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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 16:06:42
September 02 2016 16:01 GMT
#22021
On September 03 2016 00:27 xM(Z wrote:
Spire of Stone is not even worth having in a RF totem build; why one would ever get it is beyond me.

He's doing melee totems though ? Cant attacks if the totems got stun all the time.

Also what spells are good for lvling nowadays? As bv ranger (which eventually will be CI) I'm not sure how to level at league start without grouping up.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 16:15:21
September 02 2016 16:10 GMT
#22022
melee totems kill things to fast to need defenses but if you were to get some, the totem nodes are just better. you have +% resists, less phys dmg taken and %life(you could even consider swapping some other gem(aoe one perhaps) for the life+res totem support gem on occasions).
also, it takes 1 totem life node to get 10% totem life but 3 points(30 str) to get 9% totem life from that jewel.
in some specific cases, when you already have Xstr around a jewel, you could use it temporary.

if the totem dies you resummon it.

Edit: you can buy blade vortex from the vendor after Merveil; it's op for leveling.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 16:23:00
September 02 2016 16:22 GMT
#22023
before I would say BV is kind of annoying early because of lack of AoE nodes, but with the damage buff it should be great. can have a bladefall swap in if you need more AoE

other options are the usual stuff, firestorm + flame totem, bladefall totem. Bow leveling might be good with the new essences
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 02 2016 16:27 GMT
#22024
I guess we don't know what the encounter rates will look like but it feels like essences will guarantee rare weapons basically continuously for levelling which seems pretty OK. It's like a bunch of free alchs that you shouldn't feel bad spending (~280 t1 essences for a t7 so...)
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 16:28:58
September 02 2016 16:28 GMT
#22025
Fireball with 50% increase damage worthy of attention for lvling now ?
Spire of Stone mainly for stun immunity. Without it elemental bosses like Haast or Dom would take ages since they get stun lock without attacking anything. I usually just slot it in the socket between templar & mara start.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 16:36:14
September 02 2016 16:34 GMT
#22026
well Haast freezes then shatters them .

i find the lack of aoe on BV not a problem early on since mobs don't really have a chance to kill you; i'd ran right through them.

best way to play fireball is as soul gatherer and single target for vaal fireball(which could be the next vaal spark).
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 02 2016 16:41 GMT
#22027
On September 03 2016 01:28 vndestiny wrote:
Fireball with 50% increase damage worthy of attention for lvling now ?
Spire of Stone mainly for stun immunity. Without it elemental bosses like Haast or Dom would take ages since they get stun lock without attacking anything. I usually just slot it in the socket between templar & mara start.

I'm sure the buff mostly happens at high gem levels, i doubt it's terribly good levelling still. Don't let me stop you from trying though XD
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 17:04:54
September 02 2016 17:03 GMT
#22028
On September 03 2016 01:34 xM(Z wrote:
well Haast freezes then shatters them .

i find the lack of aoe on BV not a problem early on since mobs don't really have a chance to kill you; i'd ran right through them.

best way to play fireball is as soul gatherer and single target for vaal fireball(which could be the next vaal spark).

It's not a question of safety, it's that bladefall and flamestorm's much superior AoE, in my opinion, means faster clear and faster exp. BV of course has the edge vs rares/uniques

yeah I'd really want to make a vaal fire baller, but don't really want to make two templars in a league (I'm OCD). it was already strong last league, Zizaran did it with stacking Rolling Flame. With Fireball buff, maybe a 4L fireball will have enough single target for the build to be OK vs bosses

ooo you could use that corrupted essence to give "Socketed gems deal 40% more ele damage". You'd have 6L vaal fireball for super fast clear, pseudo 5L fireball for soul gathering / boss clean up.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 02 2016 17:15 GMT
#22029
On September 03 2016 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 01:28 vndestiny wrote:
Fireball with 50% increase damage worthy of attention for lvling now ?
Spire of Stone mainly for stun immunity. Without it elemental bosses like Haast or Dom would take ages since they get stun lock without attacking anything. I usually just slot it in the socket between templar & mara start.

I'm sure the buff mostly happens at high gem levels, i doubt it's terribly good levelling still. Don't let me stop you from trying though XD


Even if it did enough damage, does it the have the damage projection to compete with other options?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 17:33:53
September 02 2016 17:22 GMT
#22030
ABLE TO PATCH GOGOGOGO.

Also, if you've not seen all the essences: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_essences

Don't forget your loot filter! Neversink's I know has AoW update.

r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 02 2016 17:42 GMT
#22031
On September 02 2016 21:02 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 16:40 r.Evo wrote:
On September 02 2016 16:04 NotSorry wrote:
All hating on west coast you should be ashamed of yourself




So debating on trying out inquisitor firestorm or just going with my comfort pick of phys bow ranger TS til 5l then LA/BR


Sorry. ._.

