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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 16 2017 19:08 GMT
#25741
On August 17 2017 03:35 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 03:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
As a relatively new player, I wish there was a decent way to know which items are worth anything or not.

https://github.com/PoE-TradeMacro/POE-TradeMacro/releases

run this and hit ctrl-d in game and it'll give you the prices according to poe.trade. sometimes doesn't work for rares
it looks like this
[image loading]

Is that the same tool that lets you see tier of each of the mods of the item you are mousing over?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-16 20:17:00
August 16 2017 20:15 GMT
#25742
On August 17 2017 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah rares are the issue though. How do I know what makes a rare 'good?'

You really only learn that by playing lots of different builds.

Usually you want armour to at least have lots of resistances and life, same for rings. But you need quite a bit for most of them to be worth something.

Bows & most weapons you want lots of physical damage or lots of elemental damage, crit chance can make them even more worth. Generally, flat elemental damage is only desired on really quick weapons, like the fastest foils and bows.

But there are so many things that can be desired depending on the build, for example Intelligence on rings is really nice for most marauders so having that together with good res and life will probably up the price quite a bit. For RF players high Strength and as much Life as possible is desired, so if you have both of those with a really high roll chances are you can sell the ring. Then there are builds that stack Dexterity, for example Iron Commander Ballista builds etcetc...
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 00:43:49
August 17 2017 00:42 GMT
#25743
On August 17 2017 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah rares are the issue though. How do I know what makes a rare 'good?'

The easiest way to put it (and this is how the trade macro posted above should be used to 'pricecheck' rares) is that if a few high-tier rolls that work together show up on one item then it could be worth quite a bit.

%spell dmg, cast speed, flat spell damage on a wand/sceptre

attack speed, spell damage, crit multi on a dagger (the people who want daggers as casters need high attack speed)

high total resists, life or ES and something on top like a high damage or ele roll

T1 life, high strength and high resists on a coral base is insane this league specifically (RF builds).

2 stats that work together and are supported by something somehow is usually sellable. 3+ high stats that work together is usually rather valuable. 4-5+ high stats that work together can quickly be in the multiple exalt range.

Those kind of things. When an item has multiple high rolls that *could* work together but you can't think of something, better link it in guild to get another idea. While that's not perfect either it could bring in the extra perspective that makes you not sell a 2-3ex item for a few chaos. Most money is usually made with lots of smaller sales, that's where "tabs are p2w" is pretty accurate from my point of view.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
August 17 2017 00:46 GMT
#25744
Turns out leapslaming into magic pack thats on shocked ground is a bad idea. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Pretty expensive rip that one.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 17 2017 01:22 GMT
#25745
On August 17 2017 04:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 03:35 Frolossus wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
As a relatively new player, I wish there was a decent way to know which items are worth anything or not.

https://github.com/PoE-TradeMacro/POE-TradeMacro/releases

run this and hit ctrl-d in game and it'll give you the prices according to poe.trade. sometimes doesn't work for rares
it looks like this
[image loading]

Is that the same tool that lets you see tier of each of the mods of the item you are mousing over?

yeah. that is ctrl-c.


anyone have advice for what to invest in next for my bladeflurry character to help with damage in early maps?
www.poeurl.com/bs4G

-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 17 2017 08:41 GMT
#25746
On August 17 2017 10:22 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 04:08 -Archangel- wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:35 Frolossus wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
As a relatively new player, I wish there was a decent way to know which items are worth anything or not.

https://github.com/PoE-TradeMacro/POE-TradeMacro/releases

run this and hit ctrl-d in game and it'll give you the prices according to poe.trade. sometimes doesn't work for rares
it looks like this
[image loading]

Is that the same tool that lets you see tier of each of the mods of the item you are mousing over?

yeah. that is ctrl-c.


anyone have advice for what to invest in next for my bladeflurry character to help with damage in early maps?
www.poeurl.com/bs4G


I am not knowledgeable about gladiator builds but I would take two frenzy charge nodes and get Blood rage or something. More damage and attack speed is never bad.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 14:20:21
August 17 2017 14:19 GMT
#25747
I opened Hall of Grandmasters map last night without reading about it, lost all of my exp bar from some hilarious deaths. There a level 100 char named Zami or something that I do literally no dmg to, rip.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 15:11:04
August 17 2017 15:04 GMT
#25748
there's dyness which is a ES regen tank with insanely overcapped resists. he used to be almost impossible to kill but then frost bolt came out. and now ES is nerfed, so maybe he's actually a pushover now. :p
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
August 17 2017 15:44 GMT
#25749
Looking to start a new char capable of all end game contents, is this RF build good? Aside from Kaom's, everything else seems rather affordable?
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 19:03:32
August 17 2017 19:01 GMT
#25750
On August 18 2017 00:44 Glacierz wrote:
Looking to start a new char capable of all end game contents, is this RF build good? Aside from Kaom's, everything else seems rather affordable?


Disclaimer: I didn't read the whole guide.

His Claim that you can do -max or vulnerability maps is probably not quite true if you play hardcore (in this case I don't want to rely on ruby flask uptime to survive) or don't have gems corrupted to lvl 21. Also I doubt that you can do a combination of these mods unless you have really good gear. This may become an issue in running red maps where you want double pack size rolls.

I also don't see how he actually uses cyclone on mana (he doesn't seem to use BM with it)? It's also popular to link cyclone with life gain on hit for extra survivability. Also not sure how reliable the lgoh or the elemental overload procs are with zero accuracy without doing the math(EO should probably be fine, but lgoh may not be as effective as desired).

