2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 440

On May 15 2012 16:41 haitike wrote:
This is the year Money wins.

City wins the premier, Malaga got to Champions.

On May 15 2012 18:27 Stimp wrote:
People always say Chelsea is just bankrolled by Abramovic, but if you look closely, the amount Abramovic has put into the club is actually less than how much the club has gone up in value in his time here. Good investment. The guy is no mug with his money. No paying a player 250 k a week to not play for 6 months.

On May 15 2012 18:27 Stimp wrote:
People always say Chelsea is just bankrolled by Abramovic, but if you look closely, the amount Abramovic has put into the club is actually less than how much the club has gone up in value in his time here. Good investment. The guy is no mug with his money. No paying a player 250 k a week to not play for 6 months.

On May 15 2012 18:56 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but if you look at the club rich list since it was done in 2007, 2 years after Roman took over us, our Revenue has gone through the roof.
Rich List Since 2007
We have been getting better and better too, thus taken us from a club of medium stature in England, to a top 10 club around the world which can survive without his billions now. He has reformed the club just as any buisnessman would do when taking over a new buisness, he has turned it into a self sufficient club now. But there is personally things he does persue, noteablly the signing of Shevchenko for £30million and the £20million he splashed out on AVB standing out the most, but he has always done it in good intention.
If he were to leave tomorrow Chelsea would be fine to survive as a club with the current squad they have, and to the person or people he would sell it too.
External purchases however we could not do, for example we have got a rich Arab man who is going to give us a large some of the £1billion bill for our new stadium if you read reports in the papers and he will be sponsering that, which is good for the club as it keeps our books balanced. The large sum of 800million he put into the club is based around the revamping of the Chelsea hotel around the ground, the mega training and youth facallities he also funded personally and about 500million on transfers, but don't forget this is all adding up to over 7 years (6 seasons) with over 200million spend in the first 2 with Mourinho in charge.
But i can safetly say again, that if Roman sold up tomorrow to someone like Ken Bates again Chelsea would be fine and still in a great position financially due to all the new fans we have gathered in America and the far east.

On May 15 2012 19:05 kyllinghest wrote:

They've had the highest wagebill in the premier league for so many years in a row now, when you add that no other club has used more money on purchasing players, and that their stadium is at best subpar, I think you will find that Roman isn't making money at all.

On May 15 2012 19:17 kyllinghest wrote:

Roman has no doubt done good things for your club, but still a club spending more than 80% of their turnover on wages is not a club in a healthy condition. Manchester United in comparison spend less than 50% on wages. UEFA guidelines suggests a limit at 70%, though a lower number is highly recommended.

When we are talking about approximately 200m £ annually its quite obvious that this high wage cost is something that will be hard to sustain, especially without Campions League money.

On May 15 2012 19:19 Pandemona wrote:


You base this entire comment on false facts from the local media in England lol. Shame you beleive it really. Chelsea do not have the highest wage bill from players, it has a high wage bill due to having to pay the whole of Roman's entourage in it. If you read my post you would realise if Roman leaves tomorrow Chelsea will be fine to carry on, we have been on the increase in revenue and lowering our deficit each year thanks to our own sponsership deals and money generated from match days and merchandise, this has 0 to do with Roman (minus him getting us to this stage). Chelsea squad only has 5 players over 100,000 a week, two being Lampard and JT which are 140,000 a week and the others being Drogba Torres and Ashley cole, no one else is even near 100,000 a week, for example Ivanovic is on £60,000 a week and he is one of the best defenders in the premier league.

To say Roman is making 0 money at all is irrelevant as no premier league owner of football club owner will make substational gain from the football club. They do it for the perks and the enjoyment and to get the club in certain financial levels so they can support themselves, and not many owners actually put much money into a club. Also if you read Chelsea are finally getting a new stadium planning under way, it is a long long road to go down still as the Chelsea supporters on the pitch, because in the early 90s Chelsea were a very poor team but with a huge fanbase and they all stuck some money in to buy the pitch off the club to raise some cash, since then there has been no mention of moving due to this pitch being owned by Chelsea supporters. CPO (ChelseaPitchOwners)
Hopefully by around 2014 start of the season Chelsea might have a new ground to move into, but thats saying it will all go through by the end of the year which is doubtful because of how long these process' take.

On May 15 2012 19:40 Pandemona wrote:
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2595109,00.html

All you need to know about Chelsea financial records. You can go baco to the 2010 results as well produced on the 31st of Jan to see more records broken. This year as well (according to Buck and Gourlay) say Chelsea will be in an even greater position than we were in the latest reports, showing over 1 season we have slashed our 80million debt down to £67million. That is on top of spending 50miilion for Torres and £20million on Luiz. Pretty good

And Arsenal have won fuck all xD There fans grow more and more impatient as the years go on, not being successful. They have sound financial records considering there STILL paying for there great stadium they bought, but thats about all they can account themselves for they money at the moment, there great stadium. Which i might add is "always" sold out of 60,000 every week when its clearly not. Arsenal make money financially, but they do not invest it anywhere other than recovering costs from personal investment into the Stadium buiding, i dont know ALL the ins and outs of the issue with Arsenal at the moment, but im sure many Arsenal fans on here might get involved with my statement i am making as im pretty sure listening to Talksport in England that there is many back hand dealings in the Arsenal boardroom supposidly? Im not sure. xD

But if you would ask me would i rather Chelsea be like Arsenal, no i would not, id much rather our owner shove money in, and make us balance ourselves out 3-4 season later whilst still winning trophies!

On May 15 2012 19:57 kyllinghest wrote:

Those number no doubt looks good, though I would still like to see their wage bill.

Will be interesting to see wich turn Chelsea will take this summer, I feel like they could use some younger and fresh blood, and this could also likely lead to a lower wage bill.

Good luck in Munich, and please don't just defend all game!