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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:02 Ysellian wrote: Pretty impressive stuff from Wigan! Who would have imagined Wigan climbing out of the bottom against the opposition they had. its very impressive wasting time since the 20th min mark. | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:04 Timurid wrote: its very impressive wasting time since the 20th min mark. lol, tasty tears | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:04 Timurid wrote: its very impressive wasting time since the 20th min mark. And they only got booked for it in the 92nd minute XD But they did more than just time waste though. Organized and very clever on the break. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
yea very salty, I love Wigan, I love Martinez, he used to do analysis for Sky in liga some time ago before he started coaching. And they always provide a story late in the season. They do that escape artist thing better than anyone, its so fun to watch.. The man to man defending was ace, and Arsenal didnt pass quick enough or hit the needle enough, mostly because of Wigan. Alcaraz has been a bungling mistake all season and even he didnt fuck up. I kinda hoped Arsenal would score though, Walcott still doesnt do enough for me, hes close to useless against teams that park the bus, just doesnt have a first touch. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3051 Posts
Overall, disappointing performance from us imo. | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
well done, jermaine jones! (no sarcasm) | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 17 2012 07:02 Sated wrote: It's all down to this archaic 5-3-2/3-5-2 wing-back formation they've been using. It makes it very hard for teams to break them down through the middle (which is what we all know Arsenal love to do) whilst also restricting movement out on the wings. It's not exactly the most attacking formation, but because they have so much pace out wide (both wing-backs, plus Moses seems to play like a trequartista more than a forward and so pops up everywhere) they're able to break incredibly quickly and catch teams by surprise. I've missed this formation. I always used to like it when I was a kid  I havent seen them play much against teams outside the top 4 or 5. But that makes it harder to win games. Not having Nzogbia hurt that quite a bit aswell. Him withMoses wouldve converted some of those draws into wins I feel. With injuries and all hes been a bit of a dud at Villa. They havent really lost that many games compared to the other stragglers. | ||
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
he said its because they normally get gutted at the start of the season and loose their top players so by the time they have rebuilt and got everything down its a bit late.. impressive win.. the time wasting was funny lol | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On April 17 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote: I havent seen them play much against teams outside the top 4 or 5. But that makes it harder to win games. Not having Nzogbia hurt that quite a bit aswell. Him withMoses wouldve converted some of those draws into wins I feel. With injuries and all hes been a bit of a dud at Villa. They havent really lost that many games compared to the other stragglers. Certainly, but Wigan always go into the season after losing their most productive player of the previous season. N'Zogbia, Baines, Valencia (and a few others including Heskey haha) all had good seasons at Wigan but left for bigger clubs in the Premier League. The team can definitely identify and produce quality players, but struggle to hold on to them. | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
On April 17 2012 07:01 Retric wrote: http://youtu.be/NbiyJGkrWF4 well done, jermaine jones! (no sarcasm) Though one has to admit that Großkreutz seems to have learned his lesson (not from Jones, but from Klopp). No shit from him this time, guess he got told pretty badly after his various escapades. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
I dont remember him refusing to shaking hands when they got hammered 8-2 by United. Was he being a bad loser then ? Was Drogba a bad loser when things were "a fucking disgrace" ? No, because things happened that deserved some ire. Doing annoying things like that, instead of getting on with the game I dont see who wouldnt be irked. He doesnt need to work on anything. People are so uppity about this kind of shit. Hes pissed off and reasonably so , its a very human thing, same with the Krul incident really. I'd have been pretty annoyed if the keeper started staring down the ball 5 mins into the second half instead of taking goal kicks. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
The barca game and the wigan game has a million differencies, and like i said it wasn't within space of 2/3 weeks doing the same thing it was a one off. And yes many people get pissed off with these things, but the difference is, when me or you are getting pissed off with whatever work we are doing or anything esle, we are not being paid 100,000 a week or being looked at by 10000000s of people. Kids watch this game as you well know, and the whole fair play aspect of the game which has been bought into action is very strict, to see kids immitate not shaking peoples hand at the end of a game because there pissed off is very bad. And atleast in the Drogba incident he stilled shaked all Barca players hands even if he yelled at the Ref. Thats all im getting at is it does not set a good example, and with the media and the FA England it does get noted and mentioned alot. Like when the FA and Media through the Bridge Terry handshake saga out the window, same with Evra Suarez, it gets blown out of porpotion alot! | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On April 17 2012 15:50 hns wrote: Though one has to admit that Großkreutz seems to have learned his lesson (not from Jones, but from Klopp). No shit from him this time, guess he got told pretty badly after his various escapades. Im sorry I don't follow Dormund much, but is Großkreutz a dirty player? | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 17 2012 17:03 Pandemona wrote: Reason i said it was because he did it more than once recently. What makes it worst was the fact the Kruul incident he was blatently incenting it as they just got the winning goal when it kicked off between those two. He doesn't seem to take it very well when it's being done to him. The barca game and the wigan game has a million differencies, and like i said it wasn't within space of 2/3 weeks doing the same thing it was a one off. And yes many people get pissed off with these things, but the difference is, when me or you are getting pissed off with whatever work we are doing or anything esle, we are not being paid 100,000 a week or being looked at by 10000000s of people. Kids watch this game as you well know, and the whole fair play aspect of the game which has been bought into action is very strict, to see kids immitate not shaking peoples hand at the end of a game because there pissed off is very bad. And atleast in the Drogba incident he stilled shaked all Barca players hands even if he yelled at the Ref. Thats all im getting at is it does not set a good example, and with the media and the FA England it does get noted and mentioned alot. Like when the FA and Media through the Bridge Terry handshake saga out the window, same with Evra Suarez, it gets blown out of porpotion alot! So your saying that kids should learn that when the other team is annoyingly bending the rules and wasting time you should just accept it ? Standing up for your team is ptless, when millions of dollars for your club are on the line? They should learn that we can waste time ingame and play unfairly as possible because no one will say anything (not that Wigan did but they pushed it pretty well to the limite and whose to say kids wont do more). Hes not the one you can accuse of "not playing fair". Thats just a crock of shit. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Just look at the facts from the match: Arsenal 19 Shots Wigan 12 Shots Arsenal 9 Shots on Target Wigan 7 Shots on Target (Ars 10 off target Wigan 5 off target) Arsenal 9 Corners Wigan 4 Corners Arsenal Keeper made 3 saves Wigan keeper 5 saves Arsenal 15 Fouls Wigan 2 fouls Arsenal 2 Yellows Wigan 3 Yellows So a little recap of the game on paper shows a typical Arsenal dominate with the ball but fail to score? And foul alot, probably in frustration. So to back up my theory of a typical player being very "annoyed" at dominating the game against a team they should win, being paid alot of money but RVP refuses to act in fair play and shake the opposition captain's hand as captain? Thats a bit wrong and a bad example. Im a Chelsea fan as you may know from previous posts, and i can say when we have been losing this season (alot i might add >.< and to Arsenal at home 5-3 for christ sake) i have always seen JT shake every players hand before he walks off and all the Chelsea players doing soo too even though they were not happy with anything going on, with the manager and the results of the games. RVP has scored lots of goals and been fantastic this season he has hit a mini dry patch in the last few games but he still is a good player and should bring himself to walk off the pitch shaking the other captains hand atleast even if he is pissed off because of the result. Every player is! | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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