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MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
January 09 2012 13:36 GMT
#3761
btw, d,df,f,uf is considered a tiger knee motion (the old way of doing Sagat's tiger knee). It's also really helpful to throw fireballs (and kunais? don't know the specific timing) the moment you get off the ground for an instant air-fireball.

Silent, what stick are you using?
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LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
January 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#3762
I would like to play on my PC. I have an 360 Controller here. Its pretty good. Is an Arcade Stick so important?

And the pros in this scene..do they play on PC or console?
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
January 09 2012 13:57 GMT
#3763
To answer your arcade stick question, yes, an arcade stick is pretty essential if you want to play street fighter. Not that a 360 controller can't work, an arcade stick is easier to use and has many more advantages and techniques that can't be executed on a controller.

Not sure whether the pros play more on PC or console, hope this helps!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
January 09 2012 13:59 GMT
#3764
On January 09 2012 22:42 LayZRR wrote:
I would like to play on my PC. I have an 360 Controller here. Its pretty good. Is an Arcade Stick so important?

And the pros in this scene..do they play on PC or console?


There are pros who play on a pad. Use whatever is comfortable for you.

Console, it's always console.
LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 14:07:04
January 09 2012 14:06 GMT
#3765
yeah i will try my luck with my 360 controller. hope there are enough people playing on pc for some online-games.
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 15:22:23
January 09 2012 15:15 GMT
#3766
On January 09 2012 22:36 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
btw, d,df,f,uf is considered a tiger knee motion (the old way of doing Sagat's tiger knee). It's also really helpful to throw fireballs (and kunais? don't know the specific timing) the moment you get off the ground for an instant air-fireball.

Silent, what stick are you using?

I am using a cheap crappy kontorland stick (bought 15$ a year ago).

I think my exectuion problems come from that stick.When I try to do qcf motion I always get a db inside.Especially when my fighter is on left side.It s hard to explain...Stick is not well balanced.Right side of stick registers better then left side.When i do qcf left to right i need to move it a little down to forward but when i try other side I need to do big slow hadoken motion.

I want to buy madcatz sf4 TE stick or madcatz WWE Allstars stick.Second stick is a lot cheaper ( around 60$) but When i read reviews most people dont seem to like it.I found a slightly used clean Madcatz SF4 TE stick around 120 $.I live in Turkey and There is no Madcatz seller in my country and cargo from europe costs a lot.I dont know which one to buy.
日本語が上手ですね
Incognitodies
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 18:12:49
January 09 2012 17:49 GMT
#3767
On January 10 2012 00:15 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 22:36 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
btw, d,df,f,uf is considered a tiger knee motion (the old way of doing Sagat's tiger knee). It's also really helpful to throw fireballs (and kunais? don't know the specific timing) the moment you get off the ground for an instant air-fireball.

Silent, what stick are you using?

I am using a cheap crappy kontorland stick (bought 15$ a year ago).

I think my exectuion problems come from that stick.When I try to do qcf motion I always get a db inside.Especially when my fighter is on left side.It s hard to explain...Stick is not well balanced.Right side of stick registers better then left side.When i do qcf left to right i need to move it a little down to forward but when i try other side I need to do big slow hadoken motion.

I want to buy madcatz sf4 TE stick or madcatz WWE Allstars stick.Second stick is a lot cheaper ( around 60$) but When i read reviews most people dont seem to like it.I found a slightly used clean Madcatz SF4 TE stick around 120 $.I live in Turkey and There is no Madcatz seller in my country and cargo from europe costs a lot.I dont know which one to buy.

I bought the WWE Allstars stick, works fine for me although I've never used a high end stick (and I guess I kinda suck at this game but that's another story). Also if you don't like the stick you can always buy a sanwa joystick separately and mod it in. I don't really think it's worth forking out for a TE as a beginner, but it depends how seriously you want to take the game. Only complaint I have about the WWE stick is the artwork is fucking awful but I'm not looking at it when I play so who cares.

I'd also like to say that pad or stick is fine as long as you DONT use the standard xbox controller as the dpad on that thing is absolutely atrocious. Fanatiq uses an xbox pad but he put some mod or something on the d-pad because it needs it.
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
January 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#3768
On January 10 2012 02:49 Incognitodies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 00:15 Silentenigma wrote:
On January 09 2012 22:36 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
btw, d,df,f,uf is considered a tiger knee motion (the old way of doing Sagat's tiger knee). It's also really helpful to throw fireballs (and kunais? don't know the specific timing) the moment you get off the ground for an instant air-fireball.

Silent, what stick are you using?

I am using a cheap crappy kontorland stick (bought 15$ a year ago).

I think my exectuion problems come from that stick.When I try to do qcf motion I always get a db inside.Especially when my fighter is on left side.It s hard to explain...Stick is not well balanced.Right side of stick registers better then left side.When i do qcf left to right i need to move it a little down to forward but when i try other side I need to do big slow hadoken motion.

I want to buy madcatz sf4 TE stick or madcatz WWE Allstars stick.Second stick is a lot cheaper ( around 60$) but When i read reviews most people dont seem to like it.I found a slightly used clean Madcatz SF4 TE stick around 120 $.I live in Turkey and There is no Madcatz seller in my country and cargo from europe costs a lot.I dont know which one to buy.

I bought the WWE Allstars stick, works fine for me although I've never used a high end stick (and I guess I kinda suck at this game but that's another story). Also if you don't like the stick you can always buy a sanwa joystick separately and mod it in. I don't really think it's worth forking out for a TE as a beginner, but it depends how seriously you want to take the game. Only complaint I have about the WWE stick is the artwork is fucking awful but I'm not looking at it when I play so who cares.

