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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 15:44:55
August 20 2014 15:29 GMT
#16201
On August 20 2014 17:56 zergnewb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 15:53 rebuffering wrote:
So do we know what an ideal %life incresed is ideal to get to a normal amount of HP now? I made a VS sword/board build, with about 120% increased life, its just feels so low, not sure if its viable for a HC league.

I believe its like 150-180% gives the same life as 200-230% used to so aiming for at least 150% should be good.

Yeah someone said 160% is about 220% of the old tree, which is what my build will want. I'll play crit EK shadow, won't play during the first ~16 hours though due to the bad release date.

My build: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_Ax4PqyaVH0FTNWHiBiObtVVLtUjDOow28-rKSioLb55RTHBSnKSDCaxHidOHE31bcNV3BypNXfI_JxUgDkhKyCLiLOkRlm6qR-LdDX_GBx618tCBW6_8xaKjlS6pbjWSpDlOKmegwfMPxPDVKjj-j9i9KaWHdpUgO3yP-klRTeNKfWsXLR-4yuv1ple86kyzZJ3DCTGewFQEB66z8h25kwj0akPr5IPbQZZfKlXGBULQ9TpYLJxVrkSrj6aCEN-w8bNLV8Dj

Might end up needing to pick more mana nodes though, quite likely actually. If I don't wanna use Mana leech or BM gem. While leveling using pots will work anyway imo.


120% is probably acceptable for a ranged char, but not for a melee char.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
August 20 2014 15:52 GMT
#16202
On August 21 2014 00:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 17:56 zergnewb wrote:
On August 20 2014 15:53 rebuffering wrote:
So do we know what an ideal %life incresed is ideal to get to a normal amount of HP now? I made a VS sword/board build, with about 120% increased life, its just feels so low, not sure if its viable for a HC league.

I believe its like 150-180% gives the same life as 200-230% used to so aiming for at least 150% should be good.

Yeah someone said 160% is about 220% of the old tree, which is what my build will want. I'll play crit EK shadow, won't play during the first ~16 hours though due to the bad release date.

My build: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_Ax4PqyaVH0FTNWHiBiObtVVLtUjDOow28-rKSioLb55RTHBSnKSDCaxHidOHE31bcNV3BypNXfI_JxUgDkhKyCLiLOkRlm6qR-LdDX_GBx618tCBW6_8xaKjlS6pbjWSpDlOKmegwfMPxPDVKjj-j9i9KaWHdpUgO3yP-klRTeNKfWsXLR-4yuv1ple86kyzZJ3DCTGewFQEB66z8h25kwj0akPr5IPbQZZfKlXGBULQ9TpYLJxVrkSrj6aCEN-w8bNLV8Dj

Might end up needing to pick more mana nodes though, quite likely actually. If I don't wanna use Mana leech or BM gem. While leveling using pots will work anyway imo.


120% is probably acceptable for a ranged char, but not for a melee char.


I don't even think its fine for a ranged character, especially because he wants to play HC.

150%+ and good defenses are really needed on HC imho
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 15:59:33
August 20 2014 15:56 GMT
#16203
Assuming 80 life on: gloves boots chest hat ammy ringx2 belt plus level 80 char plus oak HP plus 200 str you are talking around 1800 base HP.

at 150% extra thats 4500 hp (obviously there's gonna be some amount of fluctuation here)

Even on a ranged char I'd be looking for a very strong mitigation mechanic (dodge + evasion, block, absurd armor, whatever) to go with that. In hardcore. I'd play that in softcore up to 74ish maps without concern.

God help you if you run mings or carnage heart though o.o

Edit: that said, 700hp instant flasks with 3 charges plus whatever hp flask nodes you may get does make 4500hp tankier than it used to be outside of say uber atziri or w/e
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zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
August 20 2014 17:13 GMT
#16204
Awe yeah just 6linked my lioneyes, first time ever.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 17:37:48
August 20 2014 17:36 GMT
#16205
Grats, thats awesome. I managed to 6 link twice in thousands of hours played. Both times were recent. First was while I was bored after Ambush ended, where I went to play some Standard and then I decided to try to 5 link something. Got 6L before that. Was really surprised but not really that happy 'cause I don't play Standard unless there's nothing else. The second time was in the recent 1 month SC league.... that time I was more happy, but still sucked a bit because it was in the last week iirc (wasted like 300 fusings while trying to 5L before).
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:47:10
August 20 2014 18:40 GMT
#16206
out of curiosity, what base items can you corrupt +1 arrows on? (and/or craft with the new crafters heh)

If it's just bows and quivers (which would make sense) then I'm probably sad since the implicit on both seems kinda too good to pass up. Although I guess if I use lioneyes at first there's no implicit so yay. Although I suppose getting a +1 arrows lioneyes may not be trivial
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incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:50:54
August 20 2014 18:50 GMT
#16207
On August 21 2014 03:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
out of curiosity, what base items can you corrupt +1 arrows on? (and/or craft with the new crafters heh)

