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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 10 2013 21:30 GMT
#7481
On March 11 2013 06:19 Hoban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 05:50 OceanLab wrote:
downloading the game right, hopefully it's as good as you guys make it out to be ! quite excited tbh


It is a huge amount of fun. The first few games will be confusing as heck, then you'll start to see what everything is about. About 100 games in is where a lot of people really start to feel comfortable. Then without realizing you will have thousands of hours played and be in love

I suggest using as many newbie resources as possible. Knowledge is power and it really helps you get a strong fundamental base as soon as you start playing.

For example, http://www.exilepro.com/. Unless you really want to explore all of the possibilities and mechanics of the game yourself through discovery, the builds and guides on this website will give you something that works, and you can learn the game from there.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
March 10 2013 21:39 GMT
#7482
On March 11 2013 06:16 Ryalnos wrote:
Is quality on auras (+% area) worth much of anything at all?

It's worthless.
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
March 10 2013 21:45 GMT
#7483
On March 11 2013 06:39 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:16 Ryalnos wrote:
Is quality on auras (+% area) worth much of anything at all?

It's worthless.


That's what I assumed. Welp, it goes in with my freeze mine quality gems
for a gcp recipe...
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 10 2013 21:59 GMT
#7484
On March 11 2013 06:39 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:16 Ryalnos wrote:
Is quality on auras (+% area) worth much of anything at all?

It's worthless.


aura-based summoners will have a use for it

players in organized groups can also make use of it

still not worth much because of low demand

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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 10 2013 22:08 GMT
#7485
On March 11 2013 03:42 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 15:19 LagLovah wrote:
im using this one right now

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBAnEEBwSzBVsMfQ5IDq0QfxEvEZYUTRR1GYUZ1xo4HRQfAiQ8JKomlSepKaUtHzB8Mok2xTbpOtg8BT1fSTtJUUyzTdhRR1JTVUtVxlfiWm1h4maebRlte3J-dEF313flfll_K3_Ggh6DOIcZh9uIa4uMjHaNv49GkFWXlZman9-iAKKjpn-nCKc0p1ynhKp_qrixs7VItve4k8AawfPGns9l0NDYJNsL3vbjauOE53To1usU62PsOO1B73zwH_DZ8Xb60g==

With some minor differences to get dex nodes, as its a huge pain to get enough to use the rapiers. Would be nice to roll good swords/axes but I never seem to, have a bunch of good rapiers that collect dust sigh

Great, thanks. I did tweak it a bit, and got through act 1 last night. At least early on, the build is so dumb, especially when you get your first aura and Weapon Elemental Damage. My only problem right now is my resists are garbage. Time to start using some currency on resist rings before certain parts of act 2.

Also, what should the Bandit plan be? Help Oak in normal, kill them all in the other difficulties? Or triple kill? I assume help Oak, because health will probably be an issue for this build, and since it's dual wield, Koam's will never be a possibility.



You help oak in normal and merciless, I took the skillpoint in cruel though, the build creator has stated 40-60 is a tough area without great gear, and I agree with that statement, im in act 3 cruel now lvl 47 at 8 hours played, Kill things super fast but defense is a big problem for me, even with capped resists.
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 22:45:47
March 10 2013 22:16 GMT
#7486
Does Kripp's gem rule: '1 gcp per 5% up to 15%, then 1 gcp per 1%' remotely work on SC? Is that even standard on HC or is it some way for him to get more currency when trading with fans ;p.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 23:18:48
March 10 2013 23:12 GMT
#7487
On March 11 2013 07:16 Ryalnos wrote:
Does Kripp's gem rule: '1 gcp per 5% up to 15%, then 1 gcp per 1%' remotely work on SC? Is that even standard on HC or is it some way for him to get more currency when trading with fans ;p.


For a general rule yes, but there are some gems that have extremely good quality (ex: Added Lightning Damage) that sell for double those values at least.

You will very seldom see people buying gems under 10% quality though (since it isn't cost efficient). Typically you should just use all of them to make GCP through the vendor unless it's a gem that has more value (ex: a chain is worth more than it's value to the vendor).
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 01:55:27
March 11 2013 01:54 GMT
#7488
looking for some help trying to price these boots i just made

what you guys think? (this is in hardcore)

are they exalt worthy even tho i dont got that much lewt to throw around?

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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 11 2013 02:13 GMT
#7489
Being exalt worthy has to do with other equipment you have, not the item itself. If you can upgrade something else for cheaper than 10 GCP then it probably isn't worth exalting them yet. As for price, auction them.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
March 11 2013 02:20 GMT
#7490
Ok so I like playing melee characters even though I've heard they are not as good as ranged characters currently, that's fine.