I'd also like to say that pad or stick is fine as long as you DONT use the standard xbox controller as the dpad on that thing is absolutely atrocious. Fanatiq uses an xbox pad but he put some mod or something on the d-pad because it needs it.


I remember there's a mod for the original 360 pad, but what about the new one? (with the twisting dpad). I'm sure he was using that.
Aiyeeeee
Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
January 10 2012 03:40 GMT
#3769
I want to be Desk

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dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
January 10 2012 04:01 GMT
#3770
That Chun Li combo...
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
January 10 2012 19:25 GMT
#3771
Some uk street fighter action, stream link.
Team NSHoseo <3
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 19:42:32
January 10 2012 19:41 GMT
#3772
Sorry but having a stick isn't going to help you any better, in both cases you're just training yourself to get use to a type of controller. I use normal XBOX dpad and rock with it, same as I have since playing SFAlpha on PS. The only difference is if you play at home and in an arcade, then a stick makes sense. If you get a psychological confidence boost from the stick as opposed to the controller, then that's a consideration for buying one, but is it really worth $150?
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
January 11 2012 02:54 GMT
#3773
I was playing at work during lunch as usual and one guy brought in his custom-design HitBox. I didn't get to mess around with it but he used it pretty effectively. A couple of other guys tried it out and had a pretty tough time, and one guy (who mains Hakan) couldn't execute a 360 at all.

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This is just from a Google image search, not the actual stick but the proportions are the same.

I've always thought HitBox style sticks would come with a lot of inherent advantages if you could just get enough practice with them to master the inputs. Being able to input multiple directions at a time is pretty sweet, for example doing a charge ultra with (hold back) tap forward twice + PPP or being able to hold forward while inputting other directions to make Sagat's kara inputs easier. I'd imagine the learning curve would be pretty brutal and it would take probably a week or so to master, but those are some pretty sick things you can do.
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MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
January 11 2012 06:06 GMT
#3774
I used to play on the keyboard when i first started out (third strike on a cps3 emulator). If you actually think about the motions you need to do (qcf = d,df,f. dp = f,d,df. etc). and just try it out, the input motion it's incredibly easy. Same applies to this style of stick.

The only obstacle imho is the up button. I think getting used to that with your thumbs is going to be a bitch.

other then that, always wanted to try one.
Aiyeeeee
nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 21:28:14
January 11 2012 21:26 GMT
#3775
On January 11 2012 15:06 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
I used to play on the keyboard when i first started out (third strike on a cps3 emulator). If you actually think about the motions you need to do (qcf = d,df,f. dp = f,d,df. etc). and just try it out, the input motion it's incredibly easy. Same applies to this style of stick.

The only obstacle imho is the up button. I think getting used to that with your thumbs is going to be a bitch.

other then that, always wanted to try one.


I tried one out at Devastation and the guy promoting them suggested that using your right thumb for the UP direction was much easier. I only message around with if for a couple rounds but I agree with Excalibur, with practice these could be far superior to traditional sticks. So many cool things you can do with them.
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
January 11 2012 22:17 GMT
#3776
On January 10 2012 00:15 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 22:36 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
btw, d,df,f,uf is considered a tiger knee motion (the old way of doing Sagat's tiger knee). It's also really helpful to throw fireballs (and kunais? don't know the specific timing) the moment you get off the ground for an instant air-fireball.

Silent, what stick are you using?

I am using a cheap crappy kontorland stick (bought 15$ a year ago).

I think my exectuion problems come from that stick.When I try to do qcf motion I always get a db inside.Especially when my fighter is on left side.It s hard to explain...Stick is not well balanced.Right side of stick registers better then left side.When i do qcf left to right i need to move it a little down to forward but when i try other side I need to do big slow hadoken motion.

I want to buy madcatz sf4 TE stick or madcatz WWE Allstars stick.Second stick is a lot cheaper ( around 60$) but When i read reviews most people dont seem to like it.I found a slightly used clean Madcatz SF4 TE stick around 120 $.I live in Turkey and There is no Madcatz seller in my country and cargo from europe costs a lot.I dont know which one to buy.


I bought a WWE Allstars stick this summer, the stick is already quite loose and the X button (jab) only works half the time now... Got a TE for christmas and it really feels more robust and the stick feels better too. If you can't get a MadCatz, try looking for alternatives, such as Hori, especialy online since the Hori sticks tend to be cheaper. There's also Eightarc and Quanba that do high quality stick that are dual moded..
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
January 12 2012 03:23 GMT
#3777
big two live with AE now, teamspooky stream.
Team NSHoseo <3
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
January 12 2012 03:37 GMT
#3778
On January 12 2012 12:23 Azuroz wrote:
big two live with AE now, teamspooky stream.


cool watching now
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
January 12 2012 07:08 GMT
#3779
I missed AE but I caught the end of Grand Finals MvC3. Without derailing the thread too much, is rushdown dead in East Coast play? That's the second Big Two I've seen where Dieminion is just zowning (owning with zoning).
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Gyabo
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States329 Posts
January 12 2012 10:18 GMT
#3780
I think it's just Dieminion emerging as one of the top Marvel players in east coast. The rest of them still play a good amount of rushdown, or at least a footsie based style.

Speaking of Marvel, I feel like Juri with Feng Shui Engine is pretty much a Marvel character now. With that improved dash, she can lock you down by throwing a fireball at mid range and dash forward for a free mixup. And even her overhead can lead into a magic series combo. It's like she turns into Zero, a mixup machine who can store fireballs.
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