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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#7441
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 09 2013 10:03 GMT
#7442
my Arctic Build Marauder build turned out to be ass or I didn't have the resources for the gear to make it effective, so I gave up on it at ~Lvl 45

next thing to try screwing around with is Leap Slam Marauder. I assume it will also turn out bad because of either not enough damage output or not enough life nodes, but it'll probably be funner at least.

build

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAecCcQSzBOQFLQ6tEuEUIBRNGNsZLhmFGjgaVRv6IWAkqiXfJ-0otSmlMgkyiTboNuk62ECgQ5xHfk3YUEdQUFRJVbVXDVfiWGNZ818_YEtgiGEhYVJko2VNZp5uaXKpdO108XXQeu982YM4hNmE74dqjHaMz5BVkGyRzpkrnrmezZ_LogCkGacwp4SplKvFrKq53b2BvqfAD8AaxtjSIdJN1I_ZYeNq51LsOO8O707vfPAf8i_z3fZI9zL46_rS_7A=


build summary

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.exilepro.com/build-summary?build=AAAAAgEBAecCcQSzBOQFLQ6tEuEUIBRNGNsZLhmFGjgaVRv6IWAkqiXfJ-0otSmlMgkyiTboNuk62ECgQ5xHfk3YUEdQUFRJVbVXDVfiWGNZ818_YEtgiGEhYVJko2VNZp5uaXKpdO108XXQeu982YM4hNmE74dqjHaMz5BVkGyRzpkrnrmezZ_LogCkGacwp4SplKvFrKq53b2BvqfAD8AaxtjSIdJN1I_ZYeNq51LsOO8O707vfPAf8i_z3fZI9zL46_rS_7A%253d
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 09 2013 10:13 GMT
#7443
On March 09 2013 18:56 Gary Oak wrote:
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.

This is your problem, you should not be fighting these enemies at all. You only fight those that you cannot avoid, like Brutus or Flaming dog. YOU do not fight dangerous enemies and you don't go into side areas during race (including ones that give you additional skill points).
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 11:38:18
March 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#7444
On March 09 2013 19:03 udgnim wrote:
my Arctic Build Marauder build turned out to be ass or I didn't have the resources for the gear to make it effective, so I gave up on it at ~Lvl 45

next thing to try screwing around with is Leap Slam Marauder. I assume it will also turn out bad because of either not enough damage output or not enough life nodes, but it'll probably be funner at least.

build

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAecCcQSzBOQFLQ6tEuEUIBRNGNsZLhmFGjgaVRv6IWAkqiXfJ-0otSmlMgkyiTboNuk62ECgQ5xHfk3YUEdQUFRJVbVXDVfiWGNZ818_YEtgiGEhYVJko2VNZp5uaXKpdO108XXQeu982YM4hNmE74dqjHaMz5BVkGyRzpkrnrmezZ_LogCkGacwp4SplKvFrKq53b2BvqfAD8AaxtjSIdJN1I_ZYeNq51LsOO8O707vfPAf8i_z3fZI9zL46_rS_7A=


build summary

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.exilepro.com/build-summary?build=AAAAAgEBAecCcQSzBOQFLQ6tEuEUIBRNGNsZLhmFGjgaVRv6IWAkqiXfJ-0otSmlMgkyiTboNuk62ECgQ5xHfk3YUEdQUFRJVbVXDVfiWGNZ818_YEtgiGEhYVJko2VNZp5uaXKpdO108XXQeu982YM4hNmE74dqjHaMz5BVkGyRzpkrnrmezZ_LogCkGacwp4SplKvFrKq53b2BvqfAD8AaxtjSIdJN1I_ZYeNq51LsOO8O707vfPAf8i_z3fZI9zL46_rS_7A%253d


Krip seemed to be doing ok with his leap slam maruader during the week race. Should be ok if its linked with like Added Fire Damage, Increased Melee Damage and something else like Weapon Elemental damage or maybe life leech.
Desmoden
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany45 Posts
March 09 2013 11:32 GMT
#7445
I found a 14% Flicker Strike and 11% Frostbite on hardcore. Does one of you need these?
Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
March 09 2013 12:53 GMT
#7446
On March 09 2013 19:13 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 18:56 Gary Oak wrote:
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.

This is your problem, you should not be fighting these enemies at all. You only fight those that you cannot avoid, like Brutus or Flaming dog. YOU do not fight dangerous enemies and you don't go into side areas during race (including ones that give you additional skill points).

