EPTAlthough that video of CRUEL malachai 1-shotting a 4.6k hp level 75 char does indicate that maybe the smash could do a bit less damage.
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Although that video of CRUEL malachai 1-shotting a 4.6k hp level 75 char does indicate that maybe the smash could do a bit less damage. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:16 Sn0_Man wrote: Last patch didn't make any of the damage numbers go down so you'd still die. The point of the malachai fight much like atziri fights isn't to tank shit its to evade shit aka make you play smart. The slams are easy as fuck to dodge anyway they couldn't be more telegraphed really Although that video of CRUEL malachai 1-shotting a 4.6k hp level 75 char does indicate that maybe the smash could do a bit less damage. Idk, he teleports to you and slams in like 1,5 sec, it's way faster than for example Vaal so it definitely could be easier. Besides there is always some other things that happen. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
then there's about a second before he teleports then another second or more before the slam hits so while yeah maybe theres only 1 second to dodge from when he teleports you have an easy 2 seconds of knowledge that he's slamming for u to quit ur current activity and run like fuck that said the fight is hilariously punishing for melee to the point where I have no idea how I'd even try to do it. Flame totem scumming it is what worked for me although you can definitely do it as say tornado shot etc too. For me the hardest part of the malachi fight is simply avoiding the traps on the ground + the degen ground + the flying balls from the triple ball things + the tentacles + the thrown shit that turns into degen ground all at the same time I was never one for bullet hell games and if u get stunned by something u can really get into trouble on that fight. | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On July 13 2015 22:30 ChunderBoy wrote: am i supposed to actually plan a build or just go with the flow. ive only palyed this game once before in some hardcore league i forgot the name and i go to lvl 71 using heavy strike only Use a fotm op build, you'll have more fun. Path of Exile has enough RNG in it to make you rage. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:16 Sn0_Man wrote: Last patch didn't make any of the damage numbers go down so you'd still die. The point of the malachai fight much like atziri fights isn't to tank shit its to evade shit aka make you play smart. The slams are easy as fuck to dodge anyway they couldn't be more telegraphed really Although that video of CRUEL malachai 1-shotting a 4.6k hp level 75 char does indicate that maybe the smash could do a bit less damage. I like the second phase where the mechanics of the fight are introduced gradually as well. Very well designed fight where everything is telegraphed and you never feel like that was bullshit and I only died because I didn't know what was coming. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:29 HolydaKing wrote: Just had my first deathless Malachai, but it was on Warbands and with Flametotem. I guess if you have all the time to dodge and know the fight it's rather easy. post nerf pleb jkjk another thing about that fight is the colour scheme sucks hard everything is red, brown, or reddish-brown to the point where it's simply not visually intuitive what effect is happening at any given time (except TENTACLES and SMASH obviously). Most fights I can usually focus visually on the boss for cues and play dodge the circles with my peripheral vision but in this fight that is much harder due to how everything runs together visually. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:33 Sn0_Man wrote: post nerf pleb jkjk another thing about that fight is the colour scheme sucks hard everything is red, brown, or reddish-brown to the point where it's simply not visually intuitive what effect is happening at any given time (except TENTACLES and SMASH obviously). Most fights I can usually focus visually on the boss for cues and play dodge the circles with my peripheral vision but in this fight that is much harder due to how everything runs together visually. Hah, true point, it was post nerf. Still, I think if you know the fight it helps quite a bit... but still sucks for melee cause you won't really get to attack much and will get damaged regardless by all the minions and aoe ground effects. Also your points regarding visibility are right. Needs some more colors IMO and maybe a tad less effects. | ||
