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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
March 07 2014 03:12 GMT
#14101
So I just got oneshot at 2700 hp in merci sarn by the big skeleton boss when he was not even on my screen. Think I'll stop playing this league now

wtb race season!
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
March 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#14102
Since when did searing bond get so good?
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
March 07 2014 03:24 GMT
#14103
On March 07 2014 12:12 ZoRoXo wrote:
So I just got oneshot at 2700 hp in merci sarn by the big skeleton boss when he was not even on my screen. Think I'll stop playing this league now

wtb race season!

so many rips to this boss because of desync D:

It should be a warning to everyone: if you see him -> logout
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 07 2014 03:38 GMT
#14104
On March 07 2014 12:12 ZoRoXo wrote:
So I just got oneshot at 2700 hp in merci sarn by the big skeleton boss when he was not even on my screen. Think I'll stop playing this league now

wtb race season!


Nugi Evo and you all died to the same mob in the same zone to a desync...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 07 2014 04:07 GMT
#14105
Whats the skele boss you're talking about?
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 04:28:21
March 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#14106
On March 07 2014 12:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 12:12 ZoRoXo wrote:
So I just got oneshot at 2700 hp in merci sarn by the big skeleton boss when he was not even on my screen. Think I'll stop playing this league now

wtb race season!


Nugi Evo and you all died to the same mob in the same zone to a desync...

haha I know how it sounds, but I swear man! :D

But I'm almost curious if he has like a ground slam or something, because I saw couple big white skeletons. Then we killed a couple ez since everyone was like searing bond fireblast/trapish. Then as soon as I saw the boss I moved a bit back, started offscreening flameblast, threw 1 trap to fire it up then I just straight up died. Like oneshot not even seeing hp move from max die.

The strange part was that someone was in front of me, and somehow survived. So I'm guessing he at least has some form of splash. The guy that barely lived had like 3,3k or something iirc

On March 07 2014 13:07 Varanice wrote:
Whats the skele boss you're talking about?

Big slow walking skeleton that spawns with other white big skeletons. Think his name maybe starts with oro or something. It's not the Chatters lookalike with the bringer of bones, this guy has nothing special outside of hitting insanely hard.
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 04:33:00
March 07 2014 04:30 GMT
#14107
On March 07 2014 13:26 ZoRoXo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 12:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 07 2014 12:12 ZoRoXo wrote:
So I just got oneshot at 2700 hp in merci sarn by the big skeleton boss when he was not even on my screen. Think I'll stop playing this league now

wtb race season!


Nugi Evo and you all died to the same mob in the same zone to a desync...

haha I know how it sounds, but I swear man! :D

But I'm almost curious if he has like a ground slam or something, because I saw couple big white skeletons. Then we killed a couple ez since everyone was like searing bond fireblast/trapish. Then as soon as I saw the boss I moved a bit back, started offscreening flameblast, threw 1 trap to fire it up then I just straight up died. Like oneshot not even seeing hp move from max die.

The strange part was that someone was in front of me, and somehow survived. So I'm guessing he at least has some form of splash. The guy that barely lived had like 3,3k or something iirc

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 13:07 Varanice wrote:
Whats the skele boss you're talking about?

Big slow walking skeleton that spawns with other white big skeletons. Think his name maybe starts with oro or something. It's not the Chatters lookalike with the bringer of bones, this guy has nothing special outside of hitting insanely hard.

Is it the skeletal bear or the really big skeletons?
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
March 07 2014 04:33 GMT
#14108
On March 07 2014 13:30 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 13:26 ZoRoXo wrote:
On March 07 2014 12:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 07 2014 12:12 ZoRoXo wrote:
So I just got oneshot at 2700 hp in merci sarn by the big skeleton boss when he was not even on my screen. Think I'll stop playing this league now

wtb race season!


Nugi Evo and you all died to the same mob in the same zone to a desync...

haha I know how it sounds, but I swear man! :D

But I'm almost curious if he has like a ground slam or something, because I saw couple big white skeletons. Then we killed a couple ez since everyone was like searing bond fireblast/trapish. Then as soon as I saw the boss I moved a bit back, started offscreening flameblast, threw 1 trap to fire it up then I just straight up died. Like oneshot not even seeing hp move from max die.

The strange part was that someone was in front of me, and somehow survived. So I'm guessing he at least has some form of splash. The guy that barely lived had like 3,3k or something iirc

On March 07 2014 13:07 Varanice wrote:
Whats the skele boss you're talking about?

Big slow walking skeleton that spawns with other white big skeletons. Think his name maybe starts with oro or something. It's not the Chatters lookalike with the bringer of bones, this guy has nothing special outside of hitting insanely hard.

Is it the skeletal bear?


no, the skeletal bear has a cannot die aura iirc. Just a regular big white skeleton
sprættemætute
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 05:26:45
March 07 2014 05:13 GMT
#14109
Giant skeleton with bringer of bones. You can study Nugiyen dying since he was streaming his misfortune.

