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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
August 07 2017 21:45 GMT
#25501
Hey guys I made Glacial Cascade Mines as my starter and it feels like the most absurdly powerful character I've ever played. The only downside is that you are very squishy and I died multiple times on the act 9 and 10 bosses. Thankfully I play softcore

Still, I would be shocked if it wasn't nerfed. You need 0 items and can kill anything up to early-mid maps. It's shocking to 2-shot bosses with no items. I'm having a blast.
good vibes only
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 22:05:31
August 07 2017 22:05 GMT
#25502
Everyone I've heard from who's tried mines says the same thing, damage/clear is amazing but you die a bunch. What can be done to mitigate this?
  • Can you reasonably go block with mines? Maybe with The Surrender or something (obviously that's not a budget option)?
  • Can you get high dodge/spell dodge while still maintaining a decent health pool and good damage?
  • Can you get your raw Life+Mana high enough to feel tanky with just MoM?
  • Is there a good way of getting a bunch of mitigation (e.g., high Fortify uptime, easy endurance charge generation, higher-than-normal resists)?
Just seems like this should be solvable.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 07 2017 23:35 GMT
#25503
I'm not sure what glacial cascade mine build we are specifically talking about, is there a common one? You have to see the tree etc before any changes get proposed.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 07 2017 23:37 GMT
#25504
Just as a PSA,

PoeApp is drastically outperforming poetrade currently, I don't know if its an API issue or traffic or some design issue, but I've been pitting them against each other for my livesearches, and PoeApp is consistantly 10-30 seconds faster, but with many PoeApp results simply never even appearing on PoeTrade.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 08 2017 00:59 GMT
#25505
My gc mines build gets ~185% life and mom, good positioning should be enough at that amount of defence.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
August 08 2017 01:13 GMT
#25506
Who must I speak to, to get an invite to the TL guild?

I'm @Tolan.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-08 01:58:19
August 08 2017 01:32 GMT
#25507


This is the glacial cascade mine build I've been following, but my character is still young. I'm not so familiar with the details of the tree, but I'd happily make a handful of damage sacrifices for a bit of survivability along the way, if anyone has any particular suggestions.

Edit: direct link to the skill tree from his description http://poeurl.com/bo9Y
It seems like booking it toward the Constitution cluster sooner than later would help, but would that be enough?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-08 03:01:52
August 08 2017 02:55 GMT
#25508
For newer players I'd definitely aim towards health over damage, especially on a build like this as a 4link running glacial cascade, remote mines, minefield and physical to lighting will annihilate bosses quite quickly.

For levelling with mines I'd go something like this to start: www.poeurl.com/bqw3

Follow it up with this: www.poeurl.com/bqw4

And then around about level 50 you'd want a build like this: www.poeurl.com/bqw8

At this point you should be annihilating everything. Do the lab as soon as you feel comfortable.

This is another example of a ziggyd build which I'm not over the moon with, but that's expected. In my ideal build you'd either path like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxe

or you would path something like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxg

The normal and cruel labs are the biggest clearspeed and qol boosting points you can get, so as soon as you feel comfortable, do them. The two nodes you want to get when you ascend are bomb specialist and demolitions specialist. Merciless lab you go for explosives expert, and at uber lab it doesn't really matter what you choose.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 08 2017 03:06 GMT
#25509
On August 08 2017 11:55 bo1b wrote:
This is another example of a ziggyd build which I'm not over the moon with, but that's expected. In my ideal build you'd either path like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxe

or you would path something like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxg

Really like some of the changes here. I especially had my "step by step" I made for myself stopping to take way too many damage clusters which would have been both overkill and really slowed down my progress to the life nodes. Of the two you have here, what are the main differences/advantages? I kind of like the flavor of going left and getting more templar stuff like in the first link, instead of just heading to the Constitution cluster for raw life.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-08 03:22:53
August 08 2017 03:21 GMT
#25510
The second is a bit more tanky at the cost of a bit of damage basically.

Worth noting that I have a non crit build in my head which I think might work even better, but I'll have to play around with it.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 08 2017 03:32 GMT
#25511
On August 08 2017 08:37 sob3k wrote:
Just as a PSA,

PoeApp is drastically outperforming poetrade currently, I don't know if its an API issue or traffic or some design issue, but I've been pitting them against each other for my livesearches, and PoeApp is consistantly 10-30 seconds faster, but with many PoeApp results simply never even appearing on PoeTrade.

