• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:47
CET 19:47
KST 03:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational8SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Starcraft 2 will not be in the Esports World Cup PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1911 users

Europa Universalis 3 - Page 63

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 61 62 63 64 65 101 Next
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 27 2011 02:30 GMT
#1241
On October 27 2011 10:55 beef42 wrote:
'cuz rebels always have the western tech group? Seriously whomever at Paradox decided that must be the biggest troll ever.


tech group only affects tech, at the start of the game eastern tech group is the strongest as it has better cav.

the reason he is getting stomped is probably due to quality vs quantity, if he is nearly maxed quantity then he needs to more than double his enemies numbers. i have no idea what the slider choices of rebels are though ;/
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11721 Posts
October 27 2011 03:10 GMT
#1242
On October 27 2011 11:30 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 10:55 beef42 wrote:
'cuz rebels always have the western tech group? Seriously whomever at Paradox decided that must be the biggest troll ever.


tech group only affects tech, at the start of the game eastern tech group is the strongest as it has better cav.

the reason he is getting stomped is probably due to quality vs quantity, if he is nearly maxed quantity then he needs to more than double his enemies numbers. i have no idea what the slider choices of rebels are though ;/


Hm. Tech Group also determines which units you get, but i don't know exactly what the rebels get. Even if it is different, that should only be a problem pretty late, since the beginning units are pretty much equal across the board, only later do the western tech nations get much better armies. Also, i found that land tech 2 makes your armies ridiculously more powerful as an african tribal thingy. Basically, without it, you get slaughtered by rebels even if you outnumber them 2:1, with tech 2 you can usually fight on even footage.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 27 2011 03:59 GMT
#1243
On October 27 2011 10:55 beef42 wrote:
'cuz rebels always have the western tech group? Seriously whomever at Paradox decided that must be the biggest troll ever.

rebels have the tech group of whatever they were before you beat them up

that's why when you conquer the aztecs it's so damn easily to put down their rebellions
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
JoFritzMD
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia163 Posts
October 27 2011 09:05 GMT
#1244
I've never played with any mods. Do they make the game any better? Also what differences does the D&T mod add? From the looks of some of the posts it's fairly significant.
"Guess what. All my strategies are made of balls." - Tasteless
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 09:28:09
October 27 2011 09:25 GMT
#1245
On October 27 2011 18:05 JoFritzMD wrote:
I've never played with any mods. Do they make the game any better? Also what differences does the D&T mod add? From the looks of some of the posts it's fairly significant.


Off the top of my head...

The ideas and sliders have different (stronger) effects.
The world 1399 onwards is arranged a bit different than in vanilla. Different (prettier) map.
More decisions for nations (countryspecific buffs, new country formations, etc)
More modifiers for advisors
Couple of "fun" events
Event to rename provinces

However the best thing about this mod as opposed to the others, IMHO, is that it's still
mostly the EU3:DW you know. It also runs fast since it doesn't have a million weird scripts like MMU or MEIOU.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 27 2011 10:48 GMT
#1246
more historical starts, a lot of provinces have been altered buffing and nerfing countries aswell

cant think of any more changes off the top of my head
JoFritzMD
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia163 Posts
October 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#1247
Does it run with DW?

Also why are Burgundy such dicks. Playing as Holland and they keep wanting to declare war on my vassal. No matter what I do in terms of relations with them they keep on declaring war on them. Is there any way to stop this. I'm kinda defeating them by not engaging their stacks until they've failed a castle assault while my vassals and allies lay siege to their land but Bohemia decided instead of supporting their HRE brethren they wanted to support Burgundy -_- so now I'm just waiting for their troops to join the battle ><
"Guess what. All my strategies are made of balls." - Tasteless
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
October 27 2011 11:23 GMT
#1248
Yes, Death and Taxes runs with the newest version of DW (5.1).

As for Burgundy, I haven't tried Holland, but I would say that you should get an Alliance with France or England :p
"Yeah buddy"
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10836 Posts
October 27 2011 11:32 GMT
#1249
My Holland experiences:

Allying France = Impossible.
Allying Burgundy = Impossible.
Allying England = Possible but they go to war with France, you don't want war with France.

The problems i had:
Scenario 1:
Burgundy is an asshat and declares war... This is manageable but annoying.
Scenario 2:
Burgundi gets owned by France and France is an asshat and declares war... Have fun giving them provinces/vassals because you just can't beat them.