On March 07 2014 12:22 Tennet wrote:
Since when did searing bond get so good?


Ele damage buffs and ST nerfs. Highly overrated since it makes partying annoying.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 05:37:01
March 07 2014 05:35 GMT
#14110
On March 07 2014 14:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Giant skeleton with bringer of bones. You can study Nugiyen dying since he was streaming his misfortune.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 12:22 Tennet wrote:
Since when did searing bond get so good?


Ele damage buffs and ST nerfs. Highly overrated since it makes partying annoying.

Is he actually that hard if you dont desync though?

I've had about three close calls so far. Flicker Spider in normal before we had any dps/res/armor/hp really. And two close calls in Cruel. But the scariest I was in Cruel Sins 1. Me and a friend were killing a blue mob pack by the stairs and a big devourer pack + boss pop out, so I start running, I get to the intersection room (Easily 2-3 screens away from the stairs in that room.) and I take 1250 damage (I had 1300-1400 hp at the time.) in an empty room to what looks like to me, absolutely nothing, so I just log because I have no clue where I really am. My friend said I was behind the stairs, back in the room, and thought I had died. lol

So far the actual act bosses are far easier than the unique mobs.

On March 07 2014 14:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Giant skeleton with bringer of bones. You can study Nugiyen dying since he was streaming his misfortune.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 12:22 Tennet wrote:
Since when did searing bond get so good?


Ele damage buffs and ST nerfs. Highly overrated since it makes partying annoying.


Why do you not like partying with Searing Bond? Imo I like partying with at least one person using SB because it pulls all the aggro to the totems.
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 05:38:06
March 07 2014 05:36 GMT
#14111
On March 07 2014 14:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Giant skeleton with bringer of bones. You can study Nugiyen dying since he was streaming his misfortune.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 12:22 Tennet wrote:
Since when did searing bond get so good?


Ele damage buffs and ST nerfs. Highly overrated since it makes partying annoying.

Yeah something similar to that. But I'm pretty sure there was no bringer of bones thingy, but then again. The boss was not actually on my screen so I don't even know. We also had mass aoe spells :D

And nugiyen, if you count the es has like 1k effective hp on me and still got oneshot. Pretty dumb tbh. Really curious how they thought that had any kind of balance in it whatsoever. Like what if you want to play melee, almost all new bosses has something oneshotty or shotgun (bringer of Rain is even nerfed as well, which was one of the few items that made melee playable lategame without insane gear). Also a lot of them has powercrit suffix, which makes the maurader tree extremely good since it's the only passive on the skilltree with minus critt damage. So even though they fucked over scion really hard, they did not really balance the skilltree (to be fair, it's much better than before, but RIP scions in racing). Instead they made it so a huge amount of hardcore build are still going to be focused on the lower leftish area with everything else either CI, ignored, or very unpopular/rippy.

ps, gz varanice :^)
sprættemætute
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 05:43:21
March 07 2014 05:41 GMT
#14112
Also im not sure how Chris was thinking the corrupted areas will encourage party play, only 1 loot item will drop from the boss chest irregardless of how many people come along, so if you dont get the drop allocated to you, you're just screwed. (I know most/all of the gems suck, but the main reason for clearing these areas are for the gems + map pieces in the first place.)

Maybe the trick is to do something hyper-meta and rehotkey Vaal Immortal Call to your AftF4/logout macro.

ty zoroxo <3

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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 05:44:32
March 07 2014 05:42 GMT
#14113
If you didn't see the skeletons that is probably what got you killed. They're summoned on the player so they screw up pathing as far as I can tell from the video.

On March 07 2014 14:35 Varanice wrote:
Why do you not like partying with Searing Bond? Imo I like partying with at least one person using SB because it pulls all the aggro to the totems.


One searing bond is great. The problem is when everyone in the party is using searing bond because the mob can only take damage from one flame degen.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 07 2014 05:44 GMT
#14114
On March 07 2014 14:42 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
If you didn't see the skeletons that is probably what got you killed. They're summoned on the player so they screw up pathing as far as I can tell from the video.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 14:35 Varanice wrote:
Why do you not like partying with Searing Bond? Imo I like partying with at least one person using SB because it pulls all the aggro to the totems.


One searing bond is great. The problem is when everyone is the party is using searing bond because the mob can only take damage from one flame degen.

oh okay. I know what you mean then.
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
March 07 2014 05:59 GMT
#14115
So the name of the skeleton is "Ossecati, Boneshaper" and he does apparently spawn skeletons, but only when he feels like it... :D

I don't know how to link exact timestamp to twitch vods, but http://no.twitch.tv/greatonepoe/b/508787238 at 6 hours, 20 minutes. I die at like 45seconds in and if you spam pause you can barely see the name.

