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fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
August 05 2011 00:55 GMT
#641
On August 05 2011 06:44 exia33 wrote:
Just bought it on steam for £5 after reading the first few posts on this thread. Excited at the prospect of playing it! Hopefully can play my home countries of Scotland and China(Hong Kong) :D Japan n Korea would be cool too!
Dl at 60%!


no hong kong region in this game unfortunately wasn't relevant in history until after the time period of this game (ends 1821)... though macau is in there - but you'll have to play as Ming or Qing, or hope the southern rebel group (Wu) pops up in some games. Of course Scotland, Japan (ununified) and Korea are all in there.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 05 2011 05:47 GMT
#642
Has anyone ever made the EU? I always get like 2 provinces away from it everytime. = / Tried with Naples, Castille, France, England, Sweden, and Germany.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 07:43:36
August 05 2011 07:43 GMT
#643
On August 05 2011 14:47 Corrik wrote:
Has anyone ever made the EU? I always get like 2 provinces away from it everytime. = / Tried with Naples, Castille, France, England, Sweden, and Germany.


Pretty sure this covers the whole EU (and some more), as posted a few posts ago:


On August 05 2011 07:32 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 20:05 Ramong wrote:
IF you want to take the continent, then you need to have a good start with France OR as Austria as the emperor

I am sure that some über skilled EU3 player can win with smaller nations, but most can't!


[image loading]

The first 3 years is the only hard part, to be honest. You just need to take a shit ton of loans, a shit ton of Mercenaries, and really good micro against the Spaniards taking out their building units until Morocco/Algiers decides to help, and you just get 100% war score on Castille, take their territory and fuck their treaties/cores up and whatnot, and you're good to go.

No cheats used. Being muslim = free CB on EVERYONE and 1 infamy per territory.

Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 05 2011 09:04 GMT
#644
It does, but I'm not sure if Granada is actually allowed to form it.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
August 05 2011 09:17 GMT
#645
How and where can i check my current level of war exhaustion and its effects?
Pathetic Greta hater.
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
August 05 2011 09:23 GMT
#646
On August 05 2011 18:17 Silvanel wrote:
How and where can i check my current level of war exhaustion and its effects?


Army tab, Current/Max. Hover to see the negative effects.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#647
On August 05 2011 14:47 Corrik wrote:
Has anyone ever made the EU? I always get like 2 provinces away from it everytime. = / Tried with Naples, Castille, France, England, Sweden, and Germany.

Don't think you can form EU :p
you might mean Holy Roman Empire ?
"Yeah buddy"
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 05 2011 10:43 GMT
#648
forming the empire is pretty easy with austria or maybe even Bohemia
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
August 05 2011 12:13 GMT
#649
What are the negative effects of having an army larger than the support limit? I've often had missions come up where I have to have a bigger army than another country, but in order to do that I had to go past the support limit so I simply cancelled such missions.

Hovering over the support limit in the Military tab simply says there is a penalty if I go over the limit... but it doesnt say what exactly. Higher maintenance cost? More war exhaustion?
King takes Queen
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 05 2011 12:29 GMT
#650
On August 05 2011 21:13 e4e5nf3 wrote:
What are the negative effects of having an army larger than the support limit? I've often had missions come up where I have to have a bigger army than another country, but in order to do that I had to go past the support limit so I simply cancelled such missions.

Hovering over the support limit in the Military tab simply says there is a penalty if I go over the limit... but it doesnt say what exactly. Higher maintenance cost? More war exhaustion?


higher maintenance cost
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 13:56:25
August 05 2011 13:52 GMT
#651
On August 05 2011 21:13 e4e5nf3 wrote:
What are the negative effects of having an army larger than the support limit? I've often had missions come up where I have to have a bigger army than another country, but in order to do that I had to go past the support limit so I simply cancelled such missions.

Hovering over the support limit in the Military tab simply says there is a penalty if I go over the limit... but it doesnt say what exactly. Higher maintenance cost? More war exhaustion?


Hover over the maintenance bar (the one where you set how much money you spare on army) and it should say how much more you are paying for exceeding your support limit.

And I believe someone said this already but try hovering over anything in the game since it's self explanatory most of the time.

Also if you want to spare some money and set your maintenance low not only your morale gets lower but also the rate at which your armies replenish troops. (you can check this by hovering over that percentage value when you select an army [it should be lit in green when you're not taking attrition]).
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
Szordrin
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland151 Posts
August 05 2011 14:39 GMT
#652
I went for Europe with Burgundy. Vassalizing all the voting states and went to some wars until i got hre, went for some papal influence ideas combined with mass culture for negative infamy, then cabinet ofc., resulting in around -3 infmay per year (-0.8 from cardinals, -0.9 from my guys, - 0.5 from king, -1.0 from cabinet). Around 1580 or so i got the imperialism idea and just take over everything step by step.
England collapsed into different nations early, russia never formed, scandinavia and castille do exist thought, but never were a real challenge.

