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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:51:58
February 19 2013 19:50 GMT
#6421
On February 20 2013 04:48 T0F4sT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


I saw a post yesterday, after 5 chances he got a Lioneye's Glare...
makes me wanna cry

I haven't seen any Kaom's Heart might take a while till some one gets one.


I posted one fifty pages back or so here. Was sold for a mirror.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
February 19 2013 20:27 GMT
#6422
Is it just me or do duelists suck?
Texas is to f*cking hot.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 19 2013 20:28 GMT
#6423
If you consider anything, that does not use FP or LA to suck, they do, otherwise it is you.
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 21:11:40
February 19 2013 21:10 GMT
#6424
Kind of old news but it looks like Life on Hit is currently bugged and gives double the normal amount.

Source : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/138853/page/1

This is a recently introduced bug in 0.10.1 that applies life on hit twice if a hit does damage. This has been fixed for an upcoming patch.


(If it was already posted here, my bad, didn't see)
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
February 19 2013 21:34 GMT
#6425
I haven't played this game in forever, I've been playing Torchlight II. Is this game currently better? D3 was such a disappointment.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 19 2013 21:55 GMT
#6426
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 22:37:13
February 19 2013 22:05 GMT
#6427
On February 20 2013 06:55 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.


The physical damage on LA is hugely overrated. LA just converts damage, you get better damage output by just having elemental instead since it gives full returns from all your passives/gear. The typical LA build doesn't involve any crit nodes either so it's just a huge waste. With all your elemental nodes you're better off using a double elemental thicket with weapon elemental damage. The elemental nodes on the tree give more damage than physical and your gear is going to have weapon elemental damage so you're just throwing yourself away there.

Some analysis might need to be done regarding additional links like ALD versus crit damage or chance, but I suspect shock being as imba as it is makes that no contest.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
February 19 2013 22:32 GMT
#6428
Would a cold caster ever use a dagger like this?

80%global crit chance

+2 cold skills
25% crit chance
25% global crit multip


Or are people kind of stuck on wands?
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 19 2013 22:36 GMT
#6429
On February 20 2013 07:32 LagLovah wrote:
Would a cold caster ever use a dagger like this?

80%global crit chance

+2 cold skills
25% crit chance
25% global crit multip


Or are people kind of stuck on wands?


2 cold skills is good, but spell damage/cast speed are the best mods and you're missing both.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 22:41:23
February 19 2013 22:40 GMT
#6430
On February 20 2013 07:32 LagLovah wrote:
Would a cold caster ever use a dagger like this?

80%global crit chance

+2 cold skills
25% crit chance
25% global crit multip


Or are people kind of stuck on wands?


It would be nice if it had additional mods to it, but those are pretty desirable stats for a cold caster, assuming you are not on hardcore and have to be careful about your crit damage reflecting off of certain monsters.

Unless you are using power siphon, the wand is just a stat stick. If you can find some other item that gives you better mods, and you can equip it without crippling your build, I say go for it.

Edit: And what the guy above said. You're missing some key mods there but if you find a non-wand with the stats you need there is no reason you shouldn't use it.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
February 19 2013 22:46 GMT
#6431
When's a good time to get blood magic on a LA bow ranger?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAAdEILg6tFHUVIBmOKaUqTSzpMn41hjWSOrM_J0p9TshW-l-qY6dnoGz2bqpz4XRBguSD24d2kAqQEZC-m42dqqJAplen1KvSrpOv67DSuc3B2MSiznHRqdN-3BXdDd1G7YPvevT494j8S_xO_MX-yA==

I'm somewhere around lev. 48, Have a 4L currently with LA+LMP+Fork+Mana Leech.Tried swapping in a Chain but the mana cost was a little too high. Sitting on ~1250 HP right now with some rarity rings & have a life gain on hit just waiting to sub into the mana leech slot.

PS: I'm softcore, too much focus on HP nodes?

Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 19 2013 22:46 GMT
#6432
On February 20 2013 07:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 06:55 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.


