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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 03 2017 23:02 GMT
#23221
I just want to say thanks to the guys in-game (I'm ilovepotatoes) and here who have been patient and answering all my questions.

Just now starting to understand the crafting system, making purchases on poe.trade, and preparing to start mapping. So many thing I'm still so oblivious to, but can't wait to learn it eventually.

Bought a cheap 5-linker just to buff my Ancestral Warchief, and I've noticed a huuuuuuge spike by adding an Added Cold damage gem on it, also the bonus of a ton of freezing procs.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 04 2017 05:03 GMT
#23222
what are the best supporting gems for knitted horror spectres?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 04 2017 07:24 GMT
#23223
On January 04 2017 14:03 Frolossus wrote:
what are the best supporting gems for knitted horror spectres?

Minion Damage, LMP/GMP (preference), PPAD, then its less clear. Added fire, Minion Speed, slower projectiles... kinda up to you
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
January 04 2017 08:09 GMT
#23224
On January 04 2017 16:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 14:03 Frolossus wrote:
what are the best supporting gems for knitted horror spectres?

Minion Damage, LMP/GMP (preference), PPAD, then its less clear. Added fire, Minion Speed, slower projectiles... kinda up to you

Go all in on the physical bleed imo, which I guess woukd mean slower projectile.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 12:13:39
January 04 2017 12:12 GMT
#23225
On January 04 2017 17:09 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 16:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 04 2017 14:03 Frolossus wrote:
what are the best supporting gems for knitted horror spectres?

Minion Damage, LMP/GMP (preference), PPAD, then its less clear. Added fire, Minion Speed, slower projectiles... kinda up to you

Go all in on the physical bleed imo, which I guess woukd mean slower projectile.


I'm not entirely sure on bleed, but if it works like poison or ignite, PPAD doesn't actually double dip, cos Attack mods don't double dip.

Pierce or slower projectiles might be better options(also situationally point blank).
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 04 2017 13:29 GMT
#23226
On January 04 2017 06:32 ASoo wrote:
I am an idiot, and now need to respec from CI to life-based, using a number of Orbs of Regret that makes them worthy of the name.

How are you guys doing?

I recently learned that I grossly underestimated the amount of orbs of fusings needed to make a 6 link. Or 5 link for that matter. managed to downgrade my 5 link to a 4 link.
And ofc damn vorici is only like lvl5 2/3 so I cant shop cheaper fusings from him.

At least I learned something valuable. =D
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 04 2017 15:00 GMT
#23227
On January 04 2017 21:12 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 17:09 vndestiny wrote:
On January 04 2017 16:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 04 2017 14:03 Frolossus wrote:
what are the best supporting gems for knitted horror spectres?

Minion Damage, LMP/GMP (preference), PPAD, then its less clear. Added fire, Minion Speed, slower projectiles... kinda up to you

Go all in on the physical bleed imo, which I guess woukd mean slower projectile.


I'm not entirely sure on bleed, but if it works like poison or ignite, PPAD doesn't actually double dip, cos Attack mods don't double dip.

Pierce or slower projectiles might be better options(also situationally point blank).

You're correct. They all work the same way and are restricted to the exact same pool of inheritable keywords.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 04 2017 16:01 GMT
#23228
On January 04 2017 22:29 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 06:32 ASoo wrote:
I am an idiot, and now need to respec from CI to life-based, using a number of Orbs of Regret that makes them worthy of the name.

How are you guys doing?

I recently learned that I grossly underestimated the amount of orbs of fusings needed to make a 6 link. Or 5 link for that matter. managed to downgrade my 5 link to a 4 link.
And ofc damn vorici is only like lvl5 2/3 so I cant shop cheaper fusings from him.

At least I learned something valuable. =D

Rule is to have duplicate item you try to 6L while you play with your 5L
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 04 2017 16:49 GMT
#23229
Assassin cospris discharge might be the strongest build I've ever played, and I played coc discharge before the coc nerf.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 04 2017 17:31 GMT
#23230
i cant believe that they nerfed mjolnir into the ground but that item exists, lol
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10836 Posts
January 04 2017 17:34 GMT
#23231
How much ho/shield you guys recomment to finnish cruel as bf-cwc-bf shadow?
I'm scared of him (but got a new rig, so at least no more randem 5s freezes )
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 17:47:33
January 04 2017 17:45 GMT
#23232
Hardcore or softcore?

also cwc should let you be a basically ranged build so you shouldn't have too much difficulty as long as you have good sustain or are willing to tp to refill pots when necessary.