However my 2 handed mace Marauder is getting absolutely stomped in act 3 of merciless.

So I have tried to focus on getting as many HP nodes as possible and life on my gear. My resists are pretty good considering this is my first char (55'ish for lit and ice, 25'ish for fire, -60 unfortunately for chaos).

I have slightly less armor than ideal but I use the determination aura to make up for it. I also have a good amount of life leech and life on hit.

Regardless, everything in act 3 completely shreds me. I can understand chaos damage killing me quick due to my horrible chaos resists, but just regular white mobs with no chaos damage also shred me quickly.

My DPS is good, I 1 shot everything with heavy strike and 3-5 shot everything with ground slam. The problem isn't so much my killing of things but that my HP plummets like a stone and I have to chug pots and constantly kite and can't stand and fight.

So what am I doing wrong? Is it really just a matter of gear at this point?

My build is pretty solid (as far as a 2 handed mace marauder build goes) and very similar to builds I've seen posted.

Here is my current build at level 64:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwB5w_MEtkUIBiRGS4Z6Ro4Gj4b-iECITQhVSXfJ-0q9i3SMfs26DkOOtg7O0E_R35N2E3jUEdQUFHmVElYY1ivWfNfOV8_YMRlTXKpeA17jHy7fNmE2Yx2jM-QVZkrogCkGaZkpzCnhKlurFmsqrQvud29gb6KwBrBBMWKxtjJmMqQ0EfUj9w93ePeweSt51LsOO8O8B_xrPIv9kj3vv6P

I'm just at a loss. I can't do anything solo, I have to join parties just to progress at all and even then I'm somewhat dead weight and still die quick.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 11 2013 02:31 GMT
#7491
Is that including your endurance charges or without? Are you utilizing a granite flask?

Act 3 without being resist capped isn't a good idea quite honestly and having -60 chaos resist is a huge liability. I'd suggest working on your gear. You should always prioritize survival over damage. Being able to one shot things is meaningless if you're dying to white mobs.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
March 11 2013 02:46 GMT
#7492
On March 11 2013 11:20 Zaqwert wrote:
Ok so I like playing melee characters even though I've heard they are not as good as ranged characters currently, that's fine.

However my 2 handed mace Marauder is getting absolutely stomped in act 3 of merciless.

So I have tried to focus on getting as many HP nodes as possible and life on my gear. My resists are pretty good considering this is my first char (55'ish for lit and ice, 25'ish for fire, -60 unfortunately for chaos).

I have slightly less armor than ideal but I use the determination aura to make up for it. I also have a good amount of life leech and life on hit.

Regardless, everything in act 3 completely shreds me. I can understand chaos damage killing me quick due to my horrible chaos resists, but just regular white mobs with no chaos damage also shred me quickly.

My DPS is good, I 1 shot everything with heavy strike and 3-5 shot everything with ground slam. The problem isn't so much my killing of things but that my HP plummets like a stone and I have to chug pots and constantly kite and can't stand and fight.

So what am I doing wrong? Is it really just a matter of gear at this point?

My build is pretty solid (as far as a 2 handed mace marauder build goes) and very similar to builds I've seen posted.

Here is my current build at level 64:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwB5w_MEtkUIBiRGS4Z6Ro4Gj4b-iECITQhVSXfJ-0q9i3SMfs26DkOOtg7O0E_R35N2E3jUEdQUFHmVElYY1ivWfNfOV8_YMRlTXKpeA17jHy7fNmE2Yx2jM-QVZkrogCkGaZkpzCnhKlurFmsqrQvud29gb6KwBrBBMWKxtjJmMqQ0EfUj9w93ePeweSt51LsOO8O8B_xrPIv9kj3vv6P

I'm just at a loss. I can't do anything solo, I have to join parties just to progress at all and even then I'm somewhat dead weight and still die quick.


It doesn't matter if you can kill things in 1 hit if you're going to be dying that much. I understand softcore is a different playstyle but that shouldn't mean you don't consider your defenses at all.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 11 2013 02:52 GMT
#7493
On March 11 2013 11:20 Zaqwert wrote:
Ok so I like playing melee characters even though I've heard they are not as good as ranged characters currently, that's fine.

However my 2 handed mace Marauder is getting absolutely stomped in act 3 of merciless.

So I have tried to focus on getting as many HP nodes as possible and life on my gear. My resists are pretty good considering this is my first char (55'ish for lit and ice, 25'ish for fire, -60 unfortunately for chaos).