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Ota Solgryn
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HolydaKing
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On July 14 2015 05:45 Ota Solgryn wrote: awakening strongest melee build? HC or SC? I quite like 2h sweep builds, axe/sword/staff crit if SC or mace/axe RT on HC. If you need a build there's probably some on the forums. Though most people play Ice Crash or Cyclone instead. I think Sweep has the highest clear speed though if you are able to one shot things (requires good weapon tho) and have increased aoe gem / nodes. Cyclone is pretty fun though. Ice Crash IMO is the least fun because you either need to hit the enemy or use Shift. Sweep is awesome cuz you can just right click and it attacks the whole screen (with 50+% inc aoe at least). | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecCEQMAAycFLQYgBjkJMwz3Dc0OPBDwFE0UcRUgGJEZtBpVG5cbqhv6HHgcziFgJd8ppStQLYMwfDGwMgkyfjWSNug6UjwtPQ894kCgQzFE0krITGBNRk99UWBW-ldUWHVYr1pSYSFhUmLsYxdsRm6qcmx0oHTtdPF1y3fXeA16736afyuAVoE6g8yE74ZgiO2Ks41-k6ibXaOKo-ekGaiaqW6playvr6e18rYstz68n76nwBrAv8EHwYLE9sauy_XNmNE21FLXftfL2L3awdy94e_iLOXF5w_qYu4O7nrvevJa8pfzBvVG9qP6GPuq_Ev-Cv5U build at current level + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecUTRiRGlUceDIJMn41kjboOlJKyFivWlJhIWxGbqpybHgNiO2bXaiaqW6p-rXyvJ_AGti94e_lxfKX9Ub8Sw== probs also worth mentioning this is hardcore. any tips? | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On July 14 2015 06:34 Meavis wrote: been tinkering with my shitty spectral thrown and don't die scion build again, this is what I got so far. + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecDAAUtBiAGOQaiCTMM9w3NDjwQ8BRNFHEVIBfcGJEZtBpVG5cbqhv6HHgcziFgJd8ppStQLYMwfDGwMgk1kjboOlI8LT0PPeJAoEMxSshMYE1GT31RYFb6V-JYr1pSYSFi7GMXbEZuqnJsdKB07XTxdct313fleA1673y7fpp_K4BWgTqCm4PMhO-I7Y1-m12iAKOKpBmomqluqZWsr6-ntfK2LLc-vJ--p8AawL_BB8GCxPbGrsv1zZjRNtN-1FLXftfL2L3awdy94XPh7-Is5cXnD-pi7SDuDu5673ryWvKX8wb1Rvaj-hj7qvxL_gr-VA== build at current level + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecDAAUtBiAGOQaiCTMM9w3NDjwQ8BRNFHEVIBfcGJEZtBpVG5cbqhv6HHgcziFgJd8ppStQLYMwfDGwMgk1kjboOlI8LT0PPeJAoEMxSshMYE1GT31RYFb6V-JYr1pSYSFi7GMXbEZuqnJsdKB07XTxdct313fleA1673y7fpp_K4BWgTqCm4PMhO-I7Y1-m12iAKOKpBmomqluqZWsr6-ntfK2LLc-vJ--p8AawL_BB8GCxPbGrsv1zZjRNtN-1FLXftfL2L3awdy94XPh7-Is5cXnD-pi7SDuDu5673ryWvKX8wb1Rvaj-hj7qvxL_gr-VA== probs also worth mentioning this is hardcore. any tips? Tip 1: plan max 100 points to start out with, or maybe less. if your build isn't solid at 100 points you are in trouble and by the time you have 100 points you'll have a pretty good feel for what your build needs next. Tip 2: 5% life nodes are *money* in hardcore. Take every one you touch imo. you are also going LONG distances to get block nodes and then forgoing ones that are conveniently nearby liek the scion start ones and some others | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On July 14 2015 06:34 Meavis wrote: been tinkering with my shitty spectral thrown and don't die scion build again, this is what I got so far. + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecDAAUtBiAGOQaiCTMM9w3NDjwQ8BRNFHEVIBfcGJEZtBpVG5cbqhv6HHgcziFgJd8ppStQLYMwfDGwMgk1kjboOlI8LT0PPeJAoEMxSshMYE1GT31RYFb6V-JYr1pSYSFi7GMXbEZuqnJsdKB07XTxdct313fleA1673y7fpp_K4BWgTqCm4PMhO-I7Y1-m12iAKOKpBmomqluqZWsr6-ntfK2LLc-vJ--p8AawL_BB8GCxPbGrsv1zZjRNtN-1FLXftfL2L3awdy94XPh7-Is5cXnD-pi7SDuDu5673ryWvKX8wb1Rvaj-hj7qvxL_gr-VA== build