Flaming dog is the last boss you should kill ; )
Please be patient.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 09 2013 13:47 GMT
#7447
Merveil's Daughters are easy, but I basically skip every other unique boss in short races. Sawbones can be worth it if he's isolated and you have good dps. A2 unique bosses are easy, however, but you only kill those in 3h races.

Ideally you should kill Brutus around ~25 mins, Merveil under 45, but it really needs to be closer to 20 and 40 if you want a top spot. Before the duelist buffs, Brutus was usually a lvl 9 kill and Merveil a 13 or 12 with good gear, now it's easily a level 8 and 12 kill. Not sure how it will impact the end XP, but 500k should be pretty easy now.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 09 2013 14:07 GMT
#7448
On March 09 2013 21:53 Chaosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 19:13 -Archangel- wrote:
On March 09 2013 18:56 Gary Oak wrote:
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.

This is your problem, you should not be fighting these enemies at all. You only fight those that you cannot avoid, like Brutus or Flaming dog. YOU do not fight dangerous enemies and you don't go into side areas during race (including ones that give you additional skill points).

Flaming dog is the last boss you should kill ; )

I know but he is one of unskippable ones. He is fast enough to give you trouble and you will only run into a bigger group of leapers if you try to outrun him. Not to mention you cannot outrun him without quicksilver flasks which take luck to find as doing medicine quest is too risky.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#7449
You can easily skip it with leap slam. The problem is hitting level 10, which requires either hitting level 9 in prison or farming early prison's gate. But you can definitely outrun it without movespeed boots. It'll get lost in a slower pack eventually. It's risky, but not nearly as dangerous as engaging it.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#7450
You can outrun him with chest off if you know how to avoid leapers. Just need to make sure to not be wearing a chest, and know how to survive with lower armor. Shouldnt ever engage him because he causes burning on hit.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
March 09 2013 17:31 GMT
#7451
dunno if op still updates the player list but since my last entry didnt get added and some stuff changed ill try again:

chars: Zashah / lucador
build: lvl 70++ frostcrit ci witch (currently ~11k dps on fp) with gmp spear prolif totem & lvl75+ lightning strike shadow running 4-6 auras
other: usually on in eu evening/nighttime. doing maps maps maps!

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
March 09 2013 18:34 GMT
#7452
On March 09 2013 23:07 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 21:53 Chaosu wrote:
On March 09 2013 19:13 -Archangel- wrote:
On March 09 2013 18:56 Gary Oak wrote:
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.

This is your problem, you should not be fighting these enemies at all. You only fight those that you cannot avoid, like Brutus or Flaming dog. YOU do not fight dangerous enemies and you don't go into side areas during race (including ones that give you additional skill points).

Flaming dog is the last boss you should kill ; )

I know but he is one of unskippable ones. He is fast enough to give you trouble and you will only run into a bigger group of leapers if you try to outrun him. Not to mention you cannot outrun him without quicksilver flasks which take luck to find as doing medicine quest is too risky.

No, no and no. He cannot catch you when you keep running (without armor, no bonus movement speed) and he may stuck on another mobs/edge so you lose him anyway. There is no reason to kill mobs in there if you don't have to, so if you have to run with him all the way to graveyard, do it. Running in bigger packs is matter of experience, you just have to micro them (shoudn't be a problem for anyone playing Starcraft). I don't remember killing him ever...
Please be patient.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 09 2013 19:37 GMT
#7453
On March 09 2013 19:13 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 18:56 Gary Oak wrote:
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.

This is your problem, you should not be fighting these enemies at all. You only fight those that you cannot avoid, like Brutus or Flaming dog. YOU do not fight dangerous enemies and you don't go into side areas during race (including ones that give you additional skill points).

Most of my deaths are to getting stunned once by Hailrake, and getting killed by his minions. I try to pull them away, but sometimes, he snipes me. Another death was against Sawbones, I believe. Regardless, I'll try to skip more minibosses in future. The only sidequest I do is Medicine Chest. Oh well, time to practice more and hopefully be less bad. I'm going for a Cleave/Fire Trap Duelist build now for short races.