The funny thing is he hits greatone decently hard, but not oneshotty. And he or someone else immedeatly /oos, so I can't possibly be that desynched. So he has to splash or something because he hits someone else in the same hit.
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 06:03:24
March 07 2014 06:01 GMT
#14116
Been only soloing, because of how hard invasion is, and how much I need searing bond to kill things quickly. Some of the insane uniques were nerfed, but I expect more are gonna get toned down soon as well.


Like uh.. the blood cyclone guy, the lightning ball caster, and maybe the guy who spams 10frost novas a second on himself while spamming lightning traps, not really sure how exactly a melee is supposed to deal with that.

So many of these bosses, even if you were running blind + purity element for that bosses damage type (not always possible anyways) I think you would probably still get shotgunned and die
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 07 2014 06:33 GMT
#14117
On March 07 2014 14:59 ZoRoXo wrote:
So the name of the skeleton is "Ossecati, Boneshaper" and he does apparently spawn skeletons, but only when he feels like it... :D

I don't know how to link exact timestamp to twitch vods, but http://no.twitch.tv/greatonepoe/b/508787238 at 6 hours, 20 minutes. I die at like 45seconds in and if you spam pause you can barely see the name.

The funny thing is he hits greatone decently hard, but not oneshotty. And he or someone else immedeatly /oos, so I can't possibly be that desynched. So he has to splash or something because he hits someone else in the same hit.

My guess is that boss does some form of AoE. If you listen to just that boss when he hits something he does some kind of "thunder"-sound with his attack. Either that, or he has a rather high change to crit and the guy in that video got lucky as fuck.

That guy is an even bigger issue than e.g. the Bringer of Bones in Nemesis because he does more burst and because Searing Bond plays in a way that you might run past him, just see the skellies he spawns for half a second (because they almost instantly die) but they still obstructed your movement and made you desync.

Pretty pissed that GGG keeps those Summoner things up when it's a known issue. The Desecrate/Summon Zombie/Detonate Dead Unique is no issue whatsoever since he doesn't permasummon his shit.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 07:54:42
March 07 2014 07:33 GMT
#14118
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAuMEswVbB2MHpRJpFE0WbxccGYUaOBpsHwIkPCSqKU8qjSycLR81kjbFNtg26TrYOuE8BTwtPV9DY0bXSOdJG0lRSbJM_03YTeNSU1WuVcZXK1j1Wm1dxmaebRlxTXF5c1N2goFvghCCHoKbgziHZYgbiEKI8YuMj0aPppBVl4WXlZf0ms-boZwtna6dxJ_fogCmV6cIp1ynhK9sr7e00bUEtzG3PsBUwcXB88WKxq7IDM9l0NDYJNsL37Dhc-Nq5CLsGOw47FXtIO9874XwH_JF89360v4K_o8=
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Effective health
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Minion InstabilityMinion Instability
Minions explode when reduced to low life, dealing 33% of their maximum life as fire damage to surrounding enemies
Eldritch BatteryEldritch Battery
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Passive skill tree breakdown
Health
218% increased maximum Life
58% increased maximum Energy Shield
Minions explode when reduced to low life, dealing 33% of their maximum life as fire damage to surrounding enemies
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2% to maximum Cold Resistance
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52% increased Spell Damage
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272 to Intelligence
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20 to maximum Mana
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Something I slapped together, the idea is a tanky fire witch that uses 2 or 3 spells with good burn. Cloak of Defiance, maybe a Searing Touch with as much armor as I can get on the rest of the equips and a good bit of leech, might even play around and go for Vaal Pact. Crown of Eyes probably pretty good, but probably good mana/life leech jewelry would work.

Searing bond (cuz OP)
Spell totem + Raging Spirit + FC + Multistrike? (with minion instability)
Flameblast for funsies

I don't think its super viable, but hopefully efficient enough and fun. Could probably drop the minion instability (dunno if the raging spirit spam will actually be that effective) and pick up some more defense. Considering taking ghost reaver as well. Could probably start Templar for a more tanky version, but then you'd have to take Lord of the Dead which is pretty useless.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 07 2014 08:31 GMT
#14119
Also, holy crap.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/812290/page/49#p7073833
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
March 07 2014 09:37 GMT
#14120
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113GtQTkIilPGmzsOIKbna4ZhfPdGjg62KcIEmkkqqeETdi4k9gkj0YXHDbpkFWMduvuNsXQ0HF542rAGij6eqofAjbYz2VZ82aemK2Cx5rgBAecLe-FVcYqE3FN-ehFnUyzh2WIG8MTms9Bhy0f7FUsp0Njtz5tGaPytzH-CsauwfNY9YjxEMyCHp3ENZL-h9sLtfJ7IG6q-JNKyD8nKk0VICzp3Q1br_zFTioY22egKaV08Yd2hTJKfQ==

What do you think of this? Searing Bond dual Totem Templar with EB/MoM. The Idea is to run high level Arctic Armor, Clarity, Discipline and Grave for tankiness while being able to maintain high SB DPS.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
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