The physical damage on LA is hugely overrated. LA just converts damage, you get better damage output by just having elemental instead since it gives full returns from all your passives/gear. The typical LA build doesn't involve any crit nodes either so it's just a huge waste. With all your elemental nodes you're better off using a double elemental thicket with weapon elemental damage. The elemental nodes on the tree give more damage than physical and your gear is going to have weapon elemental damage so you're just throwing yourself away there.

Some analysis might need to be done regarding additional links like ALD versus crit damage or chance, but I suspect shock being as imba as it is makes that no contest.


I've heard the opposite from some theorycrafting that I've seen from Nugiyen. The converted damage from high physical is huge, and with 400+ str from the build + iron grip, are you so sure that just stacking ele damage from a thicket would be better? It's also possible to grab Heartpierce with the build. Would require roughly level 95, but doable.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 23:08:58
February 19 2013 23:01 GMT
#6433
On February 20 2013 07:46 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 07:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 06:55 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.


The physical damage on LA is hugely overrated. LA just converts damage, you get better damage output by just having elemental instead since it gives full returns from all your passives/gear. The typical LA build doesn't involve any crit nodes either so it's just a huge waste. With all your elemental nodes you're better off using a double elemental thicket with weapon elemental damage. The elemental nodes on the tree give more damage than physical and your gear is going to have weapon elemental damage so you're just throwing yourself away there.

Some analysis might need to be done regarding additional links like ALD versus crit damage or chance, but I suspect shock being as imba as it is makes that no contest.


I've heard the opposite from some theorycrafting that I've seen from Nugiyen. The converted damage from high physical is huge, and with 400+ str from the build + iron grip, are you so sure that just stacking ele damage from a thicket would be better? It's also possible to grab Heartpierce with the build. Would require roughly level 95, but doable.


I didn't theorycraft anything that high level. I have no plans of reaching level 85 let alone 95. With double the str I could see physical working out, but I'm nowhere close to 400 str.

Do you know how much str/increased physical damage he had?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 23:21:07
February 19 2013 23:13 GMT
#6434
On February 20 2013 08:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 07:46 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 07:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 06:55 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.


The physical damage on LA is hugely overrated. LA just converts damage, you get better damage output by just having elemental instead since it gives full returns from all your passives/gear. The typical LA build doesn't involve any crit nodes either so it's just a huge waste. With all your elemental nodes you're better off using a double elemental thicket with weapon elemental damage. The elemental nodes on the tree give more damage than physical and your gear is going to have weapon elemental damage so you're just throwing yourself away there.

Some analysis might need to be done regarding additional links like ALD versus crit damage or chance, but I suspect shock being as imba as it is makes that no contest.


I've heard the opposite from some theorycrafting that I've seen from Nugiyen. The converted damage from high physical is huge, and with 400+ str from the build + iron grip, are you so sure that just stacking ele damage from a thicket would be better? It's also possible to grab Heartpierce with the build. Would require roughly level 95, but doable.


I didn't theorycraft anything that high level. I have no plans of reaching level 85 let alone 95. With double the str I could see physical working out, but I'm nowhere close to 400 str.

Do you know how much str/increased physical damage he had?


I'm at 398 right now. The build has 334 str from nodes, and with a +20 onyx + str from other pieces of gear, you'll end up getting roughly 400.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
February 19 2013 23:14 GMT
#6435
On February 20 2013 07:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 07:32 LagLovah wrote:
Would a cold caster ever use a dagger like this?

80%global crit chance

+2 cold skills
25% crit chance
25% global crit multip


Or are people kind of stuck on wands?


2 cold skills is good, but spell damage/cast speed are the best mods and you're missing both.


Thanks, it has 1 prefix and 3 suffix's right now the other being +int. It's a pretty big gamble to double exalt just to try and get spelldamage anyways, not really worth it I guess.

rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
February 19 2013 23:14 GMT
#6436
On February 20 2013 05:27 TuckFexas wrote:
Is it just me or do duelists suck?
They start sucking around Cruel A3. But they're pretty good in races and will receive some love from the devs in the near future.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 19 2013 23:24 GMT
#6437
On February 20 2013 08:13 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 08:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 07:46 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 07:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 06:55 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:29 T0F4sT wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:18 Qaatar wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:52 Archers_bane wrote:
So...anyone know how much currency you need to be considered "rich" or at least well off? Lol, would be interesting to know how much everyone here has

I have like 6 exalts worth of currency only, a lot of currency in items waiting to be moved, but really lazy to do it


I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.


