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On July 04 2011 05:50 BeigeVolvo wrote:
I started playing this game as the smaller countries, and I would actually recommend it to other beginners. It gives you a special appreciation for the intricacies of the game and how all of a sudden you can be reduced to a pile of rubble with some bad luck or bad decisions. On the other hand, it teaches you to use every little trick in order to expand or merely survive.
There are also some quite challenging achievements with the newest expansion, which set the stage for some of the best game experiences I've had with this game. I've been playing EU3 for something like 3 or 4 years now, and I still find it to be one of the most enjoyable games I play.
That's good if you got the basics down. It's much better to start with Castille to get the basics of the Stability system, Ducats, Prestige and Infamy with a country like that. Once you can handle that, go for a smaller country like Portugal or Denmark or something.
If by small you mean Byzatine Empire or Cologne or something, that's just pants on head retarded
On July 04 2011 05:53 Euronyme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 05:30 True_Spike wrote:
Btw guys, playing with Poland is lots of fun once you install all the expansions. It's never boring, since you start off already in a war with the Golden Horde, without sea access and teutons to the north. It's not very hard to do if you know what you are doing, but is great for beginners (who played for a bit and understand the game flow and mechanics). I think everyone play as their own country, and if their country isn't in it, such as Germany as I understand it, they go for their area. I'ma buy this game and pwn the shit with Sweden XD Thanks guys! Got me pumped up! Any advice for a first time player? Edit: I'm pretty fucking retarded as well. Took me a week to understand what civilization was about I think.
You can form Germany and whatnot. Have fun with Sweden, it's hard as balls.
Don't play the tutorial though, it fucking sucks and doesn't help at all. Read the wiki and watch someone play it or something, it's far more helpful.
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I had to ban myself from this game. I am a history major who is obsessed with maps (especially ancient). This game was killing me. I played all night without sleeping and couldn't stop myself. I mean to someone with my interests, this game is crack.
The whole concept of building an empire, spreading your nation, altering history... is too attractive for me. I had fun too much fun expanding Poland beyond its peak borders, attempting to have the Ottoman Empire conquer Europe, etc. Every little province I got made me so happy as it spread my glory further.
So this isn't a warning to anyone, since few are as ancient map obsessed as me. But just a little story. The game moves at a snail's pace, which is why it was so easy to play 10+ hours a day.
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On July 04 2011 05:59 Crisium wrote:
I had to ban myself from this game. I am a history major who is obsessed with maps (especially ancient). This game was killing me. I played all night without sleeping and couldn't stop myself. I mean to someone with my interests, this game is crack.
The whole concept of building an empire, spreading your nation, altering history... is too attractive for me. I had fun too much fun expanding Poland beyond its peak borders, attempting to have the Ottoman Empire conquer Europe, etc. Every little province I got made me so happy as it spread my glory further.
So this isn't a warning to anyone, since few are as ancient map obsessed as me. But just a little story. The game moves at a snail's pace, which is why it was so easy to play 10+ hours a day.
This is a pretty accurate representation of EU3 late game, I'd say. Pretty accurate mapping.
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1383/1309705953151.jpg) The Poland bit just made me die.
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I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it.
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On July 04 2011 08:59 Yuljan wrote:
I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it.
Catholicism is easy, try converting everyone to Orthodox. That's when it gets fun.
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Just yesterday i was complaining about the lack of good games from this genre. You are the best man on the hole planet for posting this at TL. Now i have found another game that i can enjoy for hours and days ♥
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Russian Federation124 Posts
perfect timing i was just about to dl this game to give it a try :s
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On July 04 2011 09:10 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 08:59 Yuljan wrote:
I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it. Catholicism is easy, try converting everyone to Orthodox. That's when it gets fun.
orthodox is easy. Just take novogrod or moscow both start insanely strong. Maybe hinduism or if I am suicidal shinto. On the paradox forums was a guy who converted the whole world to paganism if I recall correctly. I dont like the changes in divine wind for horde countries. Golden horde was fun but now I cant seem to win with it because of constant warfare. The countries that always have fun games and somewhat challenging games for me are: Byzantinum, Sweden, Scotland, Morocco and some german minors. Indian countries are good too. A lot of action.
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Animalism WC is what the cool kids do.
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On July 04 2011 09:33 Yuljan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 09:10 Fruscainte wrote:On July 04 2011 08:59 Yuljan wrote:
I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it. Catholicism is easy, try converting everyone to Orthodox. That's when it gets fun. orthodox is easy. Just take novogrod or moscow both start insanely strong.
That's for baby men.
![[image loading]](http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8553/1309739339134.jpg)
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United States7226 Posts
I've played Victoria I and II and Hearts of Iron II. How does this game differ from those (I enjoyed Vicky more than HoI). I was always curious but never ended up getting this one.
