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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:36 Simberto wrote: Ok, Transsylvania has the most retarded start in the game. You are a vassal, and the golden horde never accepts any form of tribute. You sliders suck major balls too, you can't even trade at all. So basically, you need to first get rid of the vassalisation by hungary without them slaughtering you, THEN you need to somehow convince the GH to accept tribute instead of just eating you, and if you have somehow managed to do that, you can start actually doing stuff. oh hey, pskov here, the russian opm that teutonic order always gets a free conquest belli on | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 07 2013 09:51 Madkipz wrote: I have been trying to play as Transylvania because of Dracula, but it is very hard to get beyond a 4 state province after absorbing Wallachia through puppeteering into a demanded annexation just outright annexing them. I once managed to make puppets out of both Naples, Sicilily and gained control over Greece, but lost the game because I became mired in debt to the point of no return. Anybody have any tips? I play on the normal settings with divine wind and I'm not using any addons. If you get into minor wars through alliances or whatnot, if you can extract even a few ducats it's quite useful since your trading sliders are terrible. Having a Master of the Mint around to help minimize inflation from minting is super important too. In those situations I also try to get Military Drill quickly then focus on land tech to maintain some kind of equilibrium against superior numbers. You just don't have the sliders to try to focus on economic or tech ideas. Minor nations with bad sliders have to be really opportunistic, take every advantage to win wars against rivals and threats, absorb or vassalize other minor nations quickly and focus on building powerful military. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 08 2013 04:25 Caller wrote: oh hey, pskov here, the russian opm that teutonic order always gets a free conquest belli on Pffft. Bar. OPM, rich, productive province, links the northern half of Burgundy to the southern half (assuming the 1399 start etc), Burgundy has a free conquest causus belli. That's the nation I've had by far the most unpause into restart situations with. On the other hand, they're super fun to play, IMO, since if you can not die on the first day you're playing a monarchy in the HRE with probably the best sliders in the game. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11792 Posts
On February 08 2013 04:26 LuckoftheIrish wrote: If you get into minor wars through alliances or whatnot, if you can extract even a few ducats it's quite useful since your trading sliders are terrible. Having a Master of the Mint around to help minimize inflation from minting is super important too. In those situations I also try to get Military Drill quickly then focus on land tech to maintain some kind of equilibrium against superior numbers. You just don't have the sliders to try to focus on economic or tech ideas. Minor nations with bad sliders have to be really opportunistic, take every advantage to win wars against rivals and threats, absorb or vassalize other minor nations quickly and focus on building powerful military. A MoM is not cost effective on Transsylvania. For a MoM to be cost effective, you need to have a ratio of at least 1:1 of ducats/inflation, which means you need to have a monthly income of at least 10. Otherwise he does not pay for himself. Remember that the additionally minted money needs to exceed the amount you pay for the MoM. The main problem i have had with my TS starts so far is that i was unable to convince the GH to accept my tribute after they bordered me, and they either vassalised me or simply ate me. I think this is the most important thing you need to achieve. After you have done that, you can do the typical small nation stuff. Any ideas how to make the GH accept your tribute? | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
As for the GH, I'm wondering if it might be worth keeping the vassalization with Hungary for a while. Expand towards the GH so you have a buffer you can scorch when they send their doom stacks, maybe? And that should let you recruit their troop types for a while as well. It won't be cost-effective, but your problem is just gonna be living through the first 50 years. Edit: I don't think expanding towards them will work, actually. You won't have the money, and if they're focusing you you won't be able to hold that border province. I think keeping Hungary and scorching your way through the first incursion is the answer. Maybe. I'll try it out as soon as I have a chance. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 08 2013 04:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Pffft. Bar. OPM, rich, productive province, links the northern half of Burgundy to the southern half (assuming the 1399 start etc), Burgundy has a free conquest causus belli. That's the nation I've had by far the most unpause into restart situations with. On the other hand, they're super fun to play, IMO, since if you can not die on the first day you're playing a monarchy in the HRE with probably the best sliders in the game. yeahhhhhh pskov is russian orthodox and next to holy orders that have automatic cleansing of heresy casus belli AND eastern tech group AND shit sliders (well free trade is okish) AND nobody is around to kick the shit out of burgundy AND not hre | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 08 2013 05:42 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Doesn't change much, since Bar starts with 22,000 troops a maximum of two provinces away. It doesn't matter if Burgundy gets the shit kicked out of it, since you start with no alliances. You get DoW'd and annexed within the first month. Whatever happens to Burgundy after that doesn't matter since you're not around for it. wait you mean how like the teutons start with a doomstack next to your shit, nobody wants to fuck with them, and they almost always kill you (barring the one time i got super lucky on dice + attrition) | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On February 08 2013 04:45 Simberto wrote: A MoM is not cost effective on Transsylvania. For a MoM to be cost effective, you need to have a ratio of at least 1:1 of ducats/inflation, which means you need to have a monthly income of at least 10. Otherwise he does not pay for himself. Remember that the additionally minted money needs to exceed the amount you pay for the MoM. The main problem i have had with my TS starts so far is that i was unable to convince the GH to accept my tribute after they bordered me, and they either vassalised me or simply ate me. I think this is the most important thing you need to achieve. After you have done that, you can do the typical small nation stuff. Any ideas how to make the GH accept your tribute? What I have done so far with Transylvania is either kept playing vassal until Hungary concedes to the horde. Basically then the horde asks for them to remove me as a vassal without anything special required. What I then do is I attack wallachia to get a bit more manpower and money to spend. National bank idea to help mint money, and then hope to god that you still have some 1-2 state minors down in the greek territories that dont have too terrifying allies. Once you have independence then poland might want your arse, or Hungary. xD | ||
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Simberto
Germany11792 Posts
But the GH just sieges my stuff, fucks up hungary in the meantime, and either forces vassalisation on me or just consumes me. I guess i could try to continue after being their vassal, but i don't see a good way to achieve anything in that position. From my games from other parts of the world, the GH usually gets stopped once they reach Bohemia or Austria, eating half of Poland and Lithuania on the way, but that won't really help me. I guess i could attempt to waste some of their time and armies with scorched earth and maybe recapturing provinces by arriving just after their army leaves, and hope that they will agree to accept my tribute after a bit more of that. Once i am paying tribute to them i could start to build some semblance of a stabile empire by conquering/vassalising stuff opportunistically. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
The best way to deal with them seems like drawing as many nations into war with them as possible. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11792 Posts
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bK-
United States326 Posts
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
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Alicuza
2 Posts
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
Anyone have any luck running a PC version of EU3 on OSX Lion using something like Wine? I've tried installing both chronicles and the complete pack, and both versions it gets to the "Creating Checksum" stage of the loading screen and then crashes. | ||
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AA.spoon
Belgium331 Posts
I don't have the official game tough... (cracked DW 5.1) And thus can't post on PI forums. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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