Another place where I fall short I think is stuff like inventory/vendor micro. I feel I waste too much time with that, in terms of picking stuff up, vendoring stuff, and otherwise.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 09 2013 19:41 GMT
#7454
different build from what you typically see in PoE (at least in HC)

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 21:13:17
March 09 2013 21:07 GMT
#7455
On March 10 2013 04:37 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 19:13 -Archangel- wrote:
On March 09 2013 18:56 Gary Oak wrote:
I seem to be having a terrible mental block when it comes to races; everytime I practice a race, or actually race (1 hour), I keep dying to frozen, but I'm almost done with Cruel on my first ever character. I don't understand why I'm so bad, but there you go.

I'm trying to practice to the point where I can reach act 2 by the ~40 minute mark. Most recently, I was at around 25 minutes and almost at Brutus before I died to the Upper Prison boss, after narrowly escaping death against Chatters. By far my best attempt, but I think I'm still too slow.

This is your problem, you should not be fighting these enemies at all. You only fight those that you cannot avoid, like Brutus or Flaming dog. YOU do not fight dangerous enemies and you don't go into side areas during race (including ones that give you additional skill points).

Most of my deaths are to getting stunned once by Hailrake, and getting killed by his minions. I try to pull them away, but sometimes, he snipes me. Another death was against Sawbones, I believe. Regardless, I'll try to skip more minibosses in future. The only sidequest I do is Medicine Chest. Oh well, time to practice more and hopefully be less bad. I'm going for a Cleave/Fire Trap Duelist build now for short races.

Another place where I fall short I think is stuff like inventory/vendor micro. I feel I waste too much time with that, in terms of picking stuff up, vendoring stuff, and otherwise.
Buy a coral ring right when you get to town, then sell the stuff hillock dropped and buy a 2h sword if you didn't get a usable weapon. You can unstack shards of transmutation to sell for individual scraps of wisdom to get that extra scroll of wisdom.

I'm not sure if doing Medecine Chest is worth it for a Duelist in 1h races. You already get one fire trap from glyphs, and the quicksilver flask doesn't make up for the time wasted. I think if I was to do it, I'd do it from the Ledge or lower passage waypoint instead. Simply warp back to mud flats waypoint, run to hailrake, log out, waypoint back to the Ledge. At least that's the plan in 2-3h races.

It's also a good idea to buy a medium life flask in lower prison if you haven't found one yet, and a level 8 weapon if you go 2h. Then buy a leather belt after Brutus. You should also check for Sapphire rings at level 10-11-12 (possibly 9?). Having 50%+ cold resist will save you a lot of time on Merveil.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 09 2013 21:57 GMT
#7456
Thanks for the pointers. I will definitely keep them in mind. I knew a few of them, but didn't think of doing Hailrake until I hit Ledge. I also may be killing too many mobs. I only try to fight mobs if they're in large clusters that I can Cleave down quickly, but I start doing this right when I hit Terraces.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 10 2013 04:06 GMT
#7457
Level 17, 6th duelist, 20th overall. I had amazing gear (no QS/MS, however), and I could have probably had 1st Duelist with some more Western Forest knowledge (only 60k xp). My problem is still that I get there at level 15, so I'm not quite sure where the others farm that extra level along the way, and I don't clear western fast enough yet.

ps. My 3rd 6th duelist, kinda annoying.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 10 2013 04:26 GMT
#7458
Welp, I died at the 30 minute mark against Brutus. I was using mostly level 2 gear, as stuff just would not drop, and I nearly died against a Necromancer pack, so I had to exit. I had a Medium Life Flask and a Coral Ring. Even with Decoy Totem, I did almost no damage to him, and his Ground Slam did about half my health.

Bleh.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 10 2013 04:30 GMT
#7459
Died to a hasted swarm in shipyard in the race, too bad as well was making sick time and had decent weapons for duelist, oh well.

Playing my ele cleave templar based off nugiyen's in the 1week race, my god so fun. 1100dps cleave at level 34, with lvl 35 weapon that will boost it higher, and thats off only 1 aura(anger) killed piety in under 40 seconds. The gear minus 1 ring and a 4link pair of boots are from the 3 hour party race earlier today where i hit 29 solo in sarn
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 10 2013 04:57 GMT
#7460
On March 10 2013 13:30 LagLovah wrote:
Playing my ele cleave templar based off nugiyen's in the 1week race, my god so fun. 1100dps cleave at level 34, with lvl 35 weapon that will boost it higher, and thats off only 1 aura(anger) killed piety in under 40 seconds. The gear minus 1 ring and a 4link pair of boots are from the 3 hour party race earlier today where i hit 29 solo in sarn

I've been wondering about the specifics of that build, at least in terms of the passive tree.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
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