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LordErebus
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany157 Posts
March 11 2014 17:11 GMT
#14201
On March 11 2014 10:01 Leeoku wrote:
Havent played since domination. STarting from scratch was wondering whats a good trap build? I've read around about non crit, crit and elemental equilibrium. If i recall traps only scale off elemental damage and not spell dmg right?

Thinking bear+fire trap. How come some people dont run lightning (is it cause of the lower crit chance?). And opinion on shadow vs scion



It depends on the Trap if it is enhanced by spelldamage passives, just look at the top of the gem if it reads: 'Spell' then it will be affected by spelldamage. ( e.g. Firetrap, Lightning Trap) Some traps like beartrap are not spells.

There are also a lot of Trap damage nodes in the skilltree. Elemental damage also doesnt affect beartrap directly but it obviously does for Firetrap.

I personally like lightning trap with multi trap / chain or fork and elemental equilibrium or lightning penetration for spreading insane shockstacks on whole groups (starting as shadow + static blows).

I would not recommend scion as start because all her close passive nodes are nerfed really hard. Shadow is pretty good and i discovered witch as an awesome non crit trap build start with the buff to her elemental passives.

If you have questions on certain skilltrees just send me a PM i have 3 ~70-80 trappers in Hardcore.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 17:43:35
March 11 2014 17:35 GMT
#14202
On March 12 2014 01:46 oneofthem wrote:
so the taming rings won't drop or be chanced in the new leagues correct?


Should not be able to be dropped, but you can still craft it. You're not supposed to be able to chance craftable uniques.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 11 2014 18:02 GMT
#14203
It's starting to feel like Arctic Armour is mandatory for a witch. I have 5k combined hp/es and I am still in constant danger of being either 1-shot by a bunch of frogs leaping on top of me, or 2-3-shot by a horde of skeletons / chimeras. By now I have lost perhaps 200% experience of a level (currently 85). That's with me never having entered a 74+ map once. I have 7% armour, should I be aiming for about 25-30%? How do witches survive physical damage (elemental is not a problem, even chaos at 0% resistance is literally ignorable)?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 11 2014 18:07 GMT
#14204
CwDT + immortal call.
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LordErebus
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany157 Posts
March 11 2014 18:08 GMT
#14205
On March 12 2014 03:02 Hier wrote:
It's starting to feel like Arctic Armour is mandatory for a witch. I have 5k combined hp/es and I am still in constant danger of being either 1-shot by a bunch of frogs leaping on top of me, or 2-3-shot by a horde of skeletons / chimeras. By now I have lost perhaps 200% experience of a level (currently 85). That's with me never having entered a 74+ map once. I have 7% armour, should I be aiming for about 25-30%? How do witches survive physical damage (elemental is not a problem, even chaos at 0% resistance is literally ignorable)?



Are you using Granite flasks? If not they are awesome with the %armor mod to tank those leap bursts more.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 11 2014 18:08 GMT
#14206
On March 12 2014 03:02 Hier wrote:
It's starting to feel like Arctic Armour is mandatory for a witch. I have 5k combined hp/es and I am still in constant danger of being either 1-shot by a bunch of frogs leaping on top of me, or 2-3-shot by a horde of skeletons / chimeras. By now I have lost perhaps 200% experience of a level (currently 85). That's with me never having entered a 74+ map once. I have 7% armour, should I be aiming for about 25-30%? How do witches survive physical damage (elemental is not a problem, even chaos at 0% resistance is literally ignorable)?


Are you using endurance charges? Easy 12% physical damage reduction.

You should also value your armor in terms of the flat number. The displayed percentage on the character sheet is not useful in practice.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 18:10:48
March 11 2014 18:09 GMT
#14207
Well I think we just summed up the 3 reasonable ways of properly mitigating burst phys dmg.

Arctic armor is REALLY GOOD but also REALLY HARD to run high levels of due to mana cost and it doesn't properly mitigate the really high dmg hits like from those leapers which is a huge deal.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 11 2014 18:16 GMT
#14208
On March 12 2014 02:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 01:46 oneofthem wrote:
so the taming rings won't drop or be chanced in the new leagues correct?