I have slightly less armor than ideal but I use the determination aura to make up for it. I also have a good amount of life leech and life on hit.

Regardless, everything in act 3 completely shreds me. I can understand chaos damage killing me quick due to my horrible chaos resists, but just regular white mobs with no chaos damage also shred me quickly.

My DPS is good, I 1 shot everything with heavy strike and 3-5 shot everything with ground slam. The problem isn't so much my killing of things but that my HP plummets like a stone and I have to chug pots and constantly kite and can't stand and fight.

So what am I doing wrong? Is it really just a matter of gear at this point?

My build is pretty solid (as far as a 2 handed mace marauder build goes) and very similar to builds I've seen posted.

Here is my current build at level 64:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwB5w_MEtkUIBiRGS4Z6Ro4Gj4b-iECITQhVSXfJ-0q9i3SMfs26DkOOtg7O0E_R35N2E3jUEdQUFHmVElYY1ivWfNfOV8_YMRlTXKpeA17jHy7fNmE2Yx2jM-QVZkrogCkGaZkpzCnhKlurFmsqrQvud29gb6KwBrBBMWKxtjJmMqQ0EfUj9w93ePeweSt51LsOO8O8B_xrPIv9kj3vv6P

I'm just at a loss. I can't do anything solo, I have to join parties just to progress at all and even then I'm somewhat dead weight and still die quick.


your build summary

http://www.exilepro.com/build-summary?build=AAAAAgEBAdwB5w_MEtkUIBiRGS4Z6Ro4Gj4b-iECITQhVSXfJ-0q9i3SMfs26DkOOtg7O0E_R35N2E3jUEdQUFHmVElYY1ivWfNfOV8_YMRlTXKpeA17jHy7fNmE2Yx2jM-QVZkrogCkGaZkpzCnhKlurFmsqrQvud29gb6KwBrBBMWKxtjJmMqQ0EfUj9w93ePeweSt51LsOO8O8B_xrPIv9kj3vv6P

it probably is a case of not getting enough passive life nodes. high HP regeneration goes a long way to help keep your HP pool up and isn't reliant on hitting mobs like life leech/life gain on hit are.

I assume you're using Warlord's Mark to build up Endurance Charges

what's your damage reduction with Determination up?

in terms of viable melee builds, it looks like Ele Cleave is the best, but it is still much more dangerous to play than a ranged character
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Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
March 11 2013 03:41 GMT
#7494
The stats I gave were base, without endurance charges. Clearly I would be willing to sacrafice DPS for survivaility at this point. I just dont' know how to do that.

I also need better gear but I don't want to spend too much to upgrade before I get to maps because I anticipate that's when I'll start finding some legit good stuff, but then again if I can't even get there....
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 11 2013 04:02 GMT
#7495
On March 11 2013 12:41 Zaqwert wrote:
The stats I gave were base, without endurance charges. Clearly I would be willing to sacrafice DPS for survivaility at this point. I just dont' know how to do that.

I also need better gear but I don't want to spend too much to upgrade before I get to maps because I anticipate that's when I'll start finding some legit good stuff, but then again if I can't even get there....


can farm Docks in a group for a while up to Lvl 70+

just need to make sure to cap Fire resists and not have awful cold resists
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 04:23:59
March 11 2013 04:22 GMT
#7496
On March 11 2013 11:20 Zaqwert wrote:
Ok so I like playing melee characters even though I've heard they are not as good as ranged characters currently, that's fine.

However my 2 handed mace Marauder is getting absolutely stomped in act 3 of merciless.

So I have tried to focus on getting as many HP nodes as possible and life on my gear. My resists are pretty good considering this is my first char (55'ish for lit and ice, 25'ish for fire, -60 unfortunately for chaos).

I have slightly less armor than ideal but I use the determination aura to make up for it. I also have a good amount of life leech and life on hit.

Regardless, everything in act 3 completely shreds me. I can understand chaos damage killing me quick due to my horrible chaos resists, but just regular white mobs with no chaos damage also shred me quickly.

My DPS is good, I 1 shot everything with heavy strike and 3-5 shot everything with ground slam. The problem isn't so much my killing of things but that my HP plummets like a stone and I have to chug pots and constantly kite and can't stand and fight.

So what am I doing wrong? Is it really just a matter of gear at this point?

My build is pretty solid (as far as a 2 handed mace marauder build goes) and very similar to builds I've seen posted.