Playing Holland seemed stupid to me... When France/Burgundy did not take off "big" you got a really nice time up there. If one of the two gets serious youre pretty much fucked. (?).
JoFritzMD
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia163 Posts
October 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#1250
On October 27 2011 20:32 Velr wrote:
My Holland experiences:

Allying France = Impossible.
Allying Burgundy = Impossible.
Allying England = Possible but they go to war with France, you don't want war with France.

The problems i had:
Scenario 1:
Burgundy is an asshat and declares war... This is manageable but annoying.
Scenario 2:
Burgundi gets owned by France and France is an asshat and declares war... Have fun giving them provinces/vassals because you just can't beat them.

Playing Holland seemed stupid to me... When France/Burgundy did not take off "big" you got a really nice time up there. If one of the two gets serious youre pretty much fucked. (?).



This is pretty much exactly my situation. I want to ally france but I can't, I want to ally burgundy but I can't. The one time I allied with england england dragged me into some war vs sweden/denmark/norway/scotland that I could not help them with because all I did was get blockaded by a huge fleet and I couldn't get military access on any of my neighbours so I got screwed over that way. Oh yeah, Burgundy also declares war on England.

I'm kind of winning the war against Burgundy but I can't see it ending well. The only thing keeping me in the war is that Burgundy can't be bothered to leave their doomstack on a province until they've won the province (by doomstack i mean 14 stack lol but I can't get a large enough army to beat it cause of manpower). They just keep leaving a one stack army behind and I kill it then run away before the big army can attack me.

So I'm not sure what my options are. I've managed to colonise the azores and i've almost colonized the canaries (I can't remember why i'm colonizing that, might be because of a mission or something).
"Guess what. All my strategies are made of balls." - Tasteless
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10836 Posts
October 27 2011 12:12 GMT
#1251
I "fled" europe via North America .

After playing several countries with the intend to colonise the world and/or expand to the east in general i would say Naples is great fun.
Everything is "near" you, you can become a major european power, a colonising power or just rule over africa/arabia (or all of it).
Your also not surrounded by anyone much stronger than you so you probably won't die due to bad luck but still can't be overly aggresive.

Hm.. I really like playing as Naples ^^. Atm I have a game as Naples:
I got ~3-4 extra provinces in Italy.
I got tons of colonies in Africa.
I got plenty of colonies in SA (growing these atm).
Byzantium is my vassal (with like 9 provinces making it the dominant force on the other side of the Adria ^^).
Tuscany and other Italian countries are my Vassal shield to the north....

It's just nice.. I can go wherever I want.. Everything is right next door .
MrExp
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden9 Posts
October 27 2011 12:49 GMT
#1252
A tip for anyone who hasn't tried it yet. Playing a game as Ireland I moved my capital to america and my income went boom! The production and trade income is so nice. Also really helps while spreading your colonial empire making even a minor nation into a empire to be feared.

Now all I have to do is kick whoever is left out and I'll have my Irish-America.

Might be an option for those struggling with Holland. Not sure how fast the problems start with France/Burgundy.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10836 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 14:33:41
October 27 2011 14:32 GMT
#1253
My record for this problems to start was 1401 or something .

Basically.. Start game.. Move sliders... "Burgundi has declared war" :D.
dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
October 27 2011 14:45 GMT
#1254
What does the Lucky Nations option do when you're setting up your game, exactly?
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
October 27 2011 15:04 GMT
#1255
On October 27 2011 23:45 dranko wrote:
What does the Lucky Nations option do when you're setting up your game, exactly?

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Luck

Basically it makes the big nations like, Castille, England, France etc.. more powerfull and should be turned off!
"Yeah buddy"
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 15:12:13
October 27 2011 15:10 GMT
#1256
as holland, ally with austria and bohemia first day before the game even starts, they should both accept. the reason you cant diplo peace with burgundy is because they get missions to attack you.

you could also ally spain, they are less likely to accept though, but austria probably will, same culture group, within hre etc.

then you shouldnt get attacked as much and if you do, you have the emperor defending you,

On October 27 2011 21:12 Velr wrote:
I "fled" europe via North America .

After playing several countries with the intend to colonise the world and/or expand to the east in general i would say Naples is great fun.
Everything is "near" you, you can become a major european power, a colonising power or just rule over africa/arabia (or all of it).
Your also not surrounded by anyone much stronger than you so you probably won't die due to bad luck but still can't be overly aggresive.