Should not be able to be dropped, but you can still craft it. You're not supposed to be able to chance craftable uniques.

yea by taming rings i meant the component rings making up the taming
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 18:19:56
March 11 2014 18:19 GMT
#14209
If anyone drops either of the new unique quivers or the Voideye ring i'm interested in buying them
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 11 2014 18:30 GMT
#14210
holy shit this new unique vaal gauntlet is a godsend for all ci crit dudes. leech applies instantly on crit
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 11 2014 18:35 GMT
#14211
Thanks for the responses.

I don't really see any reliable method of gaining endurance charges; I'm running a necro, rendering Warlord's Mark useless.

CwDT (lvl 1) + Immortal Call (lvl 1) + Increased Duration + maybe Faster Casting - sounds interesting, I'll give it a try.

I guess I have neglected Granite Flasks. The problem is most of the physical damage is completely unexpected, so it's hard to know when to use one. I'll give them a try.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 18:38:01
March 11 2014 18:36 GMT
#14212
Ummm, faster casting? that literally doesn't do anything in that link. Put in enduring cry to make the IC last longer. Assuming you are running solo, the EC does nothing except generate charges for u.

Could try icewall in there too if you wanted, probably of questionable value though.

E: oh ur a summoner. EC is questionable then.
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 11 2014 18:36 GMT
#14213
Cant you use enduring cry for endurance charges?
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 18:44:34
March 11 2014 18:44 GMT
#14214
Well Immortal Call has a 0.85s casting time... which seems rather slow. Faster Casting isn't the highest priority, true.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 18:46:05
March 11 2014 18:45 GMT
#14215
CwDT casts instantly
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
March 11 2014 18:46 GMT
#14216
I've noticed that whenever I try to come up with a build, most skills just look boring to me.. =/

Cast on Crit Storm Call is like the only thing that seems fun to me. Which hopefully I can make it so I don't suicide to reflect. Shouldn't be hard to set up right.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 11 2014 18:47 GMT
#14217
On March 12 2014 03:46 Tennet wrote:
I've noticed that whenever I try to come up with a build, most skills just look boring to me.. =/

Cast on Crit Storm Call is like the only thing that seems fun to me. Which hopefully I can make it so I don't suicide to reflect. Shouldn't be hard to set up right.

I've been having this a lot lately. I've come to where I have a certain expectation of dps and clear speed that I dont think is possible with a lot of skills.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 11 2014 18:51 GMT
#14218
On March 12 2014 03:35 Hier wrote:
Thanks for the responses.

I don't really see any reliable method of gaining endurance charges; I'm running a necro, rendering Warlord's Mark useless.

CwDT (lvl 1) + Immortal Call (lvl 1) + Increased Duration + maybe Faster Casting - sounds interesting, I'll give it a try.

I guess I have neglected Granite Flasks. The problem is most of the physical damage is completely unexpected, so it's hard to know when to use one. I'll give them a try.


If you aren't using granites already then that is your best option. Learning when you need to use them just takes practice.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
March 11 2014 18:54 GMT
#14219
Bow skills are all boring, nothing all that new or interesting on that front since CB.. Melee usually is fun but I don't want to play melee in Invasion right now. Power Siphon still beckons me but I'm always told I need gear (which I know to be solid I do need solid gear). Though Nugi is starting to show that it is possible without much.

I guess I should start trying things rather than just discrediting them.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 19:00:44
March 11 2014 18:59 GMT
#14220
My current issue with builds is that it takes about infinite points to get a reasonable life total with IR and EA, and US if i'm there. CI builds all look boring cuz you have to be in the awful top half of the tree where you are now punished by the crit nerf or else just casting bad spells hoping that your clear speed might one day approach that of somebody with half your gear and 10 less levels using a weapon. Meanwhile you have to either wear awful uniques or get stunned and frozen every other second, you have no simple mana fix so there go another swathe of points, and you only have to spend thousands of chromatics on gear to actually get useful colours. PS u have minimal armor/evasion too and despite the leech nerf u can't use LGoH so sux to be u.

(I'm referring to endgame btw. I know searing bond is busted levelling but idgaf about levelling I don't enjoy it regardless its also not like you can really level as CI)
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