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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 24 2023 03:38 GMT
#34121
That's a bold choice Cotton; let's see how it plays out.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 24 2023 06:38 GMT
#34122
If we're trying to be helpful, I think you can do early maps with really bad builds and low life IF you get your resistances capped (aside from chaos res, they are just a bonus to have early on). Which is also why you likely felt shit after doing Kitava, since he lowered your resistances.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-25 13:44:58
October 25 2023 13:44 GMT
#34123
Incomming end of Season event.



Random tree is a bit meh but fun for a couple of days

Sentinel + Lake sound really nice, too bad it's only 7 days

Mayhem 2.0 seem fun, will be probably pretty intense first coule of zone/acts

n_n
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10111 Posts
October 25 2023 21:16 GMT
#34124
On October 24 2023 15:38 HolydaKing wrote:
If we're trying to be helpful, I think you can do early maps with really bad builds and low life IF you get your resistances capped (aside from chaos res, they are just a bonus to have early on). Which is also why you likely felt shit after doing Kitava, since he lowered your resistances.

tbh im not interested in following any guides at the moment. i will free style another character (prob an archer/range) later and after that i will look for guides.

i think you are right about my resistances, you know how much would be the minimun or average to have at this point for me? (just killed kitava). right now i will finish my 3rd ascendancy ang five it another go to maps. about items, im looking for some gloves with speed attack and a better dps mace.
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 25 2023 22:33 GMT
#34125
On October 26 2023 06:16 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2023 15:38 HolydaKing wrote:
If we're trying to be helpful, I think you can do early maps with really bad builds and low life IF you get your resistances capped (aside from chaos res, they are just a bonus to have early on). Which is also why you likely felt shit after doing Kitava, since he lowered your resistances.

tbh im not interested in following any guides at the moment. i will free style another character (prob an archer/range) later and after that i will look for guides.

i think you are right about my resistances, you know how much would be the minimun or average to have at this point for me? (just killed kitava). right now i will finish my 3rd ascendancy ang five it another go to maps. about items, im looking for some gloves with speed attack and a better dps mace.

If I'm perfectly honest, I would recommend maxing fire, lightning and cold res before maps. It's not hard to to with bench crafting and if necessary you can use purity of elements which is a really good defensive aura anyway because shock and freeze immunity is great and ignite immunity helps also against some things.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
October 26 2023 02:29 GMT
#34126
in this case "max res" means hitting the 75% cap. can check in your character tab defences to see what your res is for each stat

new events seems interesting. not sure if the hybrid SC event with 5x death penalty really does much though. only matters if you push past 95
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-26 16:09:46
October 26 2023 16:09 GMT
#34127
On October 26 2023 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
in this case "max res" means hitting the 75% cap. can check in your character tab defences to see what your res is for each stat

new events seems interesting. not sure if the hybrid SC event with 5x death penalty really does much though. only matters if you push past 95

Oh believe me, it matters. For a lot of players. I tend to just alch and go and that leads to deaths every now and then. Lvl 97 is the highest I ever reached, usually I stop at lvl 93-95 because not dying for so long would require me to play the game more safely which I don't really want.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-27 05:04:23
October 26 2023 17:39 GMT
#34128
It should matter a good deal for ~85-95, but not too much before that. It will probably reduce the number of people who reach the different prize thresholds. None of the drawings go past 95, so expect very few people to level beyond it. I'm planning to do one of the events, so I've already shaped my build around including extra defenses because of it. It's tricky because white & yellow maps is where you have the fewest options for improving gear, so if you're pushing the atlas too aggressively and dying you aren't going to make any progress on leveling.

I solo to level 100 every league. I design my builds to include defenses (despite playing in softcore), contrary to the norm. Usually I alch 50-100 maps at a time and just use a regex to quickly reroll the most problematic mods. That alone cuts down on a huge percentage of deaths. That said, on league start I normally don't worry about dying until the mid 90s, since exp is so fast until about 93 and it's easier to build glass when you're impoverished. With the 5x penalty I expect that point to come a lot sooner.

I'm really going to miss Defiance of Destiny. My FR build this league could AFK in 100% delirium and the HP bar would barely move. I ran mirrors earlier in the league on my Sparker with 100% taken as & 90% max res, but defensively that was nothing compared what defiance of destiny added.

I expect that Kalandra will not be worth doing at all if your goal is just speed leveling. Sentinels will probably still be good despite the added danger, though I honestly can't remember all the specifics of what they do to the mobs. I might change my mind later. Unfortunately I expect that we'll get too few recombinators before 95 for their existance to matter.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-27 12:19:23
October 27 2023 12:18 GMT
#34129
huh, I stand corrected. yall think it will be better or worse with the 5x penalty, then?

I'm not super sure if I'm going to play the events. Kinda want to keep on progressing on TOTA league. Want to keep on enjoying tattoos while they are around. I won't play fast enough for 1 week of Sentinel to be interesting
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany355 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-27 21:42:40
October 27 2023 21:41 GMT
#34130
On October 24 2023 09:11 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2023 01:55 Joni_ wrote:
On October 23 2023 02:26 Topin wrote:
i just killed Kitava for the 1st time and tried my 1st map device... oh boy i got oblitarated

Nice, good job becoming a true Godslayer! :D
What kind of character build did you go for?

