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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-31 22:57:15
August 31 2017 22:56 GMT
#26001
If I had a mirror I'd croon to it instead ;_;

*edit* Don't tell my exalts I said so.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 31 2017 22:57 GMT
#26002
On September 01 2017 06:45 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 06:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
He's got 2 posts and none of them are requesting to join the guild, don't be too concerned.

Also keep in mind that, contrary to what wild claims you might hear from butthurt banned people on reddit, GGG doesn't simply unilaterally ban an entire guild for one member's RMT, unless there's been a crazy amount of him feeding stuff to the guild stash.

Thanks, I'll read this post repeatedly to myself as I rock back and forth softly crooning to my Exalts that I won't let anything happen to them.

The odds of something like this happening, as Sn0 said, are low for sure.

However, they're not zero and in general there isn't that much difference between cheating and RMTing so it's not like we have any reason to be soft about it anyway. There's really not much to say on this topic besides: "No, just no."
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
August 31 2017 23:57 GMT
#26003
On September 01 2017 07:57 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 06:45 ASoo wrote:
On September 01 2017 06:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
He's got 2 posts and none of them are requesting to join the guild, don't be too concerned.

Also keep in mind that, contrary to what wild claims you might hear from butthurt banned people on reddit, GGG doesn't simply unilaterally ban an entire guild for one member's RMT, unless there's been a crazy amount of him feeding stuff to the guild stash.

Thanks, I'll read this post repeatedly to myself as I rock back and forth softly crooning to my Exalts that I won't let anything happen to them.

The odds of something like this happening, as Sn0 said, are low for sure.

However, they're not zero and in general there isn't that much difference between cheating and RMTing so it's not like we have any reason to be soft about it anyway. There's really not much to say on this topic besides: "No, just no."

Remember kids Just say no.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
nonoes
Profile Joined April 2017
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 00:55:24
September 01 2017 00:54 GMT
#26004
I guess that players will stop pretending skytoss is too strong with 40 air dps cyclones and 7 full seconds off "stun" ( yes the unit can't move or fight back during entangle) for 50 energy for zergs.

i'm kidding actually i think whiners will still complain about that ^^
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 01 2017 01:15 GMT
#26005
On September 01 2017 09:54 nonoes wrote:
I guess that players will stop pretending skytoss is too strong with 40 air dps cyclones and 7 full seconds off "stun" ( yes the unit can't move or fight back during entangle) for 50 energy for zergs.

i'm kidding actually i think whiners will still complain about that ^^

I believe you are in the wrong thread friend
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2709 Posts
September 01 2017 02:53 GMT
#26006
I kinda ripped my wandwitch because I didn't realize vaal pact no longer works with ghost reaver, so I didn't include any way to offset essentially raw physical damage coming at me, and I feel like I fundamentally fucked the build up enough other ways for it to not be worth trying to fix. I'll probably try rebuild it as a pure physical Slayer, and probably at some point in the build wonder why the fuck I'm still trying to use wands.

But hey life / lifeleech feels really strong.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
September 01 2017 03:37 GMT
#26007
I've got the most kickass leveling staff you've ever seen and it's making my rf marauder leveling tge dumbest fun ever. I right click sunder while pausing every couple seconds to see if my stone golem has died or my rejuvenate totem has expired/died. Once everything is dead I leap strike until the next group. I don't even have to move during boss fights. I get half life at worst and then I regen everything back up.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
September 01 2017 05:39 GMT
#26008
On August 31 2017 23:13 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2017 12:44 Lachrymose wrote:
Man, the Abyssus Flicker dream is dead. I can barely manage white map phys. reflect with life leech gem in and it's super scary. That's with Yugul and Headsman.

Back to boring old Starkonja's.

Although, why do phys reflect maps?

Well that was just to test it out because I randomly found an Abyssus and remembered I was considering using one back during planning. And it wasn't even close. I'm sure a meaty phys reflect rare would do the trick in a real map.
~
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 01 2017 07:42 GMT
#26009
On September 01 2017 10:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 09:54 nonoes wrote:
I guess that players will stop pretending skytoss is too strong with 40 air dps cyclones and 7 full seconds off "stun" ( yes the unit can't move or fight back during entangle) for 50 energy for zergs.

i'm kidding actually i think whiners will still complain about that ^^

I believe you are in the wrong thread friend

Please leave that there rofl. We've had pizza dough recipes why not balance whining for sc2 :D
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 16:18:53
September 01 2017 16:17 GMT
#26010
I don't really know where else to ask this (the official forums are a bit like old BW forums, an elitist flaming mess), but SRS doesn't scale with anything but gems/jewels, right? No primary stat is important?