But yeah the only mandatory item for RF is usually Rise of the Phoenix (and a decently leveled vitality + purity of fire). Just checked, RotP is 25c in Harbinger HC seems RF builds are super popular again but it's a 1c item in harbinger sc.

It looks like a decent guide. The main points of any RF build are: Stack life regen and life, trigger elemental equlibrium, chieftain is definitely a good ascendancy choice.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
August 17 2017 19:15 GMT
#25751
You can probably even drop vitality later on. Pohx has many videos of his RF chars in this & past HC leagues that might interest you.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 19:56:35
August 17 2017 19:54 GMT
#25752
I am in SC, so survivability is less of a concern. My GC miner build gets one shot by random stuff on high tier maps, so I don't think I can farm end game bosses with it.

Speaking of SC, I'm guessing there are more efficient builds out there for farming end game bosses that are much less safe? Maybe I should look those up instead.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 17 2017 21:24 GMT
#25753
On August 18 2017 04:54 Glacierz wrote:
I am in SC, so survivability is less of a concern. My GC miner build gets one shot by random stuff on high tier maps, so I don't think I can farm end game bosses with it.

Speaking of SC, I'm guessing there are more efficient builds out there for farming end game bosses that are much less safe? Maybe I should look those up instead.

Totem builds or high life leech build will work. ED CI build with high ES will work as well.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
August 18 2017 05:11 GMT
#25754
On August 18 2017 04:01 incinerate_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 00:44 Glacierz wrote:
Looking to start a new char capable of all end game contents, is this RF build good? Aside from Kaom's, everything else seems rather affordable?


Disclaimer: I didn't read the whole guide.

His Claim that you can do -max or vulnerability maps is probably not quite true if you play hardcore (in this case I don't want to rely on ruby flask uptime to survive) or don't have gems corrupted to lvl 21. Also I doubt that you can do a combination of these mods unless you have really good gear. This may become an issue in running red maps where you want double pack size rolls.

I also don't see how he actually uses cyclone on mana (he doesn't seem to use BM with it)? It's also popular to link cyclone with life gain on hit for extra survivability. Also not sure how reliable the lgoh or the elemental overload procs are with zero accuracy without doing the math(EO should probably be fine, but lgoh may not be as effective as desired).

But yeah the only mandatory item for RF is usually Rise of the Phoenix (and a decently leveled vitality + purity of fire). Just checked, RotP is 25c in Harbinger HC seems RF builds are super popular again but it's a 1c item in harbinger sc.

It looks like a decent guide. The main points of any RF build are: Stack life regen and life, trigger elemental equlibrium, chieftain is definitely a good ascendancy choice.

Running vuln maps on HC is trivial, so is using mana for cyclone. RotP is not really mandatory. You only really need a leveled PoF.
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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
August 18 2017 06:08 GMT
#25755
Killed Kitava yesterday on my lvl 72 Scorching Ray Necromancer in SSF Harbinger HC league.

What a fight. Nearly died several times but tp´d out just in time when my flasks were out and hp almost 0, lol.
I tried to complete merc lab before doing Kitava but it was a lag fest, especially at Izaro and I decided it was too dangerous to continue in there.
Anyone else getting a lot of lag in patch 3.0?
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 18 2017 06:23 GMT
#25756
Anyone have some favorite or recommended builds that're a bit heavier on the survivability side? I've played a few things that feel fragile at this point and want to try something tankier as a weekend project, even if the clear/boss speeds are a bit slower.
Corak
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany188 Posts
August 18 2017 07:49 GMT
#25757
On August 18 2017 15:08 DaCruise wrote:
Anyone else getting a lot of lag in patch 3.0?


I had crazy lag during my Merciless Labyrinth in the final boss room. SC, so I took the fight after switching zones so see if it helped. No lag outside, unplayable lag inside the final Aspirant's Trial. Only time I had lag in 3.0.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 18 2017 08:21 GMT
#25758
For people with occasional lag spikes, try a different server. Especially the Europeans. Frankfurt is shit for most players pretty often, Germans included. I also had someone say Amsterdam was bad yesterday. I can only vouch for Milan and Moscow, even if the ping is a bit higher. At both of these I didn't have any problems yet.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 18 2017 10:18 GMT
#25759
On August 18 2017 17:21 HolydaKing wrote:
For people with occasional lag spikes, try a different server. Especially the Europeans. Frankfurt is shit for most players pretty often, Germans included. I also had someone say Amsterdam was bad yesterday. I can only vouch for Milan and Moscow, even if the ping is a bit higher. At both of these I didn't have any problems yet.

Milan is absolutely my go to as well, it's usually the last server that has issues in my experience. Frankfurt/Amsterdam/London/Paris can all be shitshows if there is high enough traffic.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7712 Posts
August 18 2017 10:48 GMT
#25760
On August 18 2017 19:18 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 17:21 HolydaKing wrote:
For people with occasional lag spikes, try a different server. Especially the Europeans. Frankfurt is shit for most players pretty often, Germans included. I also had someone say Amsterdam was bad yesterday. I can only vouch for Milan and Moscow, even if the ping is a bit higher. At both of these I didn't have any problems yet.

Milan is absolutely my go to as well, it's usually the last server that has issues in my experience. Frankfurt/Amsterdam/London/Paris can all be shitshows if there is high enough traffic.

Interesting, I must test this
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