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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 20 2011 03:29 GMT
#1701
On July 20 2011 10:23 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 09:21 Corvi wrote:
On July 20 2011 04:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 20 2011 04:04 DrBoo wrote:
On July 20 2011 03:31 Demoninja wrote:
On July 20 2011 03:09 Corvi wrote:
On July 19 2011 16:41 101toss wrote:
On July 19 2011 16:32 _PulSe_ wrote:
I don't know what it is but i decided i would play Ken tonight instead of rog and went 25-1 pretty good record if you ask me. I don't know though if this game has a lesser skill option to match people up but that's what i felt it was on all night for me.

People can search for "more skilled"

You obviously won because you played ken (you lost to a yun amirite?), or more likely, are playing on pc where all the noobs are (real gamers use xbawks)


yea, pc gamers are well known for being more casual and less skilled than console gamers.


In regards to fighting games yes this is absolutely correct.


Except that a lot of pro players are starting to look at AE on PC and starting to play and or switch over.
Mostly due to the fact that AE on PC is as close to Arcade perfect as release of the game. (due to arcade machines running the game on windows xp platform)

I know that TS Sabin and Floe and Marn, and I think even Diago regularly play on PC


Floe plays? I know Seedogpoo does and he's super good. What's Floe's GFWL ID? This is also the first I've heard of Daigo playing on PC, can't see why he would do that when he prefers going to arcades.


as if any of you would play such players ... there are enough decent players on pc, and thats the important part. who cares if the ultra pros arent ...


Uh I already played Sabin and Marn who are 2 of the US's top players and I posted videos of those games in this thread. To say "as if any of you would play such players" is pretty insulting.

I played daigo once in ssf4 when I was in china on xbl (I got raped obvi)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 20 2011 03:30 GMT
#1702
On July 20 2011 12:28 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:19 O-ops wrote:
On July 20 2011 11:55 Demoninja wrote:
So Latif and Mr.SNK gave up their SBO spot to Mike Ross and Filipino Champ. I think I approve of this.


Thank god Mr.ShitNKarried isn't repping America. I wanted Latif to go though. Dude was beast.

On the other hand I'm worried about FChamp. I have no doubt in his skills, but his professionalism is.... questionable.


On another note, Japan has about a billion Yun/Yang players, and we've seen how Dhalsim performs against them =/


Let's see if FChamp could come up with any new technologies

And from that set against Daigo he weren't doing too bad considering we have no good Yun to practice with at the time. Every set went down the wire.
Fan of the Jangbanger
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 03:36:35
July 20 2011 03:32 GMT
#1703
On July 20 2011 12:27 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:23 sung_moon wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:19 O-ops wrote:
On July 20 2011 11:55 Demoninja wrote:
So Latif and Mr.SNK gave up their SBO spot to Mike Ross and Filipino Champ. I think I approve of this.


Thank god Mr.ShitNKarried isn't repping America. I wanted Latif to go though. Dude was beast.

On the other hand I'm worried about FChamp. I have no doubt in his skills, but his professionalism is.... questionable.


because professionalism is whats gonna decide if they can even make it past first round

and honestly from the sbo footage i've seen, japs themselves get pretty fuckin rowdy/hype/bm(?) on the stage/mic. need to see more subs of the interviews, but i hear its pretty hilarious


I saw a few translated vids of what ppl said on sbo stages in 3rd strike, and if it was meant to be hype then they suck at it bad. Heck, top Japanese players who came here said we got more way more hype in major than they do in top sbo matches.

It does look more hype with the setups they have tho.




all the hype is in the after party yo
On July 20 2011 12:27 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Properly timed LK tatsu on their wakeup is a good tool because it beats crouchtechs and throws and even backdashes and some reversals like Hawk EX DP, Bison EX Psycho, beats any counter move (Juri taunt, Gouken parry, Fei/Cammy U2), and is 0 on block. You can cl.hp xx LK tatsu from there which will beat jump-aways and the slower jabs, I've seen Uryo do it but I think it loses to throw since you're both at neutral (and throw and cl.hp are both 3f). Then after that second LK tatsu is blocked he'll usually s.lp c.hp as a frametrap, and the distance works such that s.lp will stuff and outrange most throws.

I invented (haven't seen any other players use it anyway) a sorta handy frametrap that works against crouchtech mashers, which is c.mk xx LK tatsu. The LK tatsu hits late enough such that if it connects you can combo c.mk xx HP sho (distance dependent, but you can combo at any distance if the tatsu lands on counterhit).