I'm asking because i realised my witch is/was running around in cloth (because that's what casters wear, right? ..), it really wouldn't make sense not to wear heavy armor? I feel like i shoehorn myself into some stupid things based on perceptions from other games.
On track to MA1950A.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 01 2017 16:36 GMT
#26011
On September 02 2017 01:17 m4ini wrote:
I feel like i shoehorn myself into some stupid things based on perceptions from other games.

I've had a lot of these same revelations learning this game the past few weeks...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 16:44:26
September 01 2017 16:42 GMT
#26012
SRS Scales with minion stats, cast speed, duration, gem levels, and socketed support gems. Not much else.

Early game it really doesn't matter, but late game you'll decide what "type" of armour you wear based on a few considerations.

1) are you focusing on any of Armour/Evasion/ES? Probably not as a life based SRS build, but some take Eldritch Battery to enable more auras and as such need decent ES on gear. I'm just going to assume you won't be able to reach a useful armour/evasion total (anything below 5K can be entirely disregarded) on an SRS build, nor would there be good reason to.

2) Socket colours. While your primary skill is I assume going to be SRS in a 5/6L staff, you will need to consider what other links you'll need (Auras, mobility, vaal skills, Cast When Damage Taken links, Curses, etc). CwDT links, especially, are notorious for needing at least 3 red links. That's VERY hard to roll on 170-int-required boots/gloves. (gear is more likely to chrome to the colour(s) associated with it's required attribute(s)). I often buy hybrid gear just to make it easier to roll the colours i'm looking for even if I also want one of the associated defenses (ar/ev/es).

3) ability to roll explicit mods. While all types of gear can roll the important explicit mods (life/resists), some affixes only really roll on certain bases. Most pieces of armour can't roll mana or int unless they have energy shield on them, for example.

While these factors do increase the likelihood that your "caster witch" will run around in "cloth/robes/etc", there's certainly no requirement that you do nor is there an inherent advantage outside of the considerations I specified.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 16:45:19
September 01 2017 16:42 GMT
#26013
It does scale with minion damage from the passive tree and all other minion related stuff on the tree or items. Primary stats are fillers for item requirements, like for almost all builds. Fire damage, spell damage and all other stats don't work though.

And yeah cast speed, but only as long as you aren't able to get the maximum amount. Also forgot increased duration which IS huge.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 16:58:25
September 01 2017 16:50 GMT
#26014
On September 02 2017 01:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
SRS Scales with minion damage, cast speed, duration, gem levels, and socketed support gems. Not much else.

Early game it really doesn't matter, but late game you'll decide what "type" of armour you wear based on a few considerations.

1) are you focusing on any of Armour/Evasion/ES? Probably not as a life based SRS build, but some take Eldritch Battery to enable more auras and as such need decent ES on gear. I'm just going to assume you won't be able to reach a useful armour/evasion total (anything below 5K can be entirely disregarded) on an SRS build, nor would there be good reason to.


No, it's not ES based.


2) Socket colours. While your primary skill is I assume going to be SRS in a 5/6L staff, you will need to consider what other links you'll need (Auras, mobility, vaal skills, Cast When Damage Taken links, Curses, etc). CwDT links, especially, are notorious for needing at least 3 red links. That's VERY hard to roll on 170-int-required boots/gloves. (gear is more likely to chrome to the colour(s) associated with it's required attribute(s)). I often buy hybrid gear just to make it easier to roll the colours i'm looking for even if I also want one of the associated defenses (ar/ev/es).


That went so far over my head, i don't even know where to begin asking, hehe. There's some things i don't understand anyway, for example "the need (or recommendation) of "The Baron", if the only thing in there is the stone elemental and decoy totem + generosity and hatred. The 20% minion life don't really matter as far as i can tell, and i'm not sure i'll reach more than 1000 strength to get the +strength bonus (to minions) either.


3) ability to roll explicit mods. While all types of gear can roll the important explicit mods (life/resists), some affixes only really roll on certain bases. Most pieces of armour can't roll mana or int unless they have energy shield on them, for example.


Hm.. I don't think i'd need to roll mana anyway, because of blood magic later down the line, which makes strength (hitpoints?) and life in general important?