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On July 04 2011 09:45 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 09:33 Yuljan wrote:On July 04 2011 09:10 Fruscainte wrote:On July 04 2011 08:59 Yuljan wrote:
I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it. Catholicism is easy, try converting everyone to Orthodox. That's when it gets fun. orthodox is easy. Just take novogrod or moscow both start insanely strong. That's for baby men.
Byzantium is easy too once you figure out how to block the ottoman army with your ships. After that a walk in the park 
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On July 04 2011 09:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I've played Victoria I and II and Hearts of Iron II. How does this game differ from those (I enjoyed Vicky more than HoI). I was always curious but never ended up getting this one.
It's a much less stupid version of the two. And by that I mean it does away with all the tedious bullshit and arbitrary restrictions and whatnot. It's also the easiest by far of all the series, arguably. But that doesn't really take away from it at all.
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United States7226 Posts
Well I've always enjoyed the paradox games, and 20 bucks seems like a steal if it comes with all of the expansions (I know this game has many, don't know exactly how many though).
I've definitely wasted dozens of hours on HoI:2 and hundreds on Vicky1&2.
Getting it right now =O!
If the multiplayer isn't buggy (I know it usually is with the PI games), we should definitely have TL multiplayer games every week or something.
I played a few multiplayer games in Victoria and the whole roleplaying diplomacy/politics aspect of it with other humans was amazing (although it was slow as fuck =/). I'll be at singleplayer for a while though before I consider multiplayer.
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Dude I was just playing a match of this game in Divine Wind with my brother today. Such a fantastic game, even 4 years after it has come out, I still buy dlc for it as well as play it from time to time. Probably gonna check out mods soon.
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On July 04 2011 10:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Well I've always enjoyed the paradox games, and 20 bucks seems like a steal if it comes with all of the expansions (I know this game has many, don't know exactly how many though).
I've definitely wasted dozens of hours on HoI:2 and hundreds on Vicky1&2.
Getting it right now =O!
If the multiplayer isn't buggy (I know it usually is with the PI games), we should definitely have TL multiplayer games every week or something.
I played a few multiplayer games in Victoria and the whole roleplaying diplomacy/politics aspect of it with other humans was amazing (although it was slow as fuck =/). I'll be at singleplayer for a while though before I consider multiplayer.
Succession game that we tradeoff every 10 years?
Aw yeah.
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What's the major update to the latest version (divine wind). Is there any severe game play changes that makes the UI less challenging, or is it fine just playing on Heir to the throne or so?
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I'm watching it on Steam and I can't find "Chronicles", nor the item as on sale... ofcourse I might be a day to late but I still want to buy it.
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On July 04 2011 10:35 Euronyme wrote:
What's the major update to the latest version (divine wind). Is there any severe game play changes that makes the UI less challenging, or is it fine just playing on Heir to the throne or so?
DW is arguably better. Most agree that it is, though. Here is a list of shit it added:
* Play as one of four major daimyos in Japan vying for influence over the Emperor and control over the Shogunate
* Expanded gameplay for horde-type countries with, among other things, the default diplomatic state being war with everybody except tributaries.
* Enhanced diplomacy with more options for alliances and peace negotiations
* Dozens of new culture-specific building types allowing greater control over the development of provinces
* Better graphics and Names-on-map in political map mode
* More realistic development of trade
* Manage the internal factions within China to keep the Mandate of Heaven
* Over 50 Achievements for players to unlock
* Multiplayer for up to 32 players
* New features for vassal countries
I played both, I can't play without Divine Wind personally.
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On July 04 2011 10:41 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 10:35 Euronyme wrote:
What's the major update to the latest version (divine wind). Is there any severe game play changes that makes the UI less challenging, or is it fine just playing on Heir to the throne or so? DW is arguably better. Most agree that it is, though. Here is a list of shit it added: Show nested quote +
* Play as one of four major daimyos in Japan vying for influence over the Emperor and control over the Shogunate
* Expanded gameplay for horde-type countries with, among other things, the default diplomatic state being war with everybody except tributaries.
* Enhanced diplomacy with more options for alliances and peace negotiations
* Dozens of new culture-specific building types allowing greater control over the development of provinces
* Better graphics and Names-on-map in political map mode
* More realistic development of trade
* Manage the internal factions within China to keep the Mandate of Heaven
* Over 50 Achievements for players to unlock
* Multiplayer for up to 32 players
* New features for vassal countries
I played both, I can't play without Divine Wind personally.
Yeah I read through the list, but the changes seemed fairly minor.
I'm still trying to understand how you actually get your nation successful, how that one pirateship just sunk my two page long list of ships, how come I can't coloniza Cuba in the tutorial etc etc, so I'm basically dumb as shit when it comes to this game though.
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