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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 05:07:53
September 10 2017 05:07 GMT
#26161
Ripped as well earlier on my 88 DP zerker. Was kind of lame. Doing a beyond map and got Na'em summon while fighting harbinger pack. Well everything is dead so its just Na'em but he runs into one of the harbinger proximity shield totem things so Im not able to hit him to leech, as i run into the proximity shield to be able to dmg him his aoe line skill thing goes off and rips me. I guess vaal pact is stupid strong ----- until you are stuck not being able to damage the mobs O_O.

So level 88 is still my highest level in HC ='[. Was hoping I would get this character to 90. feels bad.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 10:08:02
September 10 2017 10:05 GMT
#26162
@incerinate that sucks man. I haven't been Kripp'd yet but it's bound to happen

I think all the T9s are quite bad. If you must shape one, Coves is the best imo. Good density, so so layout. However this hurts sextanting Shore and Tropical Island. if you aren't mass sextanting, I would definitely pick this.

I think the Crypt layout is too poopy. I also find the boss questionable; you can't curse him (well, you shouldn't), he Has a powerful slam, and the curse auras on the ground are pretty annoying

Personally, I have no T9's shaped. My only T14 is Volcano. It has a nice layout, decent density, and most importantly drops steel rings and kaom's heart cards. I often skip the boss though. I considered adding Springs (decent layout, Easy boss) and Maze (opal rings), but decided not to
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 20:11:33
September 10 2017 20:11 GMT
#26163
On September 10 2017 04:35 EchelonTee wrote:
@duka08 if you want best off screen clear you probably want to do vaal power siphon with queen of the forest. It can be kinda expensive and is squishy, but the clear is crazy. Cutedog's guide here - his gear is super insane, you don't need that much
+ Show Spoiler +


I spent last evening tinkering around in PoB trying to bastardize a version of this build that's more affordable and slightly more survivable, and planned out the leveling. Having fun so far. VPS is fun to tap once in a while, even at lower levels. Pretty excited to actually map with it.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 10 2017 21:38 GMT
#26164
On September 10 2017 19:05 EchelonTee wrote:
@incerinate that sucks man. I haven't been Kripp'd yet but it's bound to happen

I think all the T9s are quite bad. If you must shape one, Coves is the best imo. Good density, so so layout. However this hurts sextanting Shore and Tropical Island. if you aren't mass sextanting, I would definitely pick this.

I think the Crypt layout is too poopy. I also find the boss questionable; you can't curse him (well, you shouldn't), he Has a powerful slam, and the curse auras on the ground are pretty annoying

Personally, I have no T9's shaped. My only T14 is Volcano. It has a nice layout, decent density, and most importantly drops steel rings and kaom's heart cards. I often skip the boss though. I considered adding Springs (decent layout, Easy boss) and Maze (opal rings), but decided not to

Wait, steel rings on drop on some maps? I thought they dropped on all once you got to high enough level maps?!
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 11 2017 00:48 GMT
#26165
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Steel_Ring
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 02:48:40
September 11 2017 02:48 GMT
#26166
Why would anyone even farm Volcano if just doing it once "unlocked" Steel Rings everywhere? You'd just do them once and go back to farming shaped Shores.

Though I guess people do that anyway.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 11 2017 03:05 GMT
#26167
knowledge on the map only high lvl items has been a bit foggy in the past. For the longest time (all of Essence League. intentional perhaps?), the information on the wiki was wrong. TBH I only 100% trust the info if I or someone in guild has found it.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Scepty
Profile Joined August 2011
22 Posts
September 11 2017 10:03 GMT
#26168
Hey there... so I started the game yesterday for the first time. I've chosen witch class for the sake of simplicity. Started leveling up cold damage passives, and i kinda like it. Any suggestions for skills and passives and general tips would be greatly appreciated :D
I reject your reality and substitute my own
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 11 2017 13:25 GMT
#26169
On September 11 2017 19:03 Scepty wrote:
Hey there... so I started the game yesterday for the first time. I've chosen witch class for the sake of simplicity. Started leveling up cold damage passives, and i kinda like it. Any suggestions for skills and passives and general tips would be greatly appreciated :D

Sorry to say but you missed the version of the game where elemental witch is good. With witch people go Occultist and focus on chaos damage or Necromancer and focus on summons.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
September 11 2017 13:30 GMT
#26170
I would say that your first character is going to be bad and that you should just enjoy the first ten acts to see if you enjoy the game at all. Then if you do go on the forum and copy a build that has stats and posts to back it up for your second build.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 13:52:05
September 11 2017 13:51 GMT
#26171
On September 11 2017 22:30 Sermokala wrote:
I would say that your first character is going to be bad and that you should just enjoy the first ten acts to see if you enjoy the game at all. Then if you do go on the forum and copy a build that has stats and posts to back it up for your second build.

