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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 16 2015 14:14 GMT
#20281
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1514740

odds may not be high, but it's still a chance. pretty neat.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 16 2015 14:21 GMT
#20282
On December 16 2015 23:14 travis wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1514740

odds may not be high, but it's still a chance. pretty neat.

A really low chance. But yeah, cool nonetheless.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 16 2015 14:54 GMT
#20283
Well crashing into waking up in SC while just cruising through content is fun.

Definitely done with the steam client, 2nd time that happened since 2.1, first to Tyrran now me. -.-
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 16 2015 21:10 GMT
#20284
Is ok. I died to being bad. Again. (lvl 58 on cruel daresso).
Turns out not having any sort of defenses in the way of curses/defensive auras/ es,armor,ev stacking/cwdt/enduring cry is a terrible idea :D. Who would of thought O_O
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 16 2015 21:33 GMT
#20285
On December 17 2015 06:10 Kickstart wrote:
Is ok. I died to being bad. Again. (lvl 58 on cruel daresso).
Turns out not having any sort of defenses in the way of curses/defensive auras/ es,armor,ev stacking/cwdt/enduring cry is a terrible idea :D. Who would of thought O_O

Nothing of that on HC? Not bad to make it to 58, did you play totems?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 16 2015 21:59 GMT
#20286
On December 17 2015 06:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 06:10 Kickstart wrote:
Is ok. I died to being bad. Again. (lvl 58 on cruel daresso).
Turns out not having any sort of defenses in the way of curses/defensive auras/ es,armor,ev stacking/cwdt/enduring cry is a terrible idea :D. Who would of thought O_O

Nothing of that on HC? Not bad to make it to 58, did you play totems?

Played bladefall, will roll it again, though with some defense this time ^^. (skill is op)
phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
December 17 2015 22:07 GMT
#20287
I just enter merciless after 5 days.I m really slow how do you progress more effectivelly? Whats the plan do you use orbs?Do you level masters or you go yolo until a certain point?Whats the timeline of progression?For example dont do anything before cruel or level masters only in merciless.
I play really slow but safe i never died before merciless, i m doing the masters quests and try to be resistance capped before dominus and malachai, i used 3 alchemist orbs probably a waste for 40-50 level items isnt it?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 17 2015 22:22 GMT
#20288
On December 18 2015 07:07 phantomlancer23 wrote:
I just enter merciless after 5 days.I m really slow how do you progress more effectivelly? Whats the plan do you use orbs?Do you level masters or you go yolo until a certain point?Whats the timeline of progression?For example dont do anything before cruel or level masters only in merciless.
I play really slow but safe i never died before merciless, i m doing the masters quests and try to be resistance capped before dominus and malachai, i used 3 alchemist orbs probably a waste for 40-50 level items isnt it?

1. You need to know the game if you want to be fast. Like, you can skip a lot of things if you are good. It also helps greatly to use skills that are strong from the get-go. Melee characters in general can take a bit longer to progress easily at some points, if you don't find proper gear.
2. You can use Transmutation Orbs and Augmentation Orbs whenever you want. Alteration Orbs I wouldn't really use, because it's too much of a gamble with usually little reward and they're worth something. Chromatic Orbs can sometimes be useful, but don't waste too many here either. Alchemy Orbs imo can be used a few times while leveling, especially on 4-linked items. Don't do this though if you like to buy items from others (I personally prefer just yolo alching though, I don't really bother with buying items until maps). Don't use the other orbs unless you know what you're doing. Like a really good item you can use jewellers & fusings on.
3. I personally don't bother doing master missions on normal (but on HC I would do them). Haku offers an easy way to upgrade most items cheaply, for example.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 22:42:23
December 17 2015 22:40 GMT
#20289
As Holy said a large part of it is being familiar with the game. Zones usually have similar layouts so being familiar with them lets you get through them quickly. Certain skills are better for leveling at certain periods (most builds don't swap to their intended skill that they use from then on till in the 60s). Recipes help; knowing that you can take a 3l quartz scepter at lvl 15 that has a bvase 20% incr ele damage and then using a transmute to make it magic, then vendoring it, an alt, and a saph/ruby/topaz ring to make it +1 to cold/fire/lightning gems is a good way to speed things up. in the offhand you can vendor another blue quartz scepter and a rare chain belt and a whetstone to give it +20%+ spell damage (for phys you use rare phys dmg belt and a whetstone). Do this and youve given yourself a free +1 to your main gem, 40% more ele damage, and 20+% spell damage.

All those small things add up. But then you just have to know that you can push past zones quickly, you dont need to kill everything in them. Generally, if you run through and just kill any large groups and then any blues or rares you find, you will progress perfectly fine and not be slowed by trying to clear every last mob.
phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
December 17 2015 23:27 GMT
#20290
Thanks for the advices guys its really helpful.As you both said you need to know the game when i m in public party i m always the most undecided in crossroads, i have the worst MS and i m slow to the ventors, i play on HC and the level of players is much more higher than SC.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 18 2015 02:05 GMT
#20291
Should note that for leveling you want to clear fast and not kill everything. In maps you want to kill everything to grow your map pool though. But that is late-game related and not really your question, just thought I would add that in.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 22:27:19
December 18 2015 22:15 GMT
#20292
alright wheres r.evo i need updates on this righteous fire totems build
do 2 totems righteous fires stack?

My math put theoretical top end (with a few exalts of gear and at least level 80) at over 100,000 dps per totem when conc effected. This is before resists and including vulnerability... but still that's pretty sick.

also not factoring searing bond
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 22:33:21
December 18 2015 22:30 GMT
#20293
On December 19 2015 07:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
alright wheres r.evo i need updates on this righteous fire totems build
do 2 totems righteous fires stack?

