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ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
February 28 2019 13:45 GMT
#30141
They seem to heavily value player retention stats and I suspect what they found was that running a 1month/race season right before a new league led to lower player retention in the new league because of burnout and that starting a 1month/race season meant the death of the main seasonal league so they don't want to move it forward either. Maximizing overall player retention in a grindy game like PoE seems to require building in some dead periods to force people to avoid burnout.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
February 28 2019 14:54 GMT
#30142
Havent they said it was the other way around? Retention was so good now and in delve that they skipped flashback-esque minileagues.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
February 28 2019 15:00 GMT
#30143
what GGG means by retention is not how long ppl play the league but how many ppl return for the league. I dunno why they use that term, but there posts clarifying that recently.

I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
Soltanol
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany55 Posts
February 28 2019 15:04 GMT
#30144
At least for me these 2-4 week minileagues with rotating mods for each zone, made me burn out quicker. It was like enabling cheat modes and swimming in loot. Fun for a while but longterm motivation really went down.
Races were more fun for me, even though i am a total scrub and can't play that much, I could get a few points and maybe grab the first or second reward.
Maybe they can tweak the private league mechanic enough and enable more modes, leaderboards, special rewards etc. and enable the community in this regard.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 03:07:47
March 02 2019 03:07 GMT
#30145
Huh, never looked into it/thought about it, but hadn't realised with the 3.5 map reshuffle the "quadrants" that atlas-specific map bases dropped in stayed the same - might make it a bit easier to figure out where to go to grind/pray for a Shaped Crystal Belt or Elder Bone Helmet in SSF after 3.6 shuffles everything around again:

3.2:
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[image loading]


3.5:
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[image loading]


Chris Wilson guesting on a podcast (vodcast?) thing tonight; hopefully some productive conversations. The "mods now list the correct relative tiers when they're on items that can't spawn certain tiers!" change is nice QoL while quickly looking at jewellery & equiv.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
March 02 2019 14:01 GMT
#30146
good atlas graphic
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[image loading]
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 23:49:29
March 02 2019 23:49 GMT
#30147
I started practicing fast(er) leveling, it's pretty fun seeing speed progress. I don't think I'll ever get to race-worthy speed but my league starts will hopefully be much faster.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
March 03 2019 01:33 GMT
#30148
On March 03 2019 08:49 PoulsenB wrote:
I started practicing fast(er) leveling, it's pretty fun seeing speed progress. I don't think I'll ever get to race-worthy speed but my league starts will hopefully be much faster.

Can you give a larger how-to on what you're doing and/or where you are getting how to do that?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
March 03 2019 09:23 GMT
#30149
I would honestly never go for race speed for a league start, especially in HC. Unless you are going for 100 first I guess. But yeah, I think the chance of dying is just unnecessarily high.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 16:15:24
March 03 2019 13:00 GMT
#30150
On March 03 2019 10:33 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 08:49 PoulsenB wrote:
I started practicing fast(er) leveling, it's pretty fun seeing speed progress. I don't think I'll ever get to race-worthy speed but my league starts will hopefully be much faster.

Can you give a larger how-to on what you're doing and/or where you are getting how to do that?


You can watch Ziz's practice runs, he does the whole run in about 4 hours. The gist of it is to use

storm brand - added lightning - controlled destr. - onslaught
conductivity (selfcast on bosses)
brand recall - arcane surge
herald of thunder
flame dash - faster casting
lightning spire trap - controlled destr- added lightning damage - elemental focus
shield charge - faster attacks

And instead of using town portals he logs out to character select screen and logs back in everytime he finished a quest and needs to change areas or get quest rewards. Do the quests that give you quicksilver flasks asap and try to reroll one to have adrenaline affix (needs to have high ilvl).

Edit: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2323815
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
March 03 2019 14:51 GMT
#30151
Knowing layouts and restraining yourself from killing too much is most of leveling quickly from a non-race perspective. In races having a strong leveling build and minimizing time in town is important, but for most people who just want to get to maps quicker they are not that important (unless your build really sucks for leveling i guess).
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 03 2019 18:27 GMT
#30152
And I was already planning to league start with Storm Brand since I didn't touch brands in 3.5. Should be a good weekend lol
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 03 2019 19:17 GMT
#30153
A big part of leveling quickly is knowing ahead of time what link setups you'll need. Casters can use the same weapon for the entire game, and you can modify your filter for the specific 4L colors you'll need.

You gotta plan ahead for what currency you'll need to buy your gems as well, and depending on what's available, what craft you're likely to use. This is less a problem in leagues because you'll be doing all your labs and are likely to open a currency chest at some point, or trade in guild chat .

I did about a dozen practice run as well, as Storm Brand is pretty fun. Getting under 2h for A5 Kitava with skill points + lab almost felt like good old races. I somehow doubt GGG is gonna nerf Brands enough that it's not still a top 3 leveling skill.
Memphis404
Profile Joined January 2012
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 19:22:54
March 03 2019 19:22 GMT
#30154
On March 03 2019 22:00 Warri wrote:
Do the quests that give you quicksilver flasks asap and try to reroll one to have adrenaline affix (needs to have high ilvl)

Adrenaline suffix only requires ilvl 5, so not that high. In fact, you can roll it on the flask from the White Beast quest in act 2.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 03 2019 21:22 GMT
#30155
On March 04 2019 04:17 Pwere wrote:
A big part of leveling quickly is knowing ahead of time what link setups you'll need. Casters can use the same weapon for the entire game, and you can modify your filter for the specific 4L colors you'll need.