at current level + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecDAAUtBiAGOQaiCTMM9w3NDjwQ8BRNFHEVIBfcGJEZtBpVG5cbqhv6HHgcziFgJd8ppStQLYMwfDGwMgk1kjboOlI8LT0PPeJAoEMxSshMYE1GT31RYFb6V-JYr1pSYSFi7GMXbEZuqnJsdKB07XTxdct313fleA1673y7fpp_K4BWgTqCm4PMhO-I7Y1-m12iAKOKpBmomqluqZWsr6-ntfK2LLc-vJ--p8AawL_BB8GCxPbGrsv1zZjRNtN-1FLXftfL2L3awdy94XPh7-Is5cXnD-pi7SDuDu5673ryWvKX8wb1Rvaj-hj7qvxL_gr-VA== probs also worth mentioning this is hardcore. any tips? Going to Templar and Ranger areas isn't a good idea. There are plenty of good nodes you can pick up in one of the areas if you ditch the other one that will benefit you greatly (I like templar area more, but I haven't mathed out which would be better). You took Iron Reflexes and didn't pick up Unwavering stance. Trading your 5% chance to evade for stun immunity is pretty good. Also get the rest of the nodes in the Life Wheel like sno said. You should also plan several more INT nodes into your build unless you're using absolutely zero int gems. You can expect to get a little int from gear, but not enough to turn 30int into 150. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
and if you aren't going max block then any points into block almost at all are pretty wasted for example, this build is 38% additional block with shields (counting jewel sockets as +1% since you can roll that on jewels). Add that to the highest a shield can roll to my knowledge (32), plus tempest shield (3) and you get... 73% aka sub-max-block. Although high enough that it's worth doing. And thats 107 points and not terribly damaging, for specifically sword + spectral throw also mana is kinda a concern | ||
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HolydaKing
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Ler
Germany543 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:45 Ota Solgryn wrote: awakening strongest melee build? Cyclone is strongest until you get super geared, then a crit sweep build trumps it in terms of clear speed. It takes a long time to get to that point though. | ||
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:45 Ota Solgryn wrote: awakening strongest melee build? I'm playing Cyclone for Single Target right now and Ice Crash for clearing, works out pretty good. This is my current build (Warbands): + Show Spoiler + https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAAecEswUtB3UJlgthDjwS4RNMFCAUTRRxF-EYkRo4GlUb-iFVJd8m-CcvLdIwdzboOQ46UjwFPC1AoEZpRrdHfk4yUEdZ81n-XhNfOV8_YSFkUmVNZadoZWjycql07Xaseu97dHzZggeDX4TZhO-FUocph2qK8JBVkGyRzpd5my2fPqIAouqkGaknqZSsqq2NrlCvbLCrtiy77byfvTa-p8BmwKbBo8SCxPbGrs9-02_ZYdl82sHcPeJh5FHqGOsJ7w7vfPAf8kHz3fcy-Ov8Sw== 5L: Ice Crash + WED + Melee Phys + FA + BM 4L: Cyclone + BM + Melee Phys + Added Fire 4L: Leap Slam + BM + Fortify + Endurance Charge on Melee Stun 4L: CWDT + Enfeeble + Molten Shell + Blood Rage (I take Blood Rage out of it for harder maps) on top of it im running Hatred + Herald of Ash + Arctic Armour, swapping Hatred for Determination for really hard hitting maps | ||
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sertas
Sweden889 Posts
On July 14 2015 05:52 HolydaKing wrote: HC or SC? I quite like 2h sweep builds, axe/sword/staff crit if SC or mace/axe RT on HC. If you need a build there's probably some on the forums. Though most people play Ice Crash or Cyclone instead. I think Sweep has the highest clear speed though if you are able to one shot things (requires good weapon tho) and have increased aoe gem / nodes. Cyclone is pretty fun though. Ice Crash IMO is the least fun because you either need to hit the enemy or use Shift. Sweep is awesome cuz you can just right click and it attacks the whole screen (with 50+% inc aoe at least). im really interested in sweep for my next char, do you think using a cyclone build taking 2h non specific weapon nodes and just normal hp from there or is there any particular path for sweep? And what should you link sweep with? | ||
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