:47 GMT
#297
I just started playing FE4 and I've chosen to play it on a droid phone. I'm a veteran of FE 6-7 and I've pretty much played those games to death. It seems this game is a tad harder than those games, but I've beaten both of those games on hard mode so this should be fun.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
August 13 2011 05:59 GMT
#298
On August 13 2011 12:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 10:37 Spica wrote:
On August 13 2011 07:18 Sentenal wrote:
FE10 has no support conversations, but the tradeoff is you can support anyone together.

In FE9, Haar comes rather late, but is still a decent RNG proof unit if you want to use him. Jill in FE9 is one of the best characters in the game, and at one point in time, was considered the best.

In FE10 Haar is either one of the best, or THE best. Personally I think Haar is THE best unit in normal mode, but in Hard Mode hes still among the best. Jill is still very good in FE10, she just isn't around as much as Haar, and when you get her, she isn't as godly as Haar comes when you get him. Oh yeah, in FE10, Wyverns aren't weak vs Bows. LOL.

...it looks like FE9 and FE10 has specially decided to make Wyvern Riders even more imba for Wyvern Rider lovers and abusers like me. I think I know who's going to be my new favorite character when I get around to playing FE9 and FE10.

And RNG-screwed story time? I'm still playing through normal mode on FE8, and Ross failed to hit a knight with a 97% hit chance... My face: :|

I know just how you feel I've always been a Wyvern Fanboy.

FE4, my favorite unit was Altenna, and I was disappointed there was no Gen 1 Wyvern (although Trabant was a huge badass). FE6, Miledy was always my best unit. I remember wasting so much time in old FE debates, arguing Miledy vs the likes of Alan, Percival, etc. FE7 kinda didn't have good Wyverns. Heath is pretty much Nino on a dragon, and I don't like units like that. Although I remember I did a long debate arguing on behalf of Heath too, in the ancient past. FE8 was Cormag, too good. FE9, Jill/Haar, too good. Esepcially Jill. FE10, Haar, LOL. Jill too. Chapter 1 and 4 (and end of 3), my Jill was an absolute monster. Chapter 2/3/4, my Haar just lol'd at entire maps. Nothing could touch him.

In FE10, even though Bows no longer have bonus damage vs Wyverns, they replaced it with Thunder Mages getting bonus vs them, but really, all that means is when the missions start, I check the map for Thunder Mages, and rape accordingly.

Hellz yeah Wyvern Riders! Nothing can kill them and I love seeing them tear through entire battlefields without breaking a sweat. :D Miledy and Zeiss were ridiculous in FE6; I'd just park them near armies and watch them destroy everything in sight. Oh that delicious A support of theirs. I thought Heath was a wimp in FE7; my Fiona could school him lol, but he was still quite useful. All this reverence for Haar makes me want to ditch FE8 as soon as I finish it and start playing FE9 ASAP. *Hype*

On August 13 2011 13:27 LunaSaint wrote:
Oh, on RNG - My Eliwoods usually had the strangest final stats. Be it 15 speed or 27 res at 20/20, they'd never be quite average.

LOL an Eliwood with 27 Res?! Your Eliwood was fit to be a mage lmfao.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 13 2011 06:01 GMT
#299
On August 13 2011 14:59 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:58 Sentenal wrote:
On August 13 2011 10:37 Spica wrote:
On August 13 2011 07:18 Sentenal wrote:
FE10 has no support conversations, but the tradeoff is you can support anyone together.

In FE9, Haar comes rather late, but is still a decent RNG proof unit if you want to use him. Jill in FE9 is one of the best characters in the game, and at one point in time, was considered the best.

In FE10 Haar is either one of the best, or THE best. Personally I think Haar is THE best unit in normal mode, but in Hard Mode hes still among the best. Jill is still very good in FE10, she just isn't around as much as Haar, and when you get her, she isn't as godly as Haar comes when you get him. Oh yeah, in FE10, Wyverns aren't weak vs Bows. LOL.

...it looks like FE9 and FE10 has specially decided to make Wyvern Riders even more imba for Wyvern Rider lovers and abusers like me. I think I know who's going to be my new favorite character when I get around to playing FE9 and FE10.

And RNG-screwed story time? I'm still playing through normal mode on FE8, and Ross failed to hit a knight with a 97% hit chance... My face: :|

I know just how you feel I've always been a Wyvern Fanboy.

FE4, my favorite unit was Altenna, and I was disappointed there was no Gen 1 Wyvern (although Trabant was a huge badass). FE6, Miledy was always my best unit. I remember wasting so much time in old FE debates, arguing Miledy vs the likes of Alan, Percival, etc. FE7 kinda didn't have good Wyverns. Heath is pretty much Nino on a dragon, and I don't like units like that. Although I remember I did a long debate arguing on behalf of Heath too, in the ancient past. FE8 was Cormag, too good. FE9, Jill/Haar, too good. Esepcially Jill. FE10, Haar, LOL. Jill too. Chapter 1 and 4 (and end of 3), my Jill was an absolute monster. Chapter 2/3/4, my Haar just lol'd at entire maps. Nothing could touch him.

In FE10, even though Bows no longer have bonus damage vs Wyverns, they replaced it with Thunder Mages getting bonus vs them, but really, all that means is when the missions start, I check the map for Thunder Mages, and rape accordingly.

Hellz yeah Wyvern Riders! Nothing can kill them and I love seeing them tear through entire battlefields without breaking a sweat. :D Miledy and Zeiss were ridiculous in FE6; I'd just park them near armies and watch them destroy everything in sight. Oh that delicious A support of theirs. I thought Heath was a wimp in FE7; my Fiona could school him lol, but he was still quite useful. All this reverence for Haar makes me want to ditch FE8 as soon as I finish it and start playing FE9 ASAP. *Hype*

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 13:27 LunaSaint wrote:
Oh, on RNG - My Eliwoods usually had the strangest final stats. Be it 15 speed or 27 res at 20/20, they'd never be quite average.

LOL an Eliwood with 27 Res?! Your Eliwood was fit to be a mage lmfao.

Did you ever do the Sacae Route in FE6, give Miledy the Delphi Shield, and send her out alone in that one battle with like a million Nomads?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Eliwood5837
Profile Joined July 2011
245 Posts
August 13 2011 06:01 GMT
#300
i feel like a complete scrub at fire emblem after reading these forum posts....
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