Some more sorta handy frametraps: c.lp c.hp, c.lp c.mp, c.lp c.mk, s.lp c.hp (whiffs on some characters), s.lp c.mp, s.lp c.mk, cl.mp c.mp, cl.mp c.mk.


mmmm sounds pretty good. its like after max range ch lk tatsu, i do like s.FP tatsu, s.lk HP sho/ex hurricane kick, although i've seen ppl do cl.mk(?) tatsu x2, s.jab c.mk HP sho or something. and what would be the optimal followup after a ex sho. not sure if its the online or i'm canceling at the wrong amount of hits, but can never get that fadc dash forward s.FP to nail :/

also a bummer when i do the "stay out of footsies range whiff punish" c.mk HP sho and the sho is too far away :/
Forever Young
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 20 2011 03:32 GMT
#1704
There is no new technology, even Champ is screwed against Yuns. Mike will be fine, contrary to his beliefs Honda isn't 3-7 against everyone, and does just fine against Yun if you hold down back instead of being an idiot.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 20 2011 03:33 GMT
#1705
On July 20 2011 12:32 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:27 O-ops wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:23 sung_moon wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:19 O-ops wrote:
On July 20 2011 11:55 Demoninja wrote:
So Latif and Mr.SNK gave up their SBO spot to Mike Ross and Filipino Champ. I think I approve of this.


Thank god Mr.ShitNKarried isn't repping America. I wanted Latif to go though. Dude was beast.

On the other hand I'm worried about FChamp. I have no doubt in his skills, but his professionalism is.... questionable.


because professionalism is whats gonna decide if they can even make it past first round

and honestly from the sbo footage i've seen, japs themselves get pretty fuckin rowdy/hype/bm(?) on the stage/mic. need to see more subs of the interviews, but i hear its pretty hilarious


I saw a few translated vids of what ppl said on sbo stages in 3rd strike, and if it was meant to be hype then they suck at it bad. Heck, top Japanese players who came here said we got more way more hype in major than they do in top sbo matches.

It does look more hype with the setups they have tho.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-uht5FnP8&feature=related

all the hype is in the after party yo


LOL @ Flash just standing there like WTF?

And what was he there for? Third Strike? Guilty Gear?
Fan of the Jangbanger
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 20 2011 03:38 GMT
#1706
On July 20 2011 12:32 Zlasher wrote:
There is no new technology, even Champ is screwed against Yuns. Mike will be fine, contrary to his beliefs Honda isn't 3-7 against everyone, and does just fine against Yun if you hold down back instead of being an idiot.


I thought he believes Honda is 2-8 against everyone.

And Mike holding downback? He'll get bored and crack!
Fan of the Jangbanger
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 20 2011 03:44 GMT
#1707
On July 20 2011 12:38 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:32 Zlasher wrote:
There is no new technology, even Champ is screwed against Yuns. Mike will be fine, contrary to his beliefs Honda isn't 3-7 against everyone, and does just fine against Yun if you hold down back instead of being an idiot.


I thought he believes Honda is 2-8 against everyone.

And Mike holding downback? He'll get bored and crack!

Mike should go grappler Honda instead
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 20 2011 04:01 GMT
#1708
Win SBO with only oicho throws
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 20 2011 05:44 GMT
#1709
On July 20 2011 12:19 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 11:55 Demoninja wrote:
So Latif and Mr.SNK gave up their SBO spot to Mike Ross and Filipino Champ. I think I approve of this.


Thank god Mr.ShitNKarried isn't repping America. I wanted Latif to go though. Dude was beast.

On the other hand I'm worried about FChamp. I have no doubt in his skills, but his professionalism is.... questionable.

Latif isn't even American, so it is how it's supposed to be.

And someone like FChamp representing you, it fits.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#1710
Damn, them's harsh words. A qualifier is a qualifier IMHO. The location is just for the convenience of the local players. I don't care who's representing what other than the players themselves.

Justin/Marn (or whoever it was) taking Euro SBO quals in the past, Kanto area Japanese killers going out into the boonies to qualify--that's all cool to me.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 20 2011 08:46 GMT
#1711
FChamp is Filipino and from Norcal, it definitely fits ;o haha
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Toolshed
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
337 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 09:21:19
July 20 2011 09:19 GMT
#1712
Who won the Euro SBO qualifiers this year?



Also to come back to Yun's imbalance ( 8-] ) there is a new YT video of daigo going for a 45 win streak.



first 19 matches are missing but you get 1 hour of daigo in action. Video quality is not that good though.

I can't believe how fast he builds meter. It's like he can do 4 ex moves per round and still have enough left to go for super :/ also what's up with daigo's unhuman reactions, his games are so flawless and unpredictable, must be a pain to be his opponent.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
July 20 2011 12:33 GMT
#1713
Does anyone know if the 360 version (or the PS3 version) of the madcatz SFIV controllers work on the pc?
Pokemon Master
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 20 2011 12:36 GMT
#1714
The 360 one should work no problem, the PS3 one might be a bit more tricky but still works I think.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
cccalf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
July 20 2011 12:43 GMT
#1715
On July 20 2011 12:33 O-ops wrote:

LOL @ Flash just standing there like WTF?