Hm.. I really like playing as Naples ^^. Atm I have a game as Naples:
I got ~3-4 extra provinces in Italy.
I got tons of colonies in Africa.
I got plenty of colonies in SA (growing these atm).
Byzantium is my vassal (with like 9 provinces making it the dominant force on the other side of the Adria ^^).
Tuscany and other Italian countries are my Vassal shield to the north....

It's just nice.. I can go wherever I want.. Everything is right next door .


until france gets italian ambition and then you instantly die? : D
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 15:22:20
October 27 2011 15:21 GMT
#1257
so I installed the D&T mod and started a game as Uesugi in Japan. First 100 years I was busy unifying Japan. THen I instantly made a royal marriage with Ming and now I have a Uesugi Emperor in China and Japan and when I want I can go and try to make a personal union with Ming :D

Japan is seriously OP after you unified it. The D&T mod changes a lot of trade goods when you unify making your income go up insanely hard.

What surprised me though is seeing "The Spanish Kalifate"

how does that happen?
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 15:36:23
October 27 2011 15:35 GMT
#1258
God, I'm getting mixed emotions right now.

As Poland, whether or not to Integrate Lithuania. On the plus side, I get a bunch of territories that will save me a lot of time in the future and when they are cored, will give me some nice income. On the flip side, with them as my Peronal Union minor I get an extra ~40 troops that will always help me in wars, and that is just undeniably great. However, I've already destroyed Hungary, annex Bohemia, and Austria is in shambles. So there's really nothing left to face me other than the Golden Horde.

Should be noted I don't plan on moving West. I want to do something rather humorous in the sense of me conquering the entire Middle Eastern/Indian area. Should I keep the PU up long enough to out tech and destroy the Golden Horde in a few decades, and take the risk of the PU being naturally broken or something causing us to be split and me losing the land entirely?

Bah.

Playing on Very Hard right now with High Aggression, no Lucky Nations by the way.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 27 2011 16:15 GMT
#1259
I'd say integrate Lithuania. You are allready big enough so that you should really have a problem with the Horde anymore
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 27 2011 16:55 GMT
#1260
On October 28 2011 00:35 Candadar wrote:
God, I'm getting mixed emotions right now.

As Poland, whether or not to Integrate Lithuania. On the plus side, I get a bunch of territories that will save me a lot of time in the future and when they are cored, will give me some nice income. On the flip side, with them as my Peronal Union minor I get an extra ~40 troops that will always help me in wars, and that is just undeniably great. However, I've already destroyed Hungary, annex Bohemia, and Austria is in shambles. So there's really nothing left to face me other than the Golden Horde.

Should be noted I don't plan on moving West. I want to do something rather humorous in the sense of me conquering the entire Middle Eastern/Indian area. Should I keep the PU up long enough to out tech and destroy the Golden Horde in a few decades, and take the risk of the PU being naturally broken or something causing us to be split and me losing the land entirely?

Bah.

Playing on Very Hard right now with High Aggression, no Lucky Nations by the way.

You don't get the cores when you inherit anyways, so integrating should be fine. I plan to integrate France when I get the chance because I'm sick of their diplomatic insult spam.

And for those of you waiting for an AAR update, I'm working on it.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Prev 1 61 62 63 64 65 101 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 190
ProTech148
UpATreeSC 130
BRAT_OK 89
SC2Nice 38
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2458
Dewaltoss 152
actioN 131
EffOrt 77
Mini 66
Rock 50
Sexy 32
Dota 2
qojqva3079
Dendi689
420jenkins348
League of Legends
C9.Mang095
Counter-Strike
fl0m5068
byalli1091
Other Games
Grubby3639
FrodaN1828
ceh9589
Beastyqt560
allub334
DeMusliM326
B2W.Neo270
Fuzer 176
Liquid`Hasu163
ArmadaUGS147
Harstem127
Livibee98
QueenE78
Mew2King27
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 22
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 51
• HeavenSC 35
• Kozan
• Laughngamez YouTube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3451
League of Legends
• TFBlade1100
Other Games
• imaqtpie1232
• Shiphtur203
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
16h 13m
ByuN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Rogue
OSC
16h 13m
RongYI Cup
1d 16h
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
1d 22h
Serral vs TBD
RongYI Cup
2 days
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
RongYI Cup
3 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
OSC
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.