If it's just bows and quivers (which would make sense) then I'm probably sad since the implicit on both seems kinda too good to pass up. Although I guess if I use lioneyes at first there's no implicit so yay. Although I suppose getting a +1 arrows lioneyes may not be trivial


Just bows and arrows. It's all in the wiki (for vaal orbs anyway).
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
August 20 2014 18:51 GMT
#16208
Oh, so the patch would be live today.. I'm still too busy preparing to leave tomorrow.. T_T At least I have a lot of time next week.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2014 20:26 GMT
#16209
New tree is up on the main site yay
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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 20 2014 20:30 GMT
#16210
So whose hideout will be the official TL chill pad for the various leagues? Patch notes say up to 32 players from friends list and guild can be invited into a hideout.
It would be convenient if whoever was going to host would put in fairly generic masters so everyone can benefit, assuming you can use your friends' masters in their hideouts. Vorici and Zana would be the obvious choices, then Haku, then whoever.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Hoosegow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
August 20 2014 20:33 GMT
#16211
Patch downloaded. I don't know what to do with my life for the next ninety minutes.

Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
August 20 2014 21:01 GMT
#16212
http://i.imgur.com/AZKtaUa.png

excepted more in line :o
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
August 20 2014 21:02 GMT
#16213
On August 21 2014 00:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
Assuming 80 life on: gloves boots chest hat ammy ringx2 belt plus level 80 char plus oak HP plus 200 str you are talking around 1800 base HP.

at 150% extra thats 4500 hp (obviously there's gonna be some amount of fluctuation here)

Even on a ranged char I'd be looking for a very strong mitigation mechanic (dodge + evasion, block, absurd armor, whatever) to go with that. In hardcore. I'd play that in softcore up to 74ish maps without concern.

God help you if you run mings or carnage heart though o.o

Edit: that said, 700hp instant flasks with 3 charges plus whatever hp flask nodes you may get does make 4500hp tankier than it used to be outside of say uber atziri or w/e


Come on, it's not that bad. My main did lvl 78 maps no problem with less than 4k life. Had some armor (20k I think with granite+jade, so far from absurd), AA and MoM, so there's that...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:06:46
August 20 2014 21:06 GMT
#16214
MoM = 42% more life so yeah.
The MoM chest = 66% more life.
AA is variable but is also one of the "very strong mitigation mechanics" that I was referring to.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:16:52
August 20 2014 21:14 GMT
#16215
Never played CI before. How much is enough increased maximum energy shield / total energy shield around lvl 60-70?
☺
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 20 2014 21:18 GMT
#16216
I'm chilling on the TL TS in the PoE section if someone wants to hop in. Also still got lots of spots for a Beyond group, if you're used to moving fast for levelling you're welcome.

After the Invasion disaster I'm expecting 90% to die on the way to merciless anyway but some super nerd buddies to push hard would be welcome. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:22:48
August 20 2014 21:18 GMT
#16217
On August 21 2014 06:14 Release wrote:
Never played CI before. How much is enough increased maximum energy shield / total energy shield around lvl 60-70?
It partially depends on if you will be able to use a shield etc.

Also keep in mind int gives you ES% and the 15% node after CI is a "more" modifier rather than "increased".

But i've never been CI before so iunno either. Gonna kinda play it by ear. Goal is prolly around 6K es for me. More once I can save for a GG chest.
On August 21 2014 06:18 r.Evo wrote:
I'm chilling on the TL TS in the PoE section if someone wants to hop in. Also still got lots of spots for a Beyond group, if you're used to moving fast for levelling you're welcome.

After the Invasion disaster I'm expecting 90% to die on the way to merciless anyway but some super nerd buddies to push hard would be welcome. =P

Depending on who else I know ends up playing (or more relevantly NOT playing) I may try to join you although I was never the fastest leveller (I do try). I had been thinking about starting softcore but it shouldn't matter too much. Looking to build a cookie-cutter CI bow crit build I think, starting shadow.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
August 20 2014 21:22 GMT
#16218
On August 21 2014 06:14 Release wrote:
Never played CI before. How much is enough increased maximum energy shield / total energy shield around lvl 60-70?

Yep anything under 6k is somewhat unplayable, since you don't have any other type of mitigation.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
August 20 2014 21:26 GMT
#16219
Btw last minutes ES nerf guys. Perfect COE went from 300 to 270. Perfect Vaal Regalia went from 1k to 900. The AR/ES and EV/ES nodes went from 6 to 5. Arcane Focus and Unnatural Calm clusters nerfed.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2014 21:28 GMT
#16220
On August 21 2014 06:26 vndestiny wrote:
Btw last minutes ES nerf guys. Perfect COE went from 300 to 270. Perfect Vaal Regalia went from 1k to 900. The AR/ES and EV/ES nodes went from 6 to 5. Arcane Focus and Unnatural Calm clusters nerfed.

WHAAAAT?
FUUUUUUUUCK
maybe i'm going life based huh
good thing starting shadow can probalby manage either
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