My math put theoretical top end (with a few exalts of gear and at least level 80) at over 100,000 dps per totem when conc effected. This is before resists and including vulnerability... but still that's pretty sick.

also not factoring searing bond

what's a RF totem build looking like? something like this?

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that said that's too many points, depending on if you play HC or not i'd remove something like the witch aoe nodes or some life nodes (it's totems, so dont need too much life if you're on SC). also could play blood magic node, i personally like it but it has some disadvantages (obviously).

(the above tree is similar to a Searing Bond char that i played for a while (obviously minus the aoe nodes), on which I figured it works quite well with RF totem)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 22:44:38
December 18 2015 22:42 GMT
#20294
You are pretty close. Less points into fire damage because it's additive with increased burning damage. You already get to 250% burning damage (including fire damage), a lot more with a doryani's catalyst.

Probably more sockets because they roll totem life (your best multiplier) AND damage. The build I saw was scion and didn't go into witch. VERY similar otherwise.

Note that unless you have a 6link, purity of fire is pretty required so blood magic sucks. Plus your mana requirements are 0 on account of righteous fire not costing mana so you can reserve whatever you want (purity blasphemy arctic armor works, or purity blasphemy blasphemy since you can get 4% reduced reduction for 2 points etc).
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 18 2015 22:43 GMT
#20295
On December 19 2015 07:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
You are pretty close. Less points into fire damage because it's additive with increased burning damage. You already get to 250% burning damage (including fire damage), a lot more with a doryani's catalyst.

Probably more sockets because they roll totem life (your best multiplier) AND damage. The build I saw was scion and didn't go into witch. VERY similar otherwise.

good point! yeah true, scion is probably a good choice because of that.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 22:48:28
December 18 2015 22:46 GMT
#20296
ps penetration does nothing so the templar funky triangle circle bit isn't good
pps curse effect nodes OWN for this build (the ones by scion). the dual-curse node is decent but your gear requirements are so minimal that i'd be seriously tempted to do curse boots/ring instead.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 18 2015 22:50 GMT
#20297
On December 19 2015 07:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
ps penetration does nothing so the templar funky triangle circle bit isn't good
pps curse effect nodes OWN for this build (the ones by scion). the dual-curse node is decent but your gear requirements are so minimal that i'd be seriously tempted to do curse boots/ring instead.

yeah, well I guess you can optimize a lot... who knows what's really the best. good point about the penetration node, since neither Searing Bond nor RF hit... just the -res curses work.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 19 2015 03:50 GMT
#20298
On December 19 2015 07:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
alright wheres r.evo i need updates on this righteous fire totems build
do 2 totems righteous fires stack?

My math put theoretical top end (with a few exalts of gear and at least level 80) at over 100,000 dps per totem when conc effected. This is before resists and including vulnerability... but still that's pretty sick.

also not factoring searing bond

Call me evo. =P

Two RF totems from one player don't stack. RF/SB does. Two RF/SB from different players do as well nowadays.

More notes, I'm 76 or so now:
  • Totem Placement speed is more valuable than I thought it would be. That and movespeed are my limiting factors for clearspeed atm. This is actually my first build ever that feels like it needs one Adrenaline Quicksilver.
  • AoE is way more valuable than I assumed. Starting Scion and wanting both Templar and Witch nodes asap is not even a question. This also makes Dual Laviangas your best in slot weapon until very, very late.
  • Curses for damage are way less valuable than I assumed. I opted to *not* reserve all my mana (to get Empower over Bloodmagic for Searing Bond) and ran with Blasphemy Temp Chains + AA instead which gives survivability. I self-dual curse on hit Ele Weakness+Flammability instead and have an Enfeeble for bosses just in case. Basically when something comes close one curse gets overwritten by Temp Chains, one step back and the AA chill goes on top. Feels extremely safe, clearspeed is still stronk but (oh noez) I usually have to put down a SB totem for bosses/tanky rares.
  • Conc. You don't want it. Maybe as a swap for immobile bosses but apart from that just nope. SB has almost the same effect and beats swapping gems by a lot imo.

The way I planned my progress:
  • +1 Fire + Laviangas + Flame Totem in the OP talisman (until you get Geoffris helm, 5L chest, AoE Witch Cluster). Run PoF asap.
  • Dual Laviangas, Temp Chains + AA, Ele resist gem in the 5L.
  • Swap a Laviangas for a near perfect crafted Ele Scepter (20 fire implicit, 30 fire affix, 30 dot craft from leo for up to 80 burn damage, the top end of this is 10% behind a low Doryanis and costs a couple chaos)
  • Acquire 5L Cloak of Flame, run PoF+Temp Chains+AA, hopefully have enough Mana for SB/CoH casts.
  • Either get an ammy that converts damage taken into fire and curse ring or +1 curse ammy.

As a final thought it might be that Laviangas beat out both Doryanis and a perfect Ele scepter just because AoE feels that amazing. The curse boots are no option in that case because fuck that movement speed.

This is the tree I'm running with in the end most likely. The jewel socket at Templar needs to be taken early (that's where the unique totem life jewel goes), the Fire+AoE cluster vs dmg cluster on top is still up to debate but I think this is the smarter option. rip 5% AoE. =(

I don't really like the pathing in the bottom left that I take but I didn't find anything smarter if you keep the jewel socket with strength and some efficient life in mind. Going bottom left for Ironwood over Witch would be a huge mistake imo.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 11:38:53
December 19 2015 11:38 GMT
#20299
PSA: I think Plato just chanced the first Skyforth on softcore Talisman
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 19 2015 15:55 GMT
#20300
this guy...... He just found 2 binos...........

He is taking all the guild luck away from me :@!
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