ES is probably not worth mentioning unless you somehow have ghost reaver specced because malachai is the kind of fight where you are unlikely to get recharge off. So in terms of raw HP, you'd like to have at least 2.5k imo. obviously cap res.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10836 Posts
January 04 2017 18:35 GMT
#23233
Hc
Range with the less area gem for more deeps is actually pathetic (just got a 4l).
But i guess my bladefalltotem could do enough alone anyway
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 04 2017 18:44 GMT
#23234
I don't think you want to be hitting malachai with your bladeflurry just your bladefall
bladeflurry's range is a bit questionable and thats before you consider conc effect
does bladeflurry let you aim the cwc spell anywhere on the screen? because stuff like wither does and it's very nice.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 19:44:20
January 04 2017 18:50 GMT
#23235
Kinda wanna to do a Vortex CI regen tank like this one. Just wondering if Inquisitor is really the best choice, I think Trickster might be a better choice for more regen/ES? The cast speed shouldn't be of much importance. Though I guess the 60% increased recovery of Trickster might be tough to trigger against the hard bosses. Probably would need worm flask(s) or something. I've never tried Trickster (unlike Inquisitor) so that's part of the reason why I'm interested in changing that build to Trickster.

edit: Hmm, thinking about it, it's probably not better. Pious Path with the cannot be affected by status ailments on consecrated ground sounds pretty good and consecrated ground is much easier to keep up than killing every 4 seconds for bosses that don't spawn adds, especially with Inquisitor.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10836 Posts
January 04 2017 19:04 GMT
#23236
On January 05 2017 03:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't think you want to be hitting malachai with your bladeflurry just your bladefall
bladeflurry's range is a bit questionable and thats before you consider conc effect
does bladeflurry let you aim the cwc spell anywhere on the screen? because stuff like wither does and it's very nice.


Yeah, it does. But if i don't use bladeflurry, why not just use 2 wands and bladefall?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 19:13:44
January 04 2017 19:11 GMT
#23237
because cwc casts faster than 2 wands and has virtually no mana cost with the right skill

realistically bf-cwc-bf is not a very intelligent concept in the first place because there's just no upside. Either you waste a bunch of nodes scaling the attack, or you lose a bunch of damage from attacking instead of using a spell that you are properly scaling, or you waste a bunch of links having cwc bladefall linked to your main damage attack that you scale. Regardless of which it is, there just isn't a way to properly scale and use the attack and the spell at the same time. Plus your weapons are going to be either 0dps weapons or not have spell damage so there's more problems there.

I guess you could make it work with a scourge claw and scaling minion damage? still seems weak compared to making a more focused build
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 22:52:28
January 04 2017 22:50 GMT
#23238
I think the idea is that you poison with both skills but use a low mana Bladeflurry. Both do physical damage and can be supported by same supports. You don't need accuracy because CwC does not care if you hit or not. And you can use Scourge claw that will help with both. I think Mathil played a BF-cwc-Bladefall build.
Although scourge claw would not work because its bonus only works for attacks, not spells.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 04 2017 22:57 GMT
#23239
On January 05 2017 07:50 -Archangel- wrote:
Although scourge claw would not work because its bonus only works for attacks, not spells.

utterly incorrect lol

anyway wither is significantly more dmg than bladeflurry for a build relying on bladefall to poison and do the damage outside of niche scourge build
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 05 2017 01:57 GMT
#23240
On January 05 2017 07:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 07:50 -Archangel- wrote:
Although scourge claw would not work because its bonus only works for attacks, not spells.

utterly incorrect lol

anyway wither is significantly more dmg than bladeflurry for a build relying on bladefall to poison and do the damage outside of niche scourge build

Ok, I might have or might have not misunderstood the part of the description about needing to hit recently as it only working with attacks :D
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