You gotta plan ahead for what currency you'll need to buy your gems as well, and depending on what's available, what craft you're likely to use. This is less a problem in leagues because you'll be doing all your labs and are likely to open a currency chest at some point, or trade in guild chat .

I did about a dozen practice run as well, as Storm Brand is pretty fun. Getting under 2h for A5 Kitava with skill points + lab almost felt like good old races. I somehow doubt GGG is gonna nerf Brands enough that it's not still a top 3 leveling skill.

Brands & Winter Orb are pretty much ideal skills for consoles, no? Bet they were designed that way. I'm thinking it's very likely both of them will stay great, maybe they won't even get nerfed and just other spells buffed.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 21:49:22
March 03 2019 21:45 GMT
#30156
On March 03 2019 22:00 Warri wrote:
You can watch Ziz's practice runs, he does the whole run in about 4 hours. The gist of it is to use

storm brand - added lightning - controlled destr. - onslaught
conductivity (selfcast on bosses)
brand recall - arcane surge
herald of thunder
flame dash - faster casting
lightning spire trap - controlled destr- added lightning damage - elemental focus
shield charge - faster attacks

And instead of using town portals he logs out to character select screen and logs back in everytime he finished a quest and needs to change areas or get quest rewards. Do the quests that give you quicksilver flasks asap and try to reroll one to have adrenaline affix (needs to have high ilvl).

Edit: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2323815


That's a good/thorough guide; there's also a couple of people's rough notes from some thi23he/Ziz runs:
* Inquisitor
* Elementalist #1
* Elementalist #2

Storm Brand's pretty powerful - I tried leveling an Templar to ~L36 taking a life-based RF tree with only ~7 points detoured into brand-related nodes before respeccing/transitioning after Deshret/normal lab, and it was pretty smooth (just wish I'd realised you're supposed to mule a Shadow to town for Explosive Trap for pre-Lightning Spire Single trap single-target for Templar, though).

A big part of leveling quickly is knowing ahead of time what link setups you'll need. Casters can use the same weapon for the entire game, and you can modify your filter for the specific 4L colors you'll need.

You gotta plan ahead for what currency you'll need to buy your gems as well, and depending on what's available, what craft you're likely to use.


Yeah, setting up your filter to highlight the colour/links you'll need is great for speeding up levelling, and I find moving Chance Orb highlighting up to Alchemy tier helps out at league-start for purchasing both gems and maps from Zana.

Edit: Oh shit, atlas is out! Fungal Hollows at T1 is (reasonably) great; back when it was T3 had thought about farming up a set of Emperor of Purity instead of Humility in Blood Aqueducts/Channel. Moon Temple at T10, Tower down to T13, Waste Pool at T15 ... hmmmn.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 04 2019 00:21 GMT
#30157
On March 04 2019 06:45 Haasts wrote:
Yeah, setting up your filter to highlight the colour/links you'll need is great for speeding up levelling

I haven't done a TON of customization with Filterblade, mostly just changing which bases do/don't show up for chancing or crafting or whatever. Is it easy to, for example, make anything with [at least 4 links]+[at least 3 blue sockets] or whatever show up? As a more general/catch-all case?

Or do you specifically have to do like, independent criteria for gloves(4L+3blue1green), gloves(4L+3blue1red), gloves(4L+4blue), boots boots boots helm helm helm, etc etc.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-04 03:43:50
March 04 2019 01:31 GMT
#30158
On March 04 2019 09:21 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 06:45 Haasts wrote:
Yeah, setting up your filter to highlight the colour/links you'll need is great for speeding up levelling

I haven't done a TON of customization with Filterblade, mostly just changing which bases do/don't show up for chancing or crafting or whatever. Is it easy to, for example, make anything with [at least 4 links]+[at least 3 blue sockets] or whatever show up? As a more general/catch-all case?

Or do you specifically have to do like, independent criteria for gloves(4L+3blue1green), gloves(4L+3blue1red), gloves(4L+4blue), boots boots boots helm helm helm, etc etc.


Yep, it's pretty easy to do that - go 'Leveling (below lvl 65)' => 'Colors and Links' and you have a number of different options. For your "[at least 4 links]+[at least 3 blue sockets]" example, let's see :

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I find the "simulate" option really helpful for seeing what's showing up at various levels to make sure I'm not wasting too much time looking at stuff while trying to zoom-zoom my way to maps while also not missing out on useful bits & pieces. I need to be better at scanning the vendors for MS boots and links when I'm back to town; might put a post-it not on my monitor for league-start.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 04 2019 14:28 GMT
#30159
I found that looking at vendors for 4 Links is way too time consuming. Being colorblind certainly doesn't help, but I'll only look if I already have to interact with that vendor and really need my first 4L. I would look a lot harder in HC, but we SC plebs don't care about a little boss rip.

As for ms boots, many people have a macro that basically writes "mov" into the search field, and this is legal because it's all client-side. Still only saves you a couple seconds each time, but makes those unlucky runs feel a bit better.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-04 22:29:46
March 04 2019 22:22 GMT
#30160
https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/axcp1x/ethereal_feast_is_another_new_notable_passive/

What the fuck is that note, like... really?

If ES doesn't get nerfed in any other way and life casters don't get spell life leech, then I'm 100% sure I'll be either doing a LL Occultist or Hybrid Life/ES Occultist. As will many others.
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