The physical damage on LA is hugely overrated. LA just converts damage, you get better damage output by just having elemental instead since it gives full returns from all your passives/gear. The typical LA build doesn't involve any crit nodes either so it's just a huge waste. With all your elemental nodes you're better off using a double elemental thicket with weapon elemental damage. The elemental nodes on the tree give more damage than physical and your gear is going to have weapon elemental damage so you're just throwing yourself away there.

Some analysis might need to be done regarding additional links like ALD versus crit damage or chance, but I suspect shock being as imba as it is makes that no contest.


I've heard the opposite from some theorycrafting that I've seen from Nugiyen. The converted damage from high physical is huge, and with 400+ str from the build + iron grip, are you so sure that just stacking ele damage from a thicket would be better? It's also possible to grab Heartpierce with the build. Would require roughly level 95, but doable.


I didn't theorycraft anything that high level. I have no plans of reaching level 85 let alone 95. With double the str I could see physical working out, but I'm nowhere close to 400 str.

Do you know how much str/increased physical damage he had?


I'm at 398 right now. The build has 314 str from nodes, and with a +20 onyx + str from other pieces of gear, you'll end up getting roughly 400.


I was meaning from passives or gear mainly. I threw in 80% from the 400 str. I assume he wouldn't use any uniques that give physical damage, but having Greater Impact and the nodes leading up to it adds quite a bit. If you have a skill build that would be really helpful so I can add everything up because guessing the WED is also an issue.
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Last Edited: 2013-02-19 23:33:29
February 19 2013 23:27 GMT
#6438
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I've seen people on the HC trade forums offer like 25 exalts worth of stuff for Lioneye's Glare. I'm pretty sure there are people who abuse d2jsp who have hundreds of exalts. In default, I'm sure it's even more insane.

Personally, I'm almost level 82 in HC, and I only have about as much as you (5-6 exalts). I'd say a stack of exalts would be considered well off.


Even mirrors aren't trading that high on default. Seen mirrors sold for just 15-20 exalts.



I would say there are more mirrors in the game then, Lioneye's Glare/Kaom's Heart.


Certainly, but a rare is better than a unique in most cases. Certain builds revolve around a unique, but for most players a mirror is more valuable assuming you have something to copy. I've seen quite a few 6L rares that have super rolls for people to copy on the forums already.

Kaom's Heart won't be nearly as rare as it was in CB because maps are higher level now as well. So much easier to get level 68 drops than it was before.


It's not just rarity either. I'd say Lioneye's is arguably the best bow in the game for LA. Not only does it boast extremely high physical, it also saves us two skillpoints (the str node + RT), and most importantly, it in turn allows us to critically strike again. All of those factors makes it arguably a better bow than a thicket/imperial with perfect phys+ele damage rolls.

You can't say the same for Kaom's. I would pay 25 exalts for Lioneye's...and I wouldn't even pay 1 gcp for Kaom's.


The physical damage on LA is hugely overrated. LA just converts damage, you get better damage output by just having elemental instead since it gives full returns from all your passives/gear. The typical LA build doesn't involve any crit nodes either so it's just a huge waste. With all your elemental nodes you're better off using a double elemental thicket with weapon elemental damage. The elemental nodes on the tree give more damage than physical and your gear is going to have weapon elemental damage so you're just throwing yourself away there.

Some analysis might need to be done regarding additional links like ALD versus crit damage or chance, but I suspect shock being as imba as it is makes that no contest.


I've heard the opposite from some theorycrafting that I've seen from Nugiyen. The converted damage from high physical is huge, and with 400+ str from the build + iron grip, are you so sure that just stacking ele damage from a thicket would be better? It's also possible to grab Heartpierce with the build. Would require roughly level 95, but doable.