While these factors do increase the likelihood that your "caster witch" will run around in "cloth/robes/etc", there's certainly no requirement that you do nor is there an inherent advantage outside of the considerations I specified.


Guess i'll settle for plate, as i upgrade.

This here btw is the build.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1931356

edit:

You guys sure about added firedamage/elemental damage not scaling with SRS? As far as i understand, SRS does 100% physical damage +50% added as fire damage. I'm actually not entirely sure how that works in the first place.
On track to MA1950A.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 17:06:24
September 01 2017 17:03 GMT
#26015
Any scaling of "fire" or "elemental" or "physical" damage that you get applies to your damage NOT your minions (unless it specifically says "Minion" before it). Very certain.

Also it's not 50% of phys added as fire, its 50% of phys converted to fire. So it does 50/50 but scaling phys scales all of it because of how conversion works.

Note that strength grants 2% melee phys dmg per 10 points, which is why the baron granting your strength to your SRS is so good (at 1000 strength thats 200% increased damage for your SRS).

Also note that gear won't naturally roll strength on it unless it has some armour on it (requires some amount of strength) so late-game you'll probably be using a lot of "plate" as you term it.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 17:10:34
September 01 2017 17:09 GMT
#26016
Ah, that makes it more clear.

But, in case of Baron, 1000 strength sounds really high. Maybe because my only other character is just 70. How on earth do you get there?

Okay. Nevermind, i seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. For some reason i thought the damage only gets added once you reach 1000 str - but that's the lifeleech.

Guess i need one. As soon as i have the needed amount of Cs (SRS feels really slow currently). Best way to farm chaos orbs, i assume, is mapping?

edit: as someone who really isn't into poe.trade that much other to fill gaps?
On track to MA1950A.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 01 2017 17:16 GMT
#26017
SRS should be fine for a decent while before you get the baron. If you linked your character here we might be able to give more specific advice.
(https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/[your name here], make sure to go to your privacy settings on the right of your profile page and untick "set profile as private" and "hide characters tab" )

For inexperienced players, the fastest way to make currency is indeed mapping and specifically doing the chaos recipe (vendor 1 full set of rare gear above ilevel 60).
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 01 2017 17:17 GMT
#26018
On September 02 2017 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
For inexperienced players, the fastest way to make currency is indeed mapping and specifically doing the chaos recipe (vendor 1 full set of rare gear above ilevel 60).

Is there a trick to this besides just having a shit load of stash space lol
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 17:17:29
September 01 2017 17:17 GMT
#26019
On September 02 2017 02:09 m4ini wrote:
Ah, that makes it more clear.

But, in case of Baron, 1000 strength sounds really high. Maybe because my only other character is just 70. How on earth do you get there?

Okay. Nevermind, i seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. For some reason i thought the damage only gets added once you reach 1000 str - but that's the lifeleech.

Guess i need one. As soon as i have the needed amount of Cs (SRS feels really slow currently). Best way to farm chaos orbs, i assume, is mapping?

edit: as someone who really isn't into poe.trade that much other to fill gaps?

Apparently using Wicker Man spectre is a perfect way to make your SRS build more usable. Wicker man have Righteous Fire aura and are really hard to kill. They work well as your "Clear shit" summon.
SRS you can focus as "Kill bosses" summon.
You don't even need Baron.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 17:21:51
September 01 2017 17:19 GMT
#26020
On September 02 2017 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
SRS should be fine for a decent while before you get the baron. If you linked your character here we might be able to give more specific advice.
(https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/[your name here], make sure to go to your privacy settings on the right of your profile page and untick "set profile as private" and "hide characters tab" )

For inexperienced players, the fastest way to make currency is indeed mapping and specifically doing the chaos recipe (vendor 1 full set of rare gear above ilevel 60).


https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/m4ini

Any idea, roughly (very roughly) how long it takes to farm 70 orbs that way?

Is there a trick to this besides just having a shit load of stash space lol


Bought the quad stash just for that, hehe.

Apparently using Wicker Man spectre is a perfect way to make your SRS build more usable. Wicker man have Righteous Fire aura and are really hard to kill. They work well as your "Clear shit" summon.
SRS you can focus as "Kill bosses" summon.
You don't even need Baron.


Hm. Wicker Man spectre?

I don't think i've met them yet? I mean i do level "summon spectre" just because i had the slot on the gear, but so far, my experience with the ones i did summon (act four or something, those ribbon things), was rather underwhelming.
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