Is there a way to change the "whoop" sound? It's this disgusting alarmclock beep by default. ;;
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10882 Posts
August 08 2017 07:02 GMT
#25512
Any ideas for decent crit-ele-mine gear? Found an EX yesterday and traded in random stuff for another 30c... But no clue what legendaries i should be getting that aren't absurdely expensive.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 08 2017 14:03 GMT
#25513
On August 08 2017 11:55 bo1b wrote:
For newer players I'd definitely aim towards health over damage, especially on a build like this as a 4link running glacial cascade, remote mines, minefield and physical to lighting will annihilate bosses quite quickly.

For levelling with mines I'd go something like this to start: www.poeurl.com/bqw3

Follow it up with this: www.poeurl.com/bqw4

And then around about level 50 you'd want a build like this: www.poeurl.com/bqw8

At this point you should be annihilating everything. Do the lab as soon as you feel comfortable.

This is another example of a ziggyd build which I'm not over the moon with, but that's expected. In my ideal build you'd either path like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxe

or you would path something like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxg

The normal and cruel labs are the biggest clearspeed and qol boosting points you can get, so as soon as you feel comfortable, do them. The two nodes you want to get when you ascend are bomb specialist and demolitions specialist. Merciless lab you go for explosives expert, and at uber lab it doesn't really matter what you choose.


I'm playing the GC Mine build as well. I like the changes! I've already adapted Ziggy's build to some degree, but it required some of my free respec points to figure out the error in my ways.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 08 2017 14:21 GMT
#25514
I've tracked down a detonate mine gem and tested it with Cast When Damage Taken, for all the miners out there. It definitely doesn't get a damage penalty and has saved my ass from boxes a couple times. Buying it was a huge pain, though, and it doesn't feel like it adds that much.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-08 14:41:35
August 08 2017 14:35 GMT
#25515
Well, that's not the main use of detonate mine gem anyway. It's to link it with Spell Totem for bosses especially. So that you simply hold down your mine skill without needing to occasionally press detonate. But you probably know that.

Also, for everyone playing with mines, make sure you use always attack in place. It's massive QoL boost with mines, I learned that last league.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 08 2017 14:42 GMT
#25516
I wonder if they are going to nerf self cast DP. PoB one I got still does 1 mil dps to shaper (well with perfect gear but still...)
Damage is so high I don't even need Cloaked in Savagery for that Berserker (although using that is advisable before leveling the build to 50 ex cost or more :D)
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 08 2017 14:45 GMT
#25517
I don't really think so, the AoE is pretty low from what I've seen (similar to Blade Vortex I'd guess?) and there are better single target skills out there.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 08 2017 14:47 GMT
#25518
On August 08 2017 23:45 HolydaKing wrote:
I don't really think so, the AoE is pretty low from what I've seen (similar to Blade Vortex I'd guess?) and there are better single target skills out there.

Better than 1 mil dps to shaper?
Which one?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 08 2017 14:49 GMT
#25519
Any suggestions for jewels for the GC Miner build? I'm still pretty new to the game, but I think I'm going to end up with two gem sockets in my build. I'm leaning towards Clear Mind jewels.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
August 08 2017 15:09 GMT
#25520
On August 08 2017 11:55 bo1b wrote:
For newer players I'd definitely aim towards health over damage, especially on a build like this as a 4link running glacial cascade, remote mines, minefield and physical to lighting will annihilate bosses quite quickly.

For levelling with mines I'd go something like this to start: www.poeurl.com/bqw3

Follow it up with this: www.poeurl.com/bqw4

And then around about level 50 you'd want a build like this: www.poeurl.com/bqw8

At this point you should be annihilating everything. Do the lab as soon as you feel comfortable.

This is another example of a ziggyd build which I'm not over the moon with, but that's expected. In my ideal build you'd either path like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxe

or you would path something like this: www.poeurl.com/bqxg

The normal and cruel labs are the biggest clearspeed and qol boosting points you can get, so as soon as you feel comfortable, do them. The two nodes you want to get when you ascend are bomb specialist and demolitions specialist. Merciless lab you go for explosives expert, and at uber lab it doesn't really matter what you choose.


I'm not sure why you would take the elemental damage nodes over the phys damage nodes at the beginning of the tree. GC is a purely physical skill with elemental conversion.
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