And it might make the whole game more fun it he at least try to play something decent. I can already imagine the frustration about playing an elemental witch. He will neither have HP or DPS and it will not be fun at all.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 11 2017 14:06 GMT
#26172
Why is elemental witch bad?
Golems are cool, spellpen is good?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 11 2017 14:17 GMT
#26173
Eh, it all depends on what you want out of it.

Sure, something like Freeze Pulse Elementalist is objectively bad, but I'd be surprised if it can't be viable and fun to play for someone new to PoE all the way into at least low red maps. If you want a 'good build' to start out with then there are certainly better options but I wouldn't say that's the only way to start playing the game even though it's the one I'd usually recommend.

If you're the type of guy who enjoys going into things blind and you're sure that you'll give it another run with something 'strong' eventually, then by all means try and figure some things out on your own. If you're sure that you'd never touch the game again if you run into a brick wall then pick something that is considered tried and tested.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 14:47:46
September 11 2017 14:46 GMT
#26174
Indeed. For beginners on the first char elemental witch is very fine. I doubt any beginner that doesn't follow a build will make it far enough for Ascendancys to matter (or rather: for them to be significantly better than others).
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 11 2017 15:17 GMT
#26175
On September 11 2017 23:06 Duvon wrote:
Why is elemental witch bad?
Golems are cool, spellpen is good?

Because:
#1 double dip nerfs
#2 Berserker exists
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 15:33:22
September 11 2017 15:32 GMT
#26176
You can survive the story as elementalist. That's all that matters for first char. A few of my friends that picked the game up @ 3.0 like I did are finally getting into mapping and already planning a new character because their first one was suboptimal. And I expected some of them to be annoyed by the idea of starting over and probably just give up the game altogether, but surprisingly not really. I think by the end of the Acts reasonable people both expect to be struggling if they were just winging it their first time, and understand that re-running the story content goes much quicker after your first time around (both because you know where you're going, and your build is tighter / might have a few low level uniques carrying you)

Just play whatever and do the Acts. Enjoy it. The passive tree can be fun if you just walk around to stuff that sounds good without min/maxing lol. When you do find those big nodes once in a while, you can really feel it. Just don't slouch on defense! It's tempting to just hit all the nodes that sync with the type of damage you're doing, but life% and other defenses/regen go a long long way.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 11 2017 15:39 GMT
#26177
i've played since closed beta, most of my builds still suck

the only thing that has changed is that i can level pretty quick.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 15:56:24
September 11 2017 15:53 GMT
#26178
Is there a who's who between IGN and forum names? It'd be nice to know who's been helping me

I bought a sprinkler and started a new build. This guide was the only one I found, there are some debate about whether Iron Grip is good or not, is there another one I should look at for more info on the tree?
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 17:14:29
September 11 2017 17:00 GMT
#26179
On September 12 2017 00:17 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 23:06 Duvon wrote:
Why is elemental witch bad?
Golems are cool, spellpen is good?

Because:
#1 double dip nerfs
#2 Berserker exists

Wouldnt doubledipping affect all classes the same (in regards to spellcasting)?
And zerker seems a bit broken, sure, but that doesnt directly mean another class is bad?
Dammit always phrasing like questions lol.

Looked at a couple of rain of fire builds the other day.
Both seemed quite beginner friendly, one with mom+minions, one with vaal pact and blasphemy warlords, no required uniques.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 17:40:17
September 11 2017 17:38 GMT
#26180
On September 12 2017 02:00 Duvon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 00:17 -Archangel- wrote:
On September 11 2017 23:06 Duvon wrote:
Why is elemental witch bad?
Golems are cool, spellpen is good?

Because:
#1 double dip nerfs
#2 Berserker exists

Wouldnt doubledipping affect all classes the same (in regards to spellcasting)?
And zerker seems a bit broken, sure, but that doesnt directly mean another class is bad?
Dammit always phrasing like questions lol.

Looked at a couple of rain of fire builds the other day.
Both seemed quite beginner friendly, one with mom+minions, one with vaal pact and blasphemy warlords, no required uniques.

Doubledipping hit Elementalist the most as it has almost nothing else. It has most increased elemental damage bonuses of any class and it has best elemental penetration (which also worked well with double dipping)that let you skip on Pen gem.
And Elementalist already had some nerfs from previous patches.
You could now go crit Elementalist but that character is still better as Inquisitor, Assassin or Scion.

Double dipping Elementalist let you skip crit and still have good DPS, now you can only do something like that with a Berserker while in truth we are back to crit builds meta.

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