Also maps are certainly a pretty hefty difficulty spike. It has happened to me many, many times that I reach maps on a character and feel extremely squishy and/or lacking in damage, making me doubt my build. Usually my characters tend to feel a lot better after running some maps, gearing up a bit and gaining some more levels on gems and the passive tree, so dont fret too much! It's extremely easy to underestimate how much better a character will feel with a couple of slightly better items, gems up to 18/19 and level >75 compared to first reaching maps. =)


i built a Juggernaut. i didnt follow any guide i just free styled. i put most of my talent points in maces, stun and life. i realized i was missing the 3rd labyrinth ascendancy thing so i will be doing that before trying maps again.

That sounds pretty dope. What skill are you using? Honestly, I think just freestyling a couple of characters is a great way to have a lot of fun with the campaign and earlier maps.

Agree with what EchelonTee said considering resists etc.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 27 2023 23:04 GMT
#34131
On October 27 2023 21:18 EchelonTee wrote:
huh, I stand corrected. yall think it will be better or worse with the 5x penalty, then?

I'm not super sure if I'm going to play the events. Kinda want to keep on progressing on TOTA league. Want to keep on enjoying tattoos while they are around. I won't play fast enough for 1 week of Sentinel to be interesting

Better or worse in which way? It's definitely going to be more annoying to level to 90-95 if that's your plan. I think it's overall a less enjoyable experience, but probably improves your odds of winning if you're capable of leveling to 95.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 29 2023 09:14 GMT
#34132
If any of you guys are planning to keep playing Ancestor league, I've got stuff to give away (Mageblood, Hinekora's Lock, etc). Send me a PM on TL and I'll do a drawing or something based on who responds.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 29 2023 09:47 GMT
#34133
ahh, a bit to late since the events are starting soon :[
n_n
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 29 2023 11:30 GMT
#34134
I'm probably only gonna be playing the first Krangle league as that's when I have a lot of free time. Sadly that league is also the one I probably like the least, even though I didn't get to play it last time around.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 29 2023 11:35 GMT
#34135
Krangle skill tree is fun but maybe for 2-3 days imo.

To bad you cant play the sentinel / lake event. it look pretty fun
n_n
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 29 2023 12:42 GMT
#34136
On October 29 2023 20:35 FaCE_1 wrote:
Krangle skill tree is fun but maybe for 2-3 days imo.

To bad you cant play the sentinel / lake event. it look pretty fun

I could play it too if I wanted to, but not as much. And knowing myself, if I play the Krangle one, I'm done with PoE until the next league.

But I'm one of the minority that didn't like Sentinel league very much. Kalandra was meh at best. So it's fine. I think I would like the last of the 3 events the best.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
October 30 2023 11:40 GMT
#34137
On October 29 2023 18:14 Craton wrote:
If any of you guys are planning to keep playing Ancestor league, I've got stuff to give away (Mageblood, Hinekora's Lock, etc). Send me a PM on TL and I'll do a drawing or something based on who responds.

I PM'd you

Don't think I'll be playing the events but should see yall online a bit
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 30 2023 23:49 GMT
#34138
Drawings closed. I'll message people over the next few days.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10111 Posts
October 31 2023 00:31 GMT
#34139
On October 28 2023 06:41 Joni_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2023 09:11 Topin wrote:
On October 24 2023 01:55 Joni_ wrote:
On October 23 2023 02:26 Topin wrote:
i just killed Kitava for the 1st time and tried my 1st map device... oh boy i got oblitarated

Nice, good job becoming a true Godslayer! :D
What kind of character build did you go for?

Also maps are certainly a pretty hefty difficulty spike. It has happened to me many, many times that I reach maps on a character and feel extremely squishy and/or lacking in damage, making me doubt my build. Usually my characters tend to feel a lot better after running some maps, gearing up a bit and gaining some more levels on gems and the passive tree, so dont fret too much! It's extremely easy to underestimate how much better a character will feel with a couple of slightly better items, gems up to 18/19 and level >75 compared to first reaching maps. =)


i built a Juggernaut. i didnt follow any guide i just free styled. i put most of my talent points in maces, stun and life. i realized i was missing the 3rd labyrinth ascendancy thing so i will be doing that before trying maps again.

That sounds pretty dope. What skill are you using? Honestly, I think just freestyling a couple of characters is a great way to have a lot of fun with the campaign and earlier maps.

Agree with what EchelonTee said considering resists etc.

my primary attack is heavy strike with 3 support skills. for more damage i use warchief totem, vulnerability curse, blood stance and the fire golem (15% more dps iirc). for defence determination aura. other skills are frostblink and leap slam to escape and frost bomb to fight mosnters with high regeneration (these are my bigggest problem right now).

my resists (fire, cold and light) are like 80, 70, 55 o something like that. i looking for better gear

i had some maps in my inventory that dropped from some monster and were pretty normal. the maps from the npc are on another level xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-31 02:03:20
October 31 2023 02:02 GMT
#34140
They're all the same maps. Kirac ones can come pre-rolled (e.g. using an alch orb on them), which adds extra mods to enemies in exchange for more enemies/drops. For white maps you will usually just transmute and maybe alteration orb them to keep them relatively safe (plus alchs are in short supply initially).

Your choices are pretty reasonable, though golems are a pain to keep alive. Without getting into the math of how damage calculation works, "increased damage" doesn't provide that much per point. 15% increased is probably in the neighborhood of 1-4% actual damage depending on other stats. I recommend giving ancestral protector and flame dash a try. You can stick with what you're using, but it's worth looking at your other options. Frostblink has the advantage of being usable mid-leap, but flame dash has multiple charges. Pride and/or Herald of Purity can both add a good amount of damage if you can fit them.
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