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Gorsameth
Netherlands22073 Posts
On June 17 2020 02:02 Sapaio wrote: except for when your leap slam triggers the impale and not your big attack. Or the low initial hit from earthquake and not the much beefier aftershock.This keystone seem to solve the impale problem with for 2h. Its a good idea, but execution may be lacking. | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
On June 17 2020 02:07 Gorsameth wrote: except for when your leap slam triggers the impale and not your big attack. Or the low initial hit from earthquake and not the much beefier aftershock. Its a good idea, but execution may be lacking. Still leaves Perforate, Ground Slam and Sunder. Can see the problem with Leap Slam. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
The position of it isn't great though, the marauder build I have planned would have pathed to the Duelist from the soul of steel cluster to the impale cluster. But we'll see how the passive tree looks after the changes, Wrecking Ball & Executioner might be worth picking up and then it'd be not a bad idea pathing differently since the fortify wheel is also pretty good. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
Like Pwere said the explosion imaple gloves seem like they'd be insane with this so I'm definitely going to try and nab them up. Even if they end up really expensive there is usually a lag time before a streamer uses them or the meta catches up (ex: purposeful harbinger jewels were relatively cheap once upon a time) | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 17 2020 02:49 EchelonTee wrote: yeah, dash is a good idea so you don't use up exerts or waste The Impaler stacks. I'm still a bit confused on the node. It's definitely not as good as fast attacking impale which is effectively 50% more damage. But if it still ends up an effective 30-40% more damage it'll still be good. It's making me think of going Ground Slam instead of EQ tbh. Like Pwere said the explosion imaple gloves seem like they'd be insane with this so I'm definitely going to try and nab them up. Even if they end up really expensive there is usually a lag time before a streamer uses them or the meta catches up (ex: purposeful harbinger jewels were relatively cheap once upon a time) I think with Ground Slam you'd want Multistrike though since it feels so much better with "auto-aim", and then the 4 seconds seems far too much. In general it seems to be made for ultra slow attackers, so mainly Earthquake. Other builds would probably prefer Impale without the notable since bossing is generally where Impale matters. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [video] + Honestly, with Earthquake if you can get helm enchant, +less duration, you can get to a respectable amount of hits per second, so standard Impale should be fine. It's base duration 1 sec * (0.51) less duration * (0.7) helm enchant = 0.357 sec EQ duration. That's 2 hits per 0.357sec, which is roughly (1 / 0.357) * 2 = 5.6 hits per second. Good enough for bossing, and for mapping everything should die in 1 tap. If it doesn't then you'll have some big aftershock impales stacked up | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On June 16 2020 21:22 Pwere wrote: Did you try Vulkan? It does wonders for CPU-intensive stuff (like spamming storms). I'm likely going Cold DoT now. Trying to fit in the new brand will keep it somewhat fresh. I have plans for Impale with the Harvest gloves, but there's no way they're not multi-ex unless they drop like candies. Wanted to say the same. I logged onto my whispering-ice-char once last week to see if Vulkan did anything. Played a Tier10-Beyond Map - not influenced - and my fps were much much better than I remembered. I cannot connect to the server right now for whatever reason so no chance to post any numbers but it's definitely worth a try. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 17 2020 03:10 EchelonTee wrote: nah multstrike wasn't necessary before and is even less necessary with fist of war / war cries (assuming they end up tuned well enough). Mathil example of old ground slam: + Show Spoiler [video] + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6dIfev32s0 Honestly, with Earthquake if you can get helm enchant, +less duration, you can get to a respectable amount of hits per second, so standard Impale should be fine. It's base duration 1 sec * (0.51) less duration * (0.7) helm enchant = 0.357 sec EQ duration. That's 2 hits per 0.357sec, which is roughly (1 / 0.357) * 2 = 5.6 hits per second. Good enough for bossing, and for mapping everything should die in 1 tap. If it doesn't then you'll have some big aftershock impales stacked up Yeah, you can do it and especially Mathil feels fine with absolutely everything, but I personally tried GS on my Slayer (so a lot of AoE, comparable to what the "slam teaser vid" shows) and while the area coverage was great, it felt much more enjoyable to play with MS and I value that a lot. | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 17 2020 03:51 Sapaio wrote: Isn't it to soon to say what slam is best we don't know the reworks We don't know it yet, but we saw the teasers. Personally Ground Slam looks the most appealing, I already liked it before, especially with the jewels for it. The patch notes and gem reveals will mostly tell us how good the damage output of certain skills will be. edit: New Berserker Ascendancy change is up. Not considering Berserker for now (gotta wait until the patch and new passive tree is up though). Old War Bringer made Berserker have a defensive tool that was pretty bonkers, new War Bringer makes you deal even more damage. Sure, you will delete bosses with the right build, but I don't like it. | ||
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
![[image loading]](https://web.poecdn.com/public/news/2020-06-17/BerserkerAsc.jpg) It's bad with Blitz, bad with Rite, so you get leech + 1st crit node? 2h crit warcry with inconsistent speed seems like a very niche build... | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
The idea of a rage-y, no crit, warcry 2H zerker sounds fun in theory, but I can see why the nodes look like they don't work well together. Rite + Carnage + Warbringer will probably be fine as long as you don't feel like you're constantly smoking all your rage by Warcrying and getting zero returns from taking Rite. Will need to see what the rest of the tree looks like I guess. Keeping a close eye on this as an alternative to Jugg (and can always switch to/from later obv) | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
And yeah, Chieftain looks solid. Sustaining charges isn't so easy tho with 8s enduring cry. | ||
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ASoo
2865 Posts
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
And General Cry is out. Looks fun, but apparently you can't use the skill yourself, so you need to dedicate a 4 or 6L to it. Still looks insane for Earthquake as each Ghost has its own aftershock. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
patch out. first impression - warcries have 0.8 sec cast time? ughhhhhhhhhhhhh -- "Shockwave Support Now gains additional uses as the gem levels up, up to 4 at gem level 20. Now deals 160% of base Damage at gem level 1 (unchanged), up to 260% at gem level 20 (from 210%)." This seems really good actually -- "Labyrinth helmet enchantments that granted reduced Earthquake duration can no longer be obtained, though existing versions are unaffected." what the fuck. guess I got some legacy gear in standard. Makes me less excited to run EQ.... | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
Looking at the atlas shuffle - all the Emperor of Purity-dropping maps are T13+, lol. Had planned to spam Fungal Hollow in SSF. Residence at T14 too, damn. Tropical Island and Glacier are nice T1s to spam for seed... growth? germination?... however. Edit: Prob T3 Pen for The Chains That Bind is the best option, hmmmn, unless I finally want to break my sanity in T2 Cursed Crypt getting data on The Celestial Justicar. | ||
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ASoo
2865 Posts
On June 17 2020 10:06 EchelonTee wrote: warcries have 0.8 sec cast time? ughhhhhhhhhhhhh Does anything reduce that? Action speed I guess, so like Tailwind? They're not spells so not cast speed, right? | ||
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