Here is my current build at level 64:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwB5w_MEtkUIBiRGS4Z6Ro4Gj4b-iECITQhVSXfJ-0q9i3SMfs26DkOOtg7O0E_R35N2E3jUEdQUFHmVElYY1ivWfNfOV8_YMRlTXKpeA17jHy7fNmE2Yx2jM-QVZkrogCkGaZkpzCnhKlurFmsqrQvud29gb6KwBrBBMWKxtjJmMqQ0EfUj9w93ePeweSt51LsOO8O8B_xrPIv9kj3vv6P

I'm just at a loss. I can't do anything solo, I have to join parties just to progress at all and even then I'm somewhat dead weight and still die quick.
Well, to be honest, that build is not optimal. You need more life, and you need to waste less points. You might be able to salvage it with something like this.
Then figure out if you want Blood Magic, or more auras with the blood magic support gem. Eventually grab unwavering stance into IR with all the good stuff along the way.
But even that seems a bit wasteful. Good luck.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 11 2013 04:29 GMT
#7497
On March 11 2013 13:22 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:20 Zaqwert wrote:
Ok so I like playing melee characters even though I've heard they are not as good as ranged characters currently, that's fine.

However my 2 handed mace Marauder is getting absolutely stomped in act 3 of merciless.

So I have tried to focus on getting as many HP nodes as possible and life on my gear. My resists are pretty good considering this is my first char (55'ish for lit and ice, 25'ish for fire, -60 unfortunately for chaos).

I have slightly less armor than ideal but I use the determination aura to make up for it. I also have a good amount of life leech and life on hit.

Regardless, everything in act 3 completely shreds me. I can understand chaos damage killing me quick due to my horrible chaos resists, but just regular white mobs with no chaos damage also shred me quickly.

My DPS is good, I 1 shot everything with heavy strike and 3-5 shot everything with ground slam. The problem isn't so much my killing of things but that my HP plummets like a stone and I have to chug pots and constantly kite and can't stand and fight.

So what am I doing wrong? Is it really just a matter of gear at this point?

My build is pretty solid (as far as a 2 handed mace marauder build goes) and very similar to builds I've seen posted.

Here is my current build at level 64:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwB5w_MEtkUIBiRGS4Z6Ro4Gj4b-iECITQhVSXfJ-0q9i3SMfs26DkOOtg7O0E_R35N2E3jUEdQUFHmVElYY1ivWfNfOV8_YMRlTXKpeA17jHy7fNmE2Yx2jM-QVZkrogCkGaZkpzCnhKlurFmsqrQvud29gb6KwBrBBMWKxtjJmMqQ0EfUj9w93ePeweSt51LsOO8O8B_xrPIv9kj3vv6P

I'm just at a loss. I can't do anything solo, I have to join parties just to progress at all and even then I'm somewhat dead weight and still die quick.
Well, to be honest, that build is not optimal. You need more life, and you need to waste less points. You might be able to salvage it with something like this.
Then figure out if you want Blood Magic, or more auras with the blood magic support gem. Eventually grab unwavering stance into IR with all the good stuff along the way.
But even that seems a bit wasteful. Good luck.

Yeah, that build is a step towards the right direction, still not 100% optimal, but i'm guessing this is getting pretty expensive as far as regrets go for you. Your build wasted about 15 points, while his only wastes like maybe.. 2-3. Generally your DPS comes from your gear, or just passives that happened to be on the way to you picking up more life/other things that give you survivability. Most builds (Read: Every build that I can think of.) don't use their passive tree as a major source of their DPS.
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 11 2013 07:01 GMT
#7498
I just beat merciless on my 2h mace marauder. The only thing that kept me alive was Enduring Cry and as many hp/regen nodes as possible, really. Always keep max stacks of enduring cry up, and for some of the zones (like Barracks) you want to bring resistance rings so you hit the cap. You don't need damage passives etc, you do a lot of damage as is, imo. Oh and I use life leech/life gain on hit for that additional regen.

I'm lvl 64 now and wondering what I should do next. I'd like to gear up so I can do some maps, what is the best way? Should I just run Docks with groups until I level up a bit more and randomly find some usable rares? Or should I farm currency somewhere and buy everything?
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 11 2013 07:13 GMT
#7499
at what DPS point does LA possibly become dangerous when going against an Elemental Reflect pack?
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 11 2013 07:29 GMT
#7500
Probably never, I don't even use life on hit I use the slower to regain lifeleach with 1500dps using GMP faster attacks .. with 80/80/80 resists I don't really lose life unless its like a massive horde of 90 monsters and I do something stupid like use projectile weakness without popping my topaz first.

Obviously you can get alot higher dps than what I have, but if your resists are strong then I wouldnt worry to much about it. I think the main worry on reflect is maps with -max resist or passive reflect
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