My issue with the game is, that it gets a bit too easy after some time, you can get a hard start, but as soon as you get some provinces together its not a real challenge anymore. the hardest i had so far was with najidz (arabia) vs the mameluks and right after vs the ottomans, additionaly europeans started to hate me... but as soon as u r able to westernise u r fine.

fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
August 05 2011 14:48 GMT
#653
On August 05 2011 23:39 Szordrin wrote:
I went for Europe with Burgundy. Vassalizing all the voting states and went to some wars until i got hre, went for some papal influence ideas combined with mass culture for negative infamy, then cabinet ofc., resulting in around -3 infmay per year (-0.8 from cardinals, -0.9 from my guys, - 0.5 from king, -1.0 from cabinet). Around 1580 or so i got the imperialism idea and just take over everything step by step.
England collapsed into different nations early, russia never formed, scandinavia and castille do exist thought, but never were a real challenge.

My issue with the game is, that it gets a bit too easy after some time, you can get a hard start, but as soon as you get some provinces together its not a real challenge anymore. the hardest i had so far was with najidz (arabia) vs the mameluks and right after vs the ottomans, additionaly europeans started to hate me... but as soon as u r able to westernise u r fine.



if you play any non-latin/eastern eu factions, once you can survive til westernization you're pretty much set. but it's really only the surviving to that point that's hard (assuming you're playing with a smaller faction).
Pieismyign
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States176 Posts
August 05 2011 14:50 GMT
#654
I tried playing as the byzantines but my prestige drops crazy. I'd get -100 even during peacetimes....and plus i get raped by the ottomans because the timurids sucks... or the mamluks.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
August 05 2011 14:55 GMT
#655
On August 05 2011 21:13 e4e5nf3 wrote:
What are the negative effects of having an army larger than the support limit? I've often had missions come up where I have to have a bigger army than another country, but in order to do that I had to go past the support limit so I simply cancelled such missions.

Hovering over the support limit in the Military tab simply says there is a penalty if I go over the limit... but it doesnt say what exactly. Higher maintenance cost? More war exhaustion?

Higher Maintenance AND much higher building cost... didn't notice I had low Sea Force Limit... suddenly had qued 6 carracks costing 120 ducats each... ruined my treasury :'(
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
August 05 2011 15:08 GMT
#656
On August 05 2011 23:50 Pieismyign wrote:
I tried playing as the byzantines but my prestige drops crazy. I'd get -100 even during peacetimes....and plus i get raped by the ottomans because the timurids sucks... or the mamluks.

Never played byzantines but -100 sounds pretty drastic, you havn't lost any wars or something?

Prestige always goes down at a steady rate during peace times unless you have positive modifiers to keep it up. Uncontested provinces (provinces you have cored but do not own) makes your prestige fall even faster, especially if you have a lot of them.
Pieismyign
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States176 Posts
August 05 2011 15:19 GMT
#657
On August 06 2011 00:08 Casta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:50 Pieismyign wrote:
I tried playing as the byzantines but my prestige drops crazy. I'd get -100 even during peacetimes....and plus i get raped by the ottomans because the timurids sucks... or the mamluks.

Never played byzantines but -100 sounds pretty drastic, you havn't lost any wars or something?

Prestige always goes down at a steady rate during peace times unless you have positive modifiers to keep it up. Uncontested provinces (provinces you have cored but do not own) makes your prestige fall even faster, especially if you have a lot of them.


yah, uncontested claims really hurts me...
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 05 2011 15:23 GMT
#658
On August 06 2011 00:08 Casta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:50 Pieismyign wrote:
I tried playing as the byzantines but my prestige drops crazy. I'd get -100 even during peacetimes....and plus i get raped by the ottomans because the timurids sucks... or the mamluks.

Never played byzantines but -100 sounds pretty drastic, you havn't lost any wars or something?

Prestige always goes down at a steady rate during peace times unless you have positive modifiers to keep it up. Uncontested provinces (provinces you have cored but do not own) makes your prestige fall even faster, especially if you have a lot of them.


Byzantine has like 10 or more uncontested territories so it is normal that they get low prestige
Szordrin
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland151 Posts
August 05 2011 17:23 GMT
#659
Can't you revoke cores? Go for a war against a small power which won't kill you, let them get a province or so and revoke cores. should work afaik, then you start to roll up ottomans step by step, but I admit, they are probably one of the hardest starts. One move could be the navy, blocking the path over the bosporus and then bandwagon when they are in a major war.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#660
On August 06 2011 02:23 Szordrin wrote:
Can't you revoke cores? Go for a war against a small power which won't kill you, let them get a province or so and revoke cores. should work afaik, then you start to roll up ottomans step by step, but I admit, they are probably one of the hardest starts. One move could be the navy, blocking the path over the bosporus and then bandwagon when they are in a major war.

Only way to revoke a core that I know of is the Cultural Unity province decision.
AI can and will sometimes use this.

But it seems like a long stretch
"Yeah buddy"
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