I didn't theorycraft anything that high level. I have no plans of reaching level 85 let alone 95. With double the str I could see physical working out, but I'm nowhere close to 400 str.

Do you know how much str/increased physical damage he had?


I'm at 398 right now. The build has 314 str from nodes, and with a +20 onyx + str from other pieces of gear, you'll end up getting roughly 400.


I was meaning from passives or gear mainly. I threw in 80% from the 400 str. I assume he wouldn't use any uniques that give physical damage, but having Greater Impact and the nodes leading up to it adds quite a bit. If you have a skill build that would be really helpful so I can add everything up because guessing the WED is also an issue.


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAdEZjvT47YOiQNN-xKI1kk7I7g4a21b6-WPdRvzFveZjp_xOZ6DdDT7Ph3Zbr1FHSn0Y22_ydPFDnDnUIWCeuQ6toJ9AoCmlBS3vTmBLKLV672CIdO1hUp_LMglWBIZgOlI26N-_WK8B53gNpzCpbp7NFCC18k3j0iFQR26qrFlXDTJ-_o_ZYWoeGS6oGCft8i-sqrndcqlZ8-8OfNnAGudSZp6QVVRJ-tKnhF8_HRQ26Ro49kiPRuNq7DiMz9DQV-JQUJuhz2V35TKJWGNnvVXGBLPG2O5v8B-iAA==

It's 334 from passives. I also took Oak's 12% physical, so that's an added bonus.

Edit: this is my build. He didn't take Unwavering + berserking, and took the top route instead. This results in 20 less str actually, but 4 extra skill points that he could take Greater Impact with.

Edit: also, I forgot to uncheck the two nodes for str and RT. This is all assuming that I have Lioneye's, of course.
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February 19 2013 23:47 GMT
#6439
Rarity: Rare
Dire Scalpel
Fiend Dagger
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Dagger
Physical Damage: 19-75
Elemental Damage: 23-48 (augmented), 14-26 (augmented), 7-79 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 7.1%
Attacks per Second: 1.20
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Requirements:
Level: 53
Dex: 58
Int: 123 (unmet)
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60% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
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+12 to Intelligence
Adds 23-48 Fire Damage
Adds 14-26 Cold Damage
Adds 7-79 Lightning Damage
38% increased Mana Regeneration Rate

Are daggers with elemental a thing anyone actually uses? .I sure hope so, pretty decent roll if so, however I really have no idea, I didn't think daggers were that popular for anything besides spell/crit for EK users
.

Sorry for all the item questions, tough to find stuff through searches on their trade forums and whatnot
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
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Last Edited: 2013-02-20 02:59:35
February 20 2013 02:46 GMT
#6440
anyone play the Nugiyen build?

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAdEB5wJxBLMFLQguDq0UIBRNGNsZLhmOGjgaVR0UIWAn7SmlMn4yiTWSNug26TpSOrNAoEOcRmlKfU3jTshQR1BQVElVxlb6Vw1X4lhjWK9Z81uvXz9gS2EhY6dko2aeZ6BnvWoebqp07XTxd-V4DXrvhO-HdozPj0aQCpBVm42boZ65ns2iAKJApzCnhKgYqW6sWayqr-u18rndwBrEosbYz2XQ0NIh037ZYd0N3Ubfv-Nq51LsOO2D7g7ub-8O8i_z3fTp9Pj2SPrS_E78xf6P


I am wondering what level I should get Iron Grip and Static Blows

I'm guessing Iron Grip is last?

I'm currently working my way to Static Blows and will be pick up Fitness and probably Divine Toughness along the way before actually getting Static Blows

this is my current build at Lvl 52. currently in A3 Cruel doing Docks runs. what is good to start doing A3 progression in HC?

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I've been playing in public groups for HC much more than I did while playing SC. I'm finding myself liking FFA loot rules a lot more than to named because with with FFA I don't need to be respectful to named loot while some asshat doesn't and keeps jacking loot while the party leader does nothing.

Also experienced having someone die in HC in A3 Cruel Docks.
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