If you're happy with the ping to Euros we don't mind! - Just in case we need options if e.g. DC goes to shit. Mabye you're like Oversky who gets 350 ping and is like "oh no worries this is fine I had worse"

Just do this bow build, got buffed with Ascendancy since then + new Steel Ring base. Also under the radar a bit and with highly inspirational music.

+ Show Spoiler +
8


Still space in the group? I have London ping

I think we do, was just hesitant to ask you directly since you mentioned the glorious first HC death run. =P



On September 03 2016 01:22 EchelonTee wrote:
before I would say BV is kind of annoying early because of lack of AoE nodes, but with the damage buff it should be great. can have a bladefall swap in if you need more AoE

other options are the usual stuff, firestorm + flame totem, bladefall totem. Bow leveling might be good with the new essences


Imo (maybe you got a better perspective since you actually played it all the way to merci =P) levelling BV as ranger was pretty painful. Witch/Shadow np but Ranger takes SO long for damage nodes and the projection is so ass early on that it felt pretty bad. And Ranger can't even really have a levelling tree with something else either since you're going straight left and towards int areas anyway.

On September 03 2016 01:34 xM(Z wrote:
well Haast freezes then shatters them .

i find the lack of aoe on BV not a problem early on since mobs don't really have a chance to kill you; i'd ran right through them.

best way to play fireball is as soul gatherer and single target for vaal fireball(which could be the next vaal spark).

^

This. I'm definitely buying up shit like rolling flames jewels just to have the option of doing that. Could end up pretty opop.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
September 02 2016 17:45 GMT
#22032
The file structure optimisation so you don't update for forever after finishing downloading on Steam is oh so nice.

Whole update downloaded and installed in less than five minutes.
~
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
September 02 2016 17:51 GMT
#22033
On September 03 2016 02:42 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 21:02 Yuljan wrote:
On September 02 2016 16:40 r.Evo wrote:
On September 02 2016 16:04 NotSorry wrote:
All hating on west coast you should be ashamed of yourself




So debating on trying out inquisitor firestorm or just going with my comfort pick of phys bow ranger TS til 5l then LA/BR


Sorry. ._.

If you're happy with the ping to Euros we don't mind! - Just in case we need options if e.g. DC goes to shit. Mabye you're like Oversky who gets 350 ping and is like "oh no worries this is fine I had worse"

Just do this bow build, got buffed with Ascendancy since then + new Steel Ring base. Also under the radar a bit and with highly inspirational music.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uIf6OjCiIQ
8


Still space in the group? I have London ping

I think we do, was just hesitant to ask you directly since you mentioned the glorious first HC death run. =P



Just a joke I will be active mostly on the weekend though.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 02 2016 17:53 GMT
#22034
announcement - poe.trade will be down for a few hours at the start of the Essence challenge leagues


Well, get fucked anyone who wanted to buy any early item for some reason.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 02 2016 17:55 GMT
#22035
lol

probably hard to set up the exact essence mods for searching

besides the first few hours shouldn't really require too much buying/selling
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
September 02 2016 17:59 GMT
#22036
On September 03 2016 01:10 xM(Z wrote:
melee totems kill things to fast to need defenses but if you were to get some, the totem nodes are just better. you have +% resists, less phys dmg taken and %life(you could even consider swapping some other gem(aoe one perhaps) for the life+res totem support gem on occasions).
also, it takes 1 totem life node to get 10% totem life but 3 points(30 str) to get 9% totem life from that jewel.
in some specific cases, when you already have Xstr around a jewel, you could use it temporary.

if the totem dies you resummon it.

Edit: you can buy blade vortex from the vendor after Merveil; it's op for leveling.



The main reason for spire of stone is the line at the end 'totems cannot be stunned' this can be a real annoyance. The life % is whatever, but it fits nice in the templar start area because it gives a fair amount of it there anyways.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 02 2016 18:02 GMT
#22037
Hmm yeah so.. Better to think about a name for your exiles already I guess. I think I'll just F5 http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/fnames.cgi?d=1&f=0 again until I see something passable. >.<
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 02 2016 18:03 GMT
#22038
VoromnysRheector

Done. That was easy.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 02 2016 18:14 GMT
#22039
Hope the download finishes lol. Was at 92% ~20 mins before, now roughly at 94%. >_>
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
September 02 2016 18:17 GMT
#22040
Went pretty smoothly for me, under 10 mins total.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
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