And what was he there for? Third Strike? Guilty Gear?


He was there for GG, Flash doesn't really play much 3s. That was the year where the world got to see his "tilt chin down and look at the stick as if it did something wrong" expression.
naOspt
Profile Joined December 2010
Portugal6 Posts
July 20 2011 13:36 GMT
#1716
Question, do you need the original SF4 to play SSF4AE online or can you just buy SSF4AE and play ?
dont be a coconut
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 13:38:35
July 20 2011 13:37 GMT
#1717
On July 20 2011 21:36 FliedLice wrote:
The 360 one should work no problem, the PS3 one might be a bit more tricky but still works I think.


Thanks for the reply, I've been looking for a fighting stick but quickly noticed the prices and was like "errr, no thanks" and then heard those pads were also quite good. now I have the 360 controller and it's really frustrating with a d-pad that inaccurate.

On July 20 2011 22:36 naOspt wrote:
Question, do you need the original SF4 to play SSF4AE online or can you just buy SSF4AE and play ?


If it's the pc version, just purchase SSF4AE it's not an expansion or dlc for SFIV. It's a standalone game.
Pokemon Master
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 13:50:35
July 20 2011 13:50 GMT
#1718
On July 20 2011 22:37 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:36 FliedLice wrote:
The 360 one should work no problem, the PS3 one might be a bit more tricky but still works I think.


Thanks for the reply, I've been looking for a fighting stick but quickly noticed the prices and was like "errr, no thanks" and then heard those pads were also quite good. now I have the 360 controller and it's really frustrating with a d-pad that inaccurate.


You could still try the Tatsunoko vs Capcom stick for the Wii.

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/NintendoWii79pg9wuyf/Tatsunoko_vs_Capcom_Arcade_Fightstick

It's only 15£

and paired with a proper adapter (http://mayflash.com/pc/pc045/pc045.htm) it works perfectly on my PC.
can't find a shop for the adapter atm, i got it for 15€ from amazon.de

so you should end up with maybe 30-40€ for a fightstick that's basically the same as the 80€ SF4 fightsticks for 360/ps3
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ChronoCat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
266 Posts
July 20 2011 16:00 GMT
#1719
Holy crap I'm enjoying this game so much, just about a week in and I'm already at over 300 games played! (which to me is quite a bit, not to mention the hours I've spent in training mode and trials). I have a horrible 28% winrate but I learn so much against players who just destroy me that I kind of almost WANT to lose. I've been improving pretty rapidly in this short time though I know I have a looooong way to go to become a decent player.

I've just recently become a little demotivated by the fact that I'm probably causing everyone I'm playing against to play at a crappy framerate, though only like 2 people have complained so far. I have a pretty crappy laptop. Basically I bought the game with the assumption that it'd run as good as vanilla did (at lowest settings in vanilla I get about 100 FPS) but I only get 45-50 at best in AE on lowest settings (B grade). I don't mind playing it at this FPS really... I can't be too picky when PC AE is the only version I can play and this crappy laptop is the only machine I have to play it on. However, I was under the assumption that playing on fixed framerate (which is the mode everyone plays on) would only affect the framerate on my end, and my opponent who can maintain 60 FPS will play at 60 FPS. Am I wrong? How does the interaction between A grade and lower grade PCs work online?

TL;DR - Has anyone with an A grade PC tried playing against people with B and lower grade PCs online? Was the match noticeably laggier/at a lower framerate?

I'd appreciate an answer on this one since it'd be a pretty big bummer if I'm causing all my opponents to play at a lower framerate... My wins would mean a lot less. Though it's probably not gonna stop me from playing lol
JSHC
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden29 Posts
July 20 2011 16:13 GMT
#1720
On July 21 2011 01:00 ChronoCat wrote:
TL;DR - Has anyone with an A grade PC tried playing against people with B and lower grade PCs online? Was the match noticeably laggier/at a lower framerate?

I'd appreciate an answer on this one since it'd be a pretty big bummer if I'm causing all my opponents to play at a lower framerate... My wins would mean a lot less. Though it's probably not gonna stop me from playing lol

I've only played against people with a lower grade PC when they're hosting and I only noticed when their framerate dropped. I'm not really sure if it makes a difference if the player with the lower grade PC is hosting or not though. That said, I've only noticed it when their framerate drops and not really if or when they have a steady, but lower, framerate. If you're